[Bug 52670] Re: Kubuntu setting default components don't affect gnome/gtk apps

For the record, to have hardy's Thunderbird open http links in Opera, I had to change "/desktop/gnome/url-handlers/http/command" (and the corresponding "https" setting), despite this being Kubuntu. Gconf-editor wasn't even installed. x-www-browser didn't have any effect. -- Kubuntu setting defau

[Bug 52670] Re: Kubuntu setting default components don't affect gnome/gtk apps

Thinking about it, I realize that this might "change the meaning" of what the x-www-browser alternative specifies. Its behaviour currently you could describe as, "the preferred browser," whereas with my proposed change it would be, "the default (overridable) preferred browser." Because this isn't r

[Bug 52670] Re: Kubuntu setting default components don't affect gnome/gtk apps

Is anything wrong with this solution?: Change the x-www-browser script to first check if the $BROWSER environment variable is set. If it is set, use the browser it says. If not, use the browser specified by debian-alternatives. Then update kcontrol to also change $BROWSER. Because environment var

[Bug 52670] Re: Kubuntu setting default components don't affect gnome/gtk apps

@manu Yes, that's exactly what I meant. :) This could be fixed upstream if Firefox and Thunderbird would check if the environment variable KDE_FULL_SESSION is set to "true" and that DESKTOP_SESSION is set to "kde", then use kfmclient and kmailservice. I'll go check the Mozilla bug tracker. -- K

[Bug 52670] Re: Kubuntu setting default components don't affect gnome/gtk apps

@Amy OK. I did not understand that you were talking there about modifying the alternatives for x-www-browser since in your previous comments you were talking about modifying thunderbird and firefox through about:config. So you mean that instead of Konqueror being an alternative for x-www- browser

[Bug 52670] Re: Kubuntu setting default components don't affect gnome/gtk apps

@manu Are you even paying attention to what I said? I'm talking about making this an alternative for /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser Konqueror's an alternative for that when you have KDE installed, but it won't even be an option if it's not installed. Similarly, you'd see the kfmclient- based thi

[Bug 52670] Re: Kubuntu setting default components don't affect gnome/gtk apps

@Amy You would still need different packages for Kubuntu and Ubuntu since kfmclient is not available in GNOME. I wonder how GNOME is implementing this. (Or for that matter, how OpenSUSE or Fedore implement this in their KDE desktops). -- Kubuntu setting default components don't affect gnome/gtk

[Bug 52670] Re: Kubuntu setting default components don't affect gnome/gtk apps

I just mentioned this as a workaround. A better solution is to provide a script that calls "kfmclient openURL" as an alternative to x-www- browser, and make that script the default in Kubuntu, I think. -- Kubuntu setting default components don't affect gnome/gtk apps https://bugs.launchpad.net/bu

[Bug 52670] Re: Kubuntu setting default components don't affect gnome/gtk apps

@Amy You implemented option (1) that I described in comment #10 above. It is a nice solution. However, it is not portable at all. In order to implement it as a real fix, Kubuntu would need packages for thunderbird and firefox different from those from Ubuntu. Also, it will break the update-alterna

[Bug 52670] Re: Kubuntu setting default components don't affect gnome/gtk apps

Oh and if you're paranoid, you can substitute "openURL" for "exec" in the small script. -- Kubuntu setting default components don't affect gnome/gtk apps https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/52670 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Team, which is a direct subscriber

[Bug 52670] Re: Kubuntu setting default components don't affect gnome/gtk apps

oops, that should be /usr/local/bin/kfmclientexec under Thunderbird. Sorry, my bad. -- Kubuntu setting default components don't affect gnome/gtk apps https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/52670 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubun

[Bug 52670] Re: Kubuntu setting default components don't affect gnome/gtk apps

I have a workaround to make Thunderbird and Firefox use KDE's settings. First, create a script called /usr/local/bin/kfmclientexec that contains these two lines only: #!/bin/sh kfmclient exec "$*" Save and make it executable (+x). Next, in Firefox, go to about:config and create or edit a string

[Bug 52670] Re: Kubuntu setting default components don't affect gnome/gtk apps

Over a year later, bug is still unresolved (ubuntu 7.04), and users (me) still find it annoying enough to google for a solution... -- Kubuntu setting default components don't affect gnome/gtk apps https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/52670 You received this bug notification because you are a member of

[Bug 52670] Re: Kubuntu setting default components don't affect gnome/gtk apps

I realize that x-www-browser is set by update-alternatives system wide, but what about modifying x-www-browser it so it first looks for the users preference (it checks if $BROWSER exists first)? After all, setting x-www-browser really just lets the administrator say what browser should be default,

[Bug 52670] Re: Kubuntu setting default components don't affect gnome/gtk apps

Something should check when KDE sets variables and set the equivalent for Gnome configurations in case a gnome app is installed and should use the same defaults. But this is not really the job of this bug. ** Changed in: kdebase (Ubuntu) Sourcepackagename: kde-systemsettings => kdebase Stat

[Bug 52670] Re: Kubuntu setting default components don't affect gnome/gtk apps

Check my comments below, thunderbird should check for user set variables for the browser instead of calling directly x-www-browser ** Changed in: thunderbird (Ubuntu) Status: Invalid => Confirmed -- Kubuntu setting default components don't affect gnome/gtk apps https://bugs.launchpad.net/

[Bug 52670] Re: Kubuntu setting default components don't affect gnome/gtk apps

Ok, I did some analysis of what happens when you set defaults in kde default applications. As I mentioned above this has nothing to do with kde systemsettings which is just a cute view of kcontrol meant for kubuntu. When you select another default application for email/browsing etc. kcontrol (wh

