[Bug 1051280] Re: reboot into grub prompt after system update

2012-12-20 Thread Phillip Susi
reboot -f is the same as those other two commands, and insulting people is not helpful. If you can't abide by the Ubuntu code of conduct and be respectful of others, you are welcome to look elsewhere for people who support a free OS and enjoy being insulted. If you feel the man page for reboot is

[Bug 1051280] Re: reboot into grub prompt after system update

2012-12-20 Thread Vincent Fortier
The following is equivalent to "yanking out the power cord": echo 1 > /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq echo b > /proc/sysrq-trigger AFAIK not reboot -f. Now, it's not like reboot -f had been triggerred at the millisecond where th update-grub or kernel upgrade process has been completed... or used in conju

[Bug 1051280] Re: reboot into grub prompt after system update

2012-12-20 Thread Kirk Anderson
Philip: I certainly hope you don't do IT support for a living or I would seriously consider changing careers. Let's see the manpage for: reboot "-f" option . -f Force halt or reboot, don?t call shutdown(8). Oh, yes, I can clearly see where we clearly shouldn't be using the "-f" s

[Bug 1051280] Re: reboot into grub prompt after system update

2012-12-20 Thread Phillip Susi
reboot -f does *not* flush the disk caches, thus what you just wrote ( grub ) is lost. This is like complaining there is a bug because you ran rm -rf / and successfully deleted all of your files. There are many things you shouldn't do including yanking out the drive while it is in use and droppin

[Bug 1051280] Re: reboot into grub prompt after system update

2012-12-20 Thread Kirk Anderson
I found the same thing. I was required to use "reboot -f" during the rescue CD, otherwise it complained that it wouldn't let me reboot simply using "reboot". But that "reboot -f" did NOT cause any side effects. Only the one issued from the running OS. AND, I didn't even have to do the "grub-inst

[Bug 1051280] Re: reboot into grub prompt after system update

2012-12-20 Thread Vincent Fortier
+1 ;) Seriously, there is no reason why, when flushing disk cache through reboot -f, makes grub being corrupted afterwards. BTW, using the install CD when I do the recovery procedure i'm still using reboot -f. Mount options perhaps? Although, nothing special in here... # proc

[Bug 1051280] Re: reboot into grub prompt after system update

2012-12-20 Thread Kirk Anderson
Seriously ? First you blew off Vincent by saying "you probably just should have run dpkg-reconfigure". Now you're blowing me off by saying "Don't do that". By this measure, nothing is a bug because once you know how to avoid anything, that would be the simple answer: Don't do that. At a minim

[Bug 1051280] Re: reboot into grub prompt after system update

2012-12-20 Thread Phillip Susi
reboot -f means to reboot without doing a proper shutdown and flushing disk caches and the like, and so will result in data loss. Don't do that. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1051280

[Bug 1051280] Re: reboot into grub prompt after system update

2012-12-20 Thread Vincent Fortier
ahah! ... I'm pretty sure every time it did happend to me I was indeed using reboot -f right after... good catch! -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1051280 Title: reboot into grub prompt

[Bug 1051280] Re: reboot into grub prompt after system update

2012-12-20 Thread Kirk Anderson
Vincent: you are NOT out of your mind :-) Philip: this is real I have had the exact same problem/symptoms for the last 3 days. It's been killing me. This morning I finally discovered what was causing the issue, although not the underlying problem. I have been attempting to bring up two brand new

[Bug 1051280] Re: reboot into grub prompt after system update

2012-10-26 Thread Phillip Susi
Most likely the problem was simply that grub was not installed to the MBR and you just needed to run a dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc to make sure sda was selected. Since you have resolved the problem, I'm closing the bug. ** Changed in: grub2 (Ubuntu) Status: New => Invalid -- You received t

[Bug 1051280] Re: reboot into grub prompt after system update

2012-10-22 Thread Vincent Fortier
Today I updated the kernel to 3.5.0-18-generic and resulted into a grub rescue again with a message "ELF smaller than expected". Again, booted using the live-cd (old 11.10 version), ensure to have network access through the GUI then hit CTRL-ALT-F1 to get to a shell then did the following (with /d

[Bug 1051280] Re: reboot into grub prompt after system update

2012-10-14 Thread Vincent Fortier
I now presume there are two bugs, most probably related... 1- Failure to reconfigure grub properly OR update the init image when invoked through regular apt process. I cannot tell for sure but, if I only apply a kernel update using dist-upgrade it seems to work ok but when there are a lot of

[Bug 1051280] Re: reboot into grub prompt after system update

2012-10-12 Thread Vincent Fortier
What I get after about any action related to grub. Lastly, this is hapening on my HP laptop ProBook 6460b with an SSD drive. ** Attachment added: "error: ELF header smaller than expected. (grub rescue)" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1051280/+attachment/3395985/+files/g

[Bug 1051280] Re: reboot into grub prompt after system update

2012-10-12 Thread Vincent Fortier
More infos on this: - it seems to happend about each time either grub package gets upgrade OR when there is an update to grub configurations - seems to be totally unrelated to kernel updates -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubu