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Gnome-settings-daemon got fixed and bluez-gnome got demoted.
Seems like the list has been cleared! Marking bug as fixed. Really
confusing bug! ;-)
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This has become a huge metabug!
Is there any description that hasnt been updated yet.
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bluez-gnome has been demoted. so no need to fix.
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That sounds like a reasonable plan; there could hardly be a situation
where a user would want to disable it, and still have a working Gnome
desktop?
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The suggestion in comment #44 for the Print Queue Applet is also IMHO a
vast improvement over the status quo.
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We could just add "NoDisplay=true" to the gnome-settings-daemon desktop
file, and hide it completely from the capplet :-)
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gnome-settings-daemon: like I write in my comments above, my
understanding of its role is probably flawed and/or incomplete, but
based on the suggestions in comment #43 and comment #44 and my critique
of these, I'd propose something like "Manage GNOME system configuration"
or maybe "GNOME system co
Do you have any gnome-settings-daemon description suggestion?
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Seahorse seems to be gone from Startup Applications now. Setting the
task for seahorse to "Invalid".
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Tracker seems to be gone from the Startup Applications dialog. Setting
the task for tracker to "Invalid".
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Reopening for hundredpapercuts; could you please at the very least add a
description for the GNOME Settings Daemon, and maybe take out the "if
enabled" in Personal File Sharing. Also the Bluetooth Manager could
reasonably fit within the scope of this paper cut, if somebody comes up
with a good des
Also, there are still Capitalization Issues. Should the applications be
Title Case? Should the descriptions be regular prose? You see all kinds
of variants, still.
> (Incidentally, it takes several minutes to boot up!)
Sorry, not really pertinent here, and it was acceptably fast compared to
the
I downloaded http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/lucid/alpha-3/lucid-
desktop-i386.iso and booted it in Virtualbox. (Incidentally, it takes
several minutes to boot up!) I inspected the dialog System >
Preferences > Startup Applications and found the following issues to be
still open:
* Bluetooth
This bug is a huge meta-bug.
>From what i can check , the apps in the default setup have been updated. Hence
>marking it as fix released for papercuts task.
Have I missed any?
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Old "Update Notifier" description was "Update notification daemon"
In Lucid , it is > "Check for available updates automatically"
Which is what the daemon currently does, it just checks.
I believe we can mark this fix released.
Also , is there any progress from others who have been assigned
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"Indicator applet" - "Updates existing panel configurations to add the applet"
Is a better description ,
But i-a item should *not* be present in the startup list , since it does
not have anything to do with starting i-a every time the user logs in.
So , Sebastien is currently figuring a way to
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... on the other hand, if it is only useful when it first runs, and
indications remain active even if you uncheck it in Startup Programs,
that I think is a bug in its own right. Did I understand correctly that
this is in fact how it works?
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> the code is a small script run to add the indicator applet to the gnome-
> panel configuration after upgrades, it's useful only once but there is
> no easy way to mask it from the list there
So it is indeed the Growl-ish thing which sho
>> "Indicator applet" - "Configure notifications for system"
> Do you genuinely understand what this one does? Could you point to
some documentation? Is this the new notification thingamajig? Why does
it require a separate startup process in order to add something to the
panel, anyway?
the code i
@Chris Coulson: somebody who understands what gnome-settings-daemon and
its "helper" do should improve the _Comment field (or add if missing) in
their .desktop files.
See e.g. comment #21 for a slightly more detailed problem analysis and
comment #43 and the following ones for a draft proposal. So
What needs doing here for gnome-settings-daemon then?
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On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 19:20 +, "rugby471" wrote:
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Should't this be "Fix Committed" until it is actually available in an
official release?
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Reopening for update-notifier as per comment #54 (see also comment #56).
Please feel free to change back to Fix Released if you disagree,
obviously.
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@Michael Vogt, others: do you agree with my criticism of the update-
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want to be (overtly :-) obnoxious.
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Actually , Update notifier is no longer a valid name. Since the updates
behavior has been changed since Jaunty.
So renaming the update-notifier daemon > update-manager daemon would be better.
Since its now working just as an update manger daemon, and there is no other
specific notifier.
I'v ope
I'm not entirely happy with the new description for Update Notifier:
"Check for available updates automatically". The wording is somewhat
verbose (why would it check for unavailable updates, and how? Why is
this "automatically"? I think I kind of know why you put it there, but
is it really necess
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@Mark Steadman:
Open -> Opens a document is more correct,
Because the "Open" verb needs to be treated as a noun , since we are describing
the verb.
