Re: [Bug 272826] Re: "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors

2012-04-17 Thread Stas Sușcov
I like Ubuntista. În data de Tue, 17 Apr 2012 17:21:45 +0300, Neal McBurnett a scris: > ** Description changed: > > The term "Ubuntero", which is presumably of Spanish derivation, is only > applicable for male contributors. A female contributor should be > called > an Ubuntera, which

[Bug 272826] Re: "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors

2012-04-17 Thread Neal McBurnett
** Description changed: The term "Ubuntero", which is presumably of Spanish derivation, is only applicable for male contributors. A female contributor should be called an Ubuntera, which is impossible currently as a contributor is not asked his or her sex. I suggest introducing a que

[Bug 272826] Re: "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors

2009-07-25 Thread Matthew East
Matt, thanks for looking after the implementation of this. -- "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/272826 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bug

[Bug 272826] Re: "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors

2009-07-24 Thread Matt Zimmerman
Matt Nuzum notified me by mail that http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newmember no longer refers to the Ubuntero term, and I've confirmed that the change is live on the website now. If you come across stray references to this term in the wiki, please go ahead and fix them. That should be

[Bug 272826] Re: "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors

2009-07-22 Thread Curtis Hovey
Fixed released in Launchpad sinzui. ** Changed in: launchpad-registry Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released -- "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/272826 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subsc

[Bug 272826] Re: "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors

2009-07-17 Thread Barry Warsaw
I think I've updated all the references in the help wiki. ** Changed in: launchpad-registry Status: In Progress => Fix Committed -- "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/272826 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu

[Bug 272826] Re: "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors

2009-07-17 Thread Barry Warsaw
On the web UI we use Signed the Ubuntu Code of Conduct: Yes/No but internally (in the code base) we use a noun phrase to refer to the person who has signed the CoC, so "signer" vs "signee" turns out to be more of an implementation detail. The branch to fix this will be in review today and I'll t

[Bug 272826] Re: "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors

2009-07-17 Thread Matt Zimmerman
Matt Nuzum agreed to make this change for us on the website. Daniel Holbach indicated it would be appropriate to just remove this paragraph from the page, because it already explains the Code of Conduct generally. Thanks, Matt! ** Changed in: ubuntu-website Importance: Undecided => Medium **

Re: [Bug 272826] Re: "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors

2009-07-16 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 10:30:55PM -, Barry Warsaw wrote: > "signer" it is! Why does it need to be a noun phrase? Why not "Has signed the Ubuntu Code of Conduct? Yes/No" or similar? -- - mdz -- "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/272826 You re

[Bug 272826] Re: "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors

2009-07-16 Thread Barry Warsaw
"signer" it is! -- "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/272826 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com

Re: [Bug 272826] Re: "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors

2009-07-16 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 08:24:38PM -, Barry Warsaw wrote: > So, one thing that's nice about the term "Ubuntero" is that it's much > shorter than "Ubuntu Code-of-Conduct signee" :). I'd prefer "signer" or possibly even "signatory", not "signee" - otherwise that sounds "somebody who's been signe

[Bug 272826] Re: "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors

2009-07-16 Thread Barry Warsaw
So, one thing that's nice about the term "Ubuntero" is that it's much shorter than "Ubuntu Code-of-Conduct signee" :). That's the best phrase I've come up with to replace "Ubuntero". If you have any alternative suggestions, please let me know, otherwise I'm going with that. -- "Ubuntero" inappr

Re: [Bug 272826] Re: "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors

2009-07-16 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 04:22:16PM -, Barry Warsaw wrote: > Correct. Matt Revell is probably the right person, but I'll take a look > after the Launchpad part of the task is complete. I've subscribed Matt > to this bug. Thanks a lot, Barry. -- - mdz -- "Ubuntero" inappropriate for femal

[Bug 272826] Re: "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors

2009-07-16 Thread Barry Warsaw
Correct. Matt Revell is probably the right person, but I'll take a look after the Launchpad part of the task is complete. I've subscribed Matt to this bug. -- "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/272826 You received this bug notification because you a

Re: [Bug 272826] Re: "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors

2009-07-16 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 03:42:27PM -, Barry Warsaw wrote: > Also note that the dev wiki has a few occurrences of the term > "ubuntero": > > https://help.launchpad.net/HelpOnActions?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=ubuntero Who could help to clean that up? I assume that wiki is not open ac

