[Bug 1828749] Re: ifconfig dummy0 : Device not found

2019-05-20 Thread John Denker via ubuntu-bugs
Here is better evidence. Just now I ran the experiment using same kernel version, 4.19.42, as in the xenial experiment reported above. My conclusions are unchanged. The newly-introduced incompatible and inconsistent behavior depends on the modprobe release, not on the kernel release. I knew this

[Bug 1828749] Re: ifconfig dummy0 : Device not found

2019-05-20 Thread Paride Legovini
Thanks for sharing your findings. What you found out is indeed interesting, however I'm not sure you can say the change happened in modprobe, as you are using two different kernel versions. Perhaps insmod and modprobe always behaved differently, and what changed is what the kernel does. Your sugge

[Bug 1828749] Re: ifconfig dummy0 : Device not found

2019-05-17 Thread John Denker via ubuntu-bugs
I have conducted more investigation into the cause, resulting in a significant restatement of the issue. As far as this bug is concerned, it appears there has been no regression, indeed no change in behavior in ifconfig (net-tools package) or ifup (ifupdown package). However it could be argued th

[Bug 1828749] Re: ifconfig dummy0 : Device not found

2019-05-17 Thread John Denker via ubuntu-bugs
Contrasting attachment, as discussed in previous comment. ** Attachment added: "bionic: insmod and modprobe behave differently" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/net-tools/+bug/1828749/+attachment/5264585/+files/dummy-bionic.logg -- You received this bug notification because you are

[Bug 1828749] Re: ifconfig dummy0 : Device not found

2019-05-16 Thread Robie Basak
Thank you for the additional information. I think this report is now complete, and I think I understand exactly what you mean and how you are affected. Unfortunately the use cases you have presented don't change my opinion that this is an unusual end-user configuration that is unlikely to affect t

[Bug 1828749] Re: ifconfig dummy0 : Device not found

2019-05-15 Thread John Denker via ubuntu-bugs
To reiterate and clarify: net-tools and ifupdown both exhibit the bug in bionic, whereas neither exhibits the bug in xenial. The bug is observed in the following package versions: :; apt-cache policy net-tools net-tools: Installed: 1.60+git20161116.90da8a0-1ubuntu1 Candidate: 1.60+git2016111

[Bug 1828749] Re: ifconfig dummy0 : Device not found

2019-05-15 Thread John Denker via ubuntu-bugs
Message 2 of 2: This is easy to use and/or test ifup dummy0 and ifdown dummy0 You don't need to know the complexities of the motivation for why this is important; the test case is very simple. In the context of the ifupdown package, this requires putting a stanza like this in /etc/network/inte

[Bug 1828749] Re: ifconfig dummy0 : Device not found

2019-05-15 Thread John Denker via ubuntu-bugs
Msg 1 of 2: Here is a use-case for ifup dummy0 and ifdown dummy0: I have multiple laptops. Sally has multiple laptops. Sometimes they are wired (for speed) and sometimes wireless (for portability). Sometimes we are at the same workplace, or at my abode, or her abode, or the local library, or th

[Bug 1828749] Re: ifconfig dummy0 : Device not found

2019-05-15 Thread Robie Basak
I'll add an ifupdown bug task for you. > If "auto dummy0" and "ifup dummy0" are not maintained then why bother to have a dummy device at all? We haven't discussed that, since that wasn't the failing use case you presented in your original report! I appreciate that you narrowed down the root cause

[Bug 1828749] Re: ifconfig dummy0 : Device not found

2019-05-14 Thread John Denker via ubuntu-bugs
Can you please transfer this to the ifupdown package? Or should I just resubmit it from scratch? The discussions of the importance of ifconfig are beside the point. The problem presented itself during boot-up, in connection with an "auto dummy0" directive in /etc/network/interfaces. If "auto dummy

[Bug 1828749] Re: ifconfig dummy0 : Device not found

2019-05-14 Thread Robie Basak
Note that net-tools will no longer be installed by default from Eoan onwards. The default with the primary server installer on Bionic is to use systemd-networkd via netplan, not ifupdown. Both ifconfig and ifupdown are slowly passing through the various levels of deprecation in future releases of U

[Bug 1828749] Re: ifconfig dummy0 : Device not found

2019-05-14 Thread Robie Basak
Thank you for the additional information. If you hit the bug in an upgrade from Xenial to Bionic, then why did you report version 1.60-26ubuntu1 of net-tools as affected? This version shipped with Xenial, not Bionic. Please could you confirm the version of net-tools that affects you with this prob

[Bug 1828749] Re: ifconfig dummy0 : Device not found

2019-05-14 Thread John Denker via ubuntu-bugs
*) As for priority: It's not as low as you might imagine. The problem affects not just ifconfig but also ifup, which is indispensable. It also affects the "raise network interface" target at boot time, as triggered by "auto dummy0" directives in /etc/network/interfaces. Symptom: :; ifup dummy0 C

[Bug 1828749] Re: ifconfig dummy0 : Device not found

2019-05-14 Thread Robie Basak
Thank you for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make Ubuntu better. Please could you provide an example of reproduction steps showing the behaviour you're expecting working with "This worked fine until recently"? Perhaps you'll need an older Ubuntu release, older kernel package, or

[Bug 1828749] Re: ifconfig dummy0 : Device not found

2019-05-12 Thread John Denker via ubuntu-bugs
Here's the workaround. ** Attachment added: "workaround for ifconfig dummy0 bug" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/net-tools/+bug/1828749/+attachment/5263317/+files/dummy-workaround -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to

[Bug 1828749] Re: ifconfig dummy0 : Device not found

2019-05-12 Thread John Denker via ubuntu-bugs
I put the attached file in if-pre-up.d/dummy-workaround to make my system work reliably. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1828749 Title: ifconfig dummy0 : Device not found To manage no