But there is *no* Open in the Startup Applications, rather only names of
apps/daemons.
Also simply expanding a name> Long name , wouldnt be a descri
@Mark Steadman:
Open -> Opens a document is more correct,
Because the "Open" verb needs to be treated as a noun , since we are describing
the verb.
But there is *no* Open in the Startup Applications, rather only names of
apps/daemons.
Also simply expanding a name> Long name , wouldnt be a descri
What does the seahorse daemon actually do here? Is this the program
that prompts me and remembers my GPG key for 10 minutes when I enter it
into thunderbird enigmail?
If so, I'd suggest something like "Remembers unlocked encryption keys
for limited time"
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Impor
In general names in menus are either nouns(OpenOffice, Mozilla Firefox,
etc.) or verbs in the imperative case (Open, Save, Uninstall foo,
Add/Remove Programs, etc.). The question is should the description be a
longer name for the action (Open -> Open a Document [longer name for
open]) or a descrip
era gives a good explanation of why these descriptions should not use
imperative case. There is nothing you have to do here; the purpose of
the description is merely to explain why the program is running in the
first place. So for example, a good description for "GNOME login sound"
would be "Plays
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Thanks for pitching in here! Allow me to comment on a few of your
suggestions, though.
As a general comment, these are applications which are started when your
session is initiated. Many of them are infrastructure, daemon-type
programs which do not directly expose a user interface. Therefore I
Hi,
Martin Albisetti:
> "GNOME accessibility" - "System accessibility process"
> "Bluetooth manager" - "Manages your bluetooth connections"
> "Evolution alarm notifier" - "Allows alarms set in Evolution to work"
[etc.] Shouldn't you use the imperative here? I.e. "Manage your ...",
"Allow alarms .
Andruk wrote:
> I think this is better, but I still don't like how some descriptions
> describe what the process does while others are simply the same words
> in the name rearranged while others describe the process itself.
> Also, get rid of the word 'daemon' - it means nothing to people who
> vie
I think this is better, but I still don't like how some descriptions
describe what the process does while others are simply the same words
in the name rearranged while others describe the process itself.
Also, get rid of the word 'daemon' - it means nothing to people who
view their computer as a to
How's this?
"GNOME accessibility" - "System accessibility process"
"Bluetooth manager" - "Manages your bluetooth connections"
"Find new hardware drivers" - "Notifies you about new hardware driver"
"Evolution alarm notifier" - "Allows alarms set in Evolution to work"
"GNOME keyring daemon" - "Manag
I'll try to tackle this and suggest tooltips for these applications.
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> It's a completely trivial fix anyway. Immediately perfect and improve
the things you can
that's not so clear, the software is not installed by default so it
would not benefit lot of users but it would break all the translations
so would be a disfavor to all the non-english users
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> It's a completely trivial fix anyway. Immediately perfect and improve
the things you can
that's not so clear, the software is not installed by default so it
would not benefit lot of users but it would break all the translations
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I think that as long as it's included and used in Ubuntu, we should
fix it. It's a completely trivial fix anyway. Immediately perfect
and improve the things you can, work carefully and thoughtfully on the
things you can't.
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 2:10 PM, era wrote:
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/s
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=515200#c5 suggests it may be moot to
attempt to fix
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@Marcel Stimberg: Sounds like a good plan. However, in the end game,
it's the upstream maintainers' call whether or not they agree; but we
could well submit patches and refer to these principles. (I don't
suppose Ubuntu is going to be prepared to deviate from upstream just to
fix this.) Perhaps
@era:
> I note the inconsistent capitalization and use of passive / active voice etc.
> Perhaps we should seek a consensus on how these should be unified.
Maybe the Gnome HIG for application tooltips should be applied here as
well?
Quoting 2.1.2 from
http://library.gnome.org/devel/hig-book/stab
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On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:52 +, "David Siegel"
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> What a fantastic paper cut!
Thanks (-:
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What a fantastic paper cut!
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I'm only noting those which are not already noted and/or fixed.
> "Check for new hardware driv..." - "Notify about new hardware
driver..."
Perhaps the Jockey team would like to consider a shorter name field if
the window size is not going to be changed.
> "GNOME Keyring Daemon" - No description
Here's the current contents as of a fresh install of Jaunty. I'm
leaving in the truncation I see on a 800x600 display, although that is
really a separate bug (LP#278964 would have been topical, but was closed
when the resize problem was fixed).
"AT SPI Registry Wrapper" - No description
"Bluetoot
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