[Bug 272826] Re: "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors

2009-07-16 Thread Barry Warsaw
** Changed in: launchpad-registry Status: Triaged => In Progress ** Changed in: launchpad-registry Milestone: 2.2.9 => 2.2.7 ** Changed in: launchpad-registry Assignee: (unassigned) => Barry Warsaw (barry) -- "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors https://bugs.launchpa

[Bug 272826] Re: "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors

2009-07-16 Thread Barry Warsaw
Also note that the dev wiki has a few occurrences of the term "ubuntero": https://help.launchpad.net/HelpOnActions?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=ubuntero -- "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/272826 You received this bug notification because yo

Re: [Bug 272826] Re: "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors

2009-07-15 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 01:42:07AM -, Curtis Hovey wrote: > I think I can promise the initial change will be visible on edge within > 2 weeks. Thanks a lot, Curtis, I appreciate it. -- - mdz -- "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/272826 You rec

[Bug 272826] Re: "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors

2009-07-15 Thread Curtis Hovey
I think I can promise the initial change will be visible on edge within 2 weeks. -- "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/272826 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs m

[Bug 272826] Re: "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors

2009-07-15 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 10:44:09PM -, Curtis Hovey wrote: > It is not just UI. This will be fixed with the redesign of the profile > page which will be released in 2.2.9 at the latest. Thanks for the update. I can understand if you want the UI to be consistent with any other uses of the term.

[Bug 272826] Re: "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors

2009-07-15 Thread Curtis Hovey
It is not just UI. This will be fixed with the redesign of the profile page which will be released in 2.2.9 at the latest. -- "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/272826 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which i

[Bug 272826] Re: "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors

2009-07-15 Thread Matt Zimmerman
This term still seems to be in use in Launchpad, e.g. at http://launchpad.net/~mdz as well as on http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newmember Would it help if I submitted a patch for the Launchpad side? It seems a trivial bug to fix, and the decision to change it was taken quite some time

[Bug 272826] Re: "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors

2009-03-10 Thread Daniel Holbach
Yes, but it's not completely fixed in all places yet. -- "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/272826 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lis

[Bug 272826] Re: "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors

2009-03-10 Thread Mike Basinger
I thought the CC decided to stop using the term Ubuntero. -- "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/272826 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs

[Bug 272826] Re: "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors

2009-03-09 Thread Daniel Holbach
http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newmember needs to replace "Ubuntero" with something else too. ** Also affects: ubuntu-website Importance: Undecided Status: New -- "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/272826 You received this bug no

[Bug 272826] Re: "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors

2009-01-03 Thread kauna
Hello, I'm Spanish and my native tonge is Spanish. In spanish language, the "-ero" ending can be also found in words as "granero " , "sonajero". that have a grammatical gender but, has a thing a true gender? Has a place a true gender ? .. And there is also a rule that stays that when yo

[Bug 272826] Re: "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors

2008-12-30 Thread Raphaël Pinson
Juste a side note, although the issue has been fixed... It has been considered that Ubuntero sounded Spanish. That's fine, but to me it also sounds like Esperanto, which is more of a neutral language and pretty wide-spread in open-source communities (you just have to see the translations made in th

[Bug 272826] Re: "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors

2008-12-29 Thread Matthew East
In as much as this bug required a policy decision from the Ubuntu project, that part of it is now resolved. I'll close the Ubuntu task and leave the Launchpad task open. ** Changed in: ubuntu Status: New => Fix Released -- "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors https://bugs.laun

[Bug 272826] Re: "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors

2008-12-24 Thread Daniel Holbach
The Community Council decided to drop the term from Launchpad and replace it with "User XYZ has signed the Code of Conduct." -- "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/272826 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which

[Bug 272826] Re: "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors

2008-12-23 Thread Tony Yarusso
I'm not particularly bothered by either form of the word itself, but I am strongly opposed to the idea of making (or even asking) people to declare their gender for two reasons. 1) That's not going to help the complicated issue of the overall relationship of women in FOSS groups that's already st

[Bug 272826] Re: "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors

2008-12-23 Thread Shirish Agarwal
Hi all, Found this bug a little too late I guess, Ubuntero somehow was internally synonymous to me to 'Zorro' . You know taking from rich and giving to the poor which ubuntu is doing in its own small way. My 2 paise stuff -- "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors https://bugs.laun

[Bug 272826] Re: "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors

2008-11-30 Thread EmmaJane
Update from the Community Council (via the announcement on the weekly newsletter https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue119#Community%20Council): At approximately 11:14UTC on November 18, 2008 it was decided the term Ubuntero would be removed from Launchpad. IRC logs are available