[Bug 52670] Re: Kubuntu setting default components don't affect gnome/gtk apps

** Description changed: Binary package hint: kubuntu-desktop I´ve installed firefox and set it up as my default web browser in the system settings. But when I click on a link in Thunderbird, Konqueror is still opened. Thunderbird should use the web browser set as default in "kde compo

[Bug 52670] Re: Kubuntu setting default components don't affect gnome/gtk apps

not currently. I believe Cimmo was looking into it. -- Kubuntu setting default components don't affect gnome/gtk apps https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/52670 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Team, which is a direct subscriber. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list [E

[Bug 52670] Re: Kubuntu setting default components don't affect gnome/gtk apps

Is this bug being worked on? -It's hard to tell from the above comments/statusinfo. -- Kubuntu setting default components don't affect gnome/gtk apps https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/52670 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubun

[Bug 52670] Re: Kubuntu setting default components don't affect gnome/gtk apps

joseph I have only rejected against thunderbird because I don't really think that fixing thunderbird will affects openoffice and all gtk programs see: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/52670 -- Kubuntu setting default components don't affect gnome/gtk apps https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/52

[Bug 52670] Re: Kubuntu setting default components don't affect gnome/gtk apps

Regardless of whether the bug is rooted in thunderbird or another component of Kubuntu, why was it rejected? It most definitely exists. Or is it only rejected under thunderbird or something? I can't tell from the description at the status table at the top. -- Kubuntu setting default components do

[Bug 52670] Re: Kubuntu setting default components don't affect gnome/gtk apps

Sarah I have asked a lot of time that someone help me understand how all rules for debdiff should be applied and how to make debian packages, none has the time to teach me. Of course I cannot put debdiff that has wrong version number, wrong changelog, wrong... etc. Also some people here _are_ p

[Bug 52670] Re: Kubuntu setting default components don't affect gnome/gtk apps

Thanks for your bug report. To maintain a respectful atmosphere, please follow the code of conduct. Bug reports are handled by humans, so please bear this in mind. Most of the time, the humans arent paid to work on ubuntu either. Feel free to provide a p

[Bug 52670] Re: Kubuntu setting default components don't affect gnome/gtk apps

** Changed in: thunderbird (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed => Rejected -- Kubuntu setting default components don't affect gnome/gtk apps https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/52670 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ub

[Bug 52670] Re: Kubuntu setting default components don't affect gnome/gtk apps

I agree with Cimmo. I use differend distro at the moment, with KDE. This isnt issue in this distro. With Kubuntu it was. -- Kubuntu setting default components don't affect gnome/gtk apps https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/52670 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bu

[Bug 52670] Re: Kubuntu setting default components don't affect gnome/gtk apps

I really cannot understand why giving the ball to wrong people! This is NOT a thunderbird bug, or a gtk bug or whatever! This is a KUBUNTU specific bug or kde anyway, that doesn't set correctly defaults. Also openoffice impress has the same problem, also if I set in system settings to firefox th

[Bug 52670] Re: Kubuntu setting default components don't affect gnome/gtk apps

Assigned to Mozilla Team ** Changed in: thunderbird (Ubuntu) Sourcepackagename: mozilla-thunderbird => thunderbird Assignee: (unassigned) => Mozilla Bugs -- Kubuntu setting default components don't affect gnome/gtk apps https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/52670 You received this bug notificatio

[Bug 52670] Re: Kubuntu setting default components don't affect gnome/gtk apps

>From an end-user POV, this definitely lands in the bug category (it just bit me today when I finally migrated my main email & RSS PC over to Edgy from XP - blog links in Thunderbird's RSS reader insisted on opening in Konqueror instead of in Firefox, even though I had already changed my browser pr

[Bug 52670] Re: Kubuntu setting default components don't affect gnome/gtk apps

I think the solution should be to change x-www-browser to kfmclient openURL on Kubuntu. This is certainly not a thunderbird bug, I think it's a kubuntu-default- settings bug. -- Kubuntu setting default components don't affect gnome/gtk apps https://launchpad.net/bugs/52670 -- kubuntu-bugs mail

[Bug 52670] Re: Kubuntu setting default components don't affect gnome/gtk apps

P.S. This shouldn't be wishlist. It's a bug. -- Kubuntu setting default components don't affect gnome/gtk apps https://launchpad.net/bugs/52670 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs

[Bug 52670] Re: Kubuntu setting default components don't affect gnome/gtk apps

Then, gconf would need to be installed in KDE and KDE needs to understand and track gconf API and all applications that are not KDE and not Gnome apps like Firefox, Thunderbird and OpenOffice would have to understand and track gconf API as well. I hope you can prove me wrong but I think that scena

[Bug 52670] Re: Kubuntu setting default components don't affect gnome/gtk apps

I´d also like the solution above, so that firefox just uses gconf and the settings GUI also updates gconf. This could be applied to kde programs under ubuntu (with gnome) as well. Perhaps the user should be informed that this change will also be applied to the other desktop environment if instal

[Bug 52670] Re: Kubuntu setting default components don't affect gnome/gtk apps

I think we are overcomplicating this. Do all gnome apps only look at /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser? I find it hard to believe that Gnome has no way of setting a per-user preferred browser. If there is a way to set it, then kcontrol / guidance (whichever is responsible, I'm unsure) should simply b

[Bug 52670] Re: Kubuntu setting default components don't affect gnome/gtk apps

I don't think this is a problem in package mozilla-thunderbird. It might be better to assign it to kde-guidance, kcontrol or even the package that contains update-alternatives (I don't know which one it is). ** Summary changed: - Thunderbird (and other Gnome apps) use konqueror as web browser