[Bug 272826] Re: "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors

2008-11-06 Thread Mike Basinger
+1, I will add this suggest to the next community council meeting, and hopefully we can get this settled. -- "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/272826 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to U

Re: [Bug 272826] Re: "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors

2008-11-06 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Me too - what a lovely word! But I think it would be better for us to be less mysterious, and just say what this actually means, which is that the person has signed the code of conduct. -- "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/272826 You received this b

[Bug 272826] Re: "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors

2008-11-06 Thread Mike Basinger
If that is true, I like the way onobuntu sounds. -- "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/272826 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ub

[Bug 272826] Re: "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors

2008-11-06 Thread Marius Kruger
I asked one of my Zulu colleagues (Sizwe Mabanga) and he said the word you are looking for is: onobuntu Which means "a person who has ubuntu". (it is not gender specific) -- "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/272826 You received this bug notificatio

[Bug 272826] Re: "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors

2008-09-30 Thread Diogo Matsubara
Moving to -registry as it's the project and team responsible for the fix, once the name is decided by the CC. ** Changed in: launchpad-registry Product: Launchpad itself => Launchpad Registry Importance: Undecided => Low Status: Confirmed => Triaged -- "Ubuntero" inappropriate fo

[Bug 272826] Re: "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors

2008-09-26 Thread BUGabundo
No Portuguese ppl here? strange... Well Portuguese language shares most of its roots as Spanish, so lets not make this Country centric. Unlike some here, I use the term Ubuntero a lot, when referring to Ubuntu users (no mater what sex) I like "ubuntero" way more than "ubuntista" -- "Ubuntero"

[Bug 272826] Re: "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors

2008-09-26 Thread Xan
I think this have no trivial solution. Althought it's not the intention, "ubuntero" is spanish word for male (ero declination). "ubuntera" should be the name of female (era declination) (like "jardinero" or "jardinera", or "profesor" and "profesora"). "ubuntista" could be and option for designin

[Bug 272826] Re: "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors

2008-09-25 Thread Mattias Ohlsson
[...] With regard to the status of "Ubuntista", although words ending in -a in the Latin languages are normally feminine, [...] Matt Smith It seems very hard to come up with a word that isn't gender specific in _any_ language. To change the term from "Ubuntero" to "Ubuntista" makes the term sound

[Bug 272826] Re: "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors

2008-09-25 Thread Patrick Kilgore
** Changed in: ubuntu Importance: Undecided => Wishlist -- "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/272826 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bug

[Bug 272826] Re: "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors

2008-09-25 Thread Norbert
Leigh Honeywell wrote: "Ubuntero is neutral to an anglophone, but to an hispanophone it sounds very male, so let's consider Ubuntista." then "the -ista ending is neutral in English: the person who makes fancy coffee is a barista, regardless of gender. No-one says "baristo" So -o is gender neu

[Bug 272826] Re: "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors

2008-09-25 Thread AlejandroRiveira
Well i'm spanish and i'm afraid i'm going to contradict what Lierni and Miriam Ruiz have said in this threath. In spanish we use the same termination for male and neutral gender. Ubunteros is perfectly fine to refer to a group of people that uses Ubuntu and Ubuntero to a person (of any gender) tha

Re: [Bug 272826] Re: "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors

2008-09-25 Thread Matthew East
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Matthew Paul Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This bug is valid, because even though it's an Ubuntu-specific issue, it > is hard-coded into Launchpad. So when the Community Council decides what > to change the term to, it will need changing in Launchpad. Well, I

[Bug 272826] Re: "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors

2008-09-25 Thread Ross Peoples
This sounds like trying to change the word "manager" to something else because someone says having "man" in there makes it sexistguess we better start changing our man pages to something else, like doc pages...but then doctors would get offended and we'd have to change it again. :) All joking

Re: [Bug 272826] Re: "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors

2008-09-25 Thread Matthew Smith
QDVDAuthor wrote: > How about calling it > > Ubunterra > > This would encompass the whole world gender free. Terra means earth. Perhaps it's appropriate for an organisation, but not for a person (of either sex). With regard to the status of "Ubuntista", although words ending in -a in the Lat

[Bug 272826] Re: "Ubuntero" inappropriate for female contributors

2008-09-25 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
This bug is valid, because even though it's an Ubuntu-specific issue, it is hard-coded into Launchpad. So when the Community Council decides what to change the term to, it will need changing in Launchpad. Meanwhile, Mark's proposal for allowing team-specific codes or agreements is the same as bug