Re: [Bug 1964851] Re: Ubuntu 22.04 (dev-branch) shutdown/reboot hangs

2025-08-03 Thread Tim Wetzel
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Re: [Bug 1841826] Re: Going to sleep instead of logging in while lid closed & external display

2025-08-03 Thread Tim Wetzel
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[Bug 1841826] Re: Going to sleep instead of logging in while lid closed & external display

2022-03-30 Thread Tim Wetzel
Two points -Have not been able to find a combination of logind parameters that avoids this issue. -Have also found that this problem is not limited to HDMI connection. It has also now appeared on a T480 in UltraDock using DP++ connection to external display. Again, the external display is the pr

[Bug 1841826] Re: Going to sleep instead of logging in while lid closed & external display

2022-03-07 Thread Tim Wetzel
Shadrin, I tried that... removed the # from the start of that line so it was set to ignore. It had no effect. I notice that there is another parameter LidSwitchIgnoreInhibited. That is set to yes. What is the function of that parameter, do you know? Thanks... AND I CONCUR: Please correct this bug

[Bug 1841826] Re: Going to sleep instead of logging in while lid closed & external display

2022-02-21 Thread Tim Wetzel
New wrinkle: over the weekend on startup (from full shutdown), in dock, lid down with HDMI monitor and external keyboard and mouse, got to the Ubuntu login and put in the password. Was waiting for this suspend bug to appear. Instead: got a Linux error as follows at the point where this bug typic

[Bug 1841826] Re: Going to sleep instead of logging in while lid closed & external display

2022-02-19 Thread Tim Wetzel
New wrinkle: today on startup (from full shutdown), in dock, lid down with HDMI monitor and external keyboard and mouse, got to the Ubuntu login and put in the password. Was waiting for this suspend bug to appear. Instead: got a Linux error as follows at the point where this bug typically exhibi

[Bug 1841826] Re: Going to sleep instead of logging in while lid closed & external display

2022-02-10 Thread Tim Wetzel
Yes, this is still a problem. Please see post #5 above and /bugs/1897185 where I posted earlier information. As noted by fchen, this started with Ubuntu updates and has been a problem ever since, though I started seeing it months ago. PLEASE fix this. Thanks. -- You received this bug notificat

[Bug 1841826] Re: Going to sleep instead of logging in while lid closed & external display

2021-05-29 Thread Tim Wetzel
Just want to remind us that this was NOT AN ISSUE UNTIL after the September 2020 Ubuntu 20.04 updates that included the updates to 20.04.1. Therefore I have trouble with dismissing it as a known, unaddressed hardware issue. If so, why did it work fine prior to those updates? No: there were several

[Bug 1841826] Re: Going to sleep instead of logging in while lid closed & external display

2021-05-29 Thread Tim Wetzel
See comment #5 above. Yes, the nVidia driver may appear to be a common denominator BUT... I've seen the issue trigger apparently due to other things loading as opposed to nVidia's third party driver, so it may not be anything in the nVidia driver per se. The occurrences due to other utilities (like

[Bug 1841826] Re: Going to sleep instead of logging in while lid closed & external display

2021-05-03 Thread Tim Wetzel
Agree that this is a serious issue. Like EAB, each of our setups remains constant: same laptop, dock, display, etc. This issue continues to recur probably 11 out of 12 startups when docked lid down. Notably, I have almost never seen it when the laptop is running standalone (out of the dock). Note

[Bug 1841826] Re: Going to sleep instead of logging in while lid closed & external display

2021-03-22 Thread Tim Wetzel
On our systems, T480 and T570's, this issue continues to occur EVERY STARTUP when the machine is run in the UltraDock, lid down using and external HDMI display as primary. Sometimes it is possible to bump the dock power again to restart it (and then it goes to the desktop WITHOUT any password promp

[Bug 1841826] Re: Going to sleep instead of logging in while lid closed & external display

2021-01-11 Thread Tim Wetzel
Johan and also iMac, thank you... I was trying to see whether this issue correlated with the type of cable between the dock and the external display; but obviously not since we're seeing it with both HDMI and DP. I'm not suggesting that a particular item such as the Dropbox app, Logitech USB dr

[Bug 1841826] Re: Going to sleep instead of logging in while lid closed & external display

2021-01-10 Thread Tim Wetzel
Johan, is the external monitor connected to the dock with an HDMI cable? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1841826 Title: Going to sleep instead of logging in while lid closed & external

[Bug 335662] Re: [jaunty] hplip status service cannot find system tray

2020-12-20 Thread Tim Wetzel
Update: looks like the return of this problem is being triggered by Ubuntu Updater of Dec 17 give or take a few days. That update includes AppIndicator/KStatusNotifierItem support for Gnome Shell, common files for Gnome desktop apps, crash reporting, input device management and event handling libra

[Bug 335662] Re: [jaunty] hplip status service cannot find system tray

2020-12-17 Thread Tim Wetzel
Ubuntu 20.04.1 just started throwing this error this morning. What gives??? Looks like this was fixed 10 years ago?!? This is now like the 7th or 8th bug that's recurred since the disastrous mid September updates to 20.04! C'mon! -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of

[Bug 1841826] Re: Going to sleep instead of logging in while lid closed & external display

2020-12-11 Thread Tim Wetzel
Three additional points: -This occurs with ONE external HDMI monitor connected to the dock and running as the primary display. Need not be multi-monitor. All cases I've seen involve one external monitor. -I put log information in the notes for 1897185 to show the events that preceded the suspend

[Bug 1841826] Re: Going to sleep instead of logging in while lid closed & external display

2020-12-11 Thread Tim Wetzel
A few things that may help with this, these were noted under bug 1897185. In looking at logs when this occurred (observed on ThinkPads including T440s, T570, T480 all docked and running lid-down with external display, keyboard, etc); this behavior occurred when: -using a third-party nVidia drive

[Bug 1897185] Re: Laptop docked with lid closed, goes to sleep immediately on login

2020-12-05 Thread Tim Wetzel
Another wrinkle since this week's kernel update in 20.04.1 (from 5.4.0.54.57 to 5.4.0.56.59: on every second or third startup in the UltraDock and with the external HDMI display as primary (which is where this suspend on login password problem occurs), the system now goes into never-never land inst

[Bug 1835660] Re: initramfs unpacking failed

2020-11-30 Thread Tim Wetzel
Dimitri, I note your comment #106 about secureboot patches upstream. If I recall correctly, a linux security update came down through Ubuntu Updater about the same time or just prior to the LTS 20.04.1 updates in mid September. A number of issues with LTS 20.04.1 appeared following two "batches" of

[Bug 1871268] Re: Installation fails due to useless immediate configuration error when "Install Third-Party Drivers" is selected

2020-11-30 Thread Tim Wetzel
Additional observation: I've tried using Ubuntu LTS 20.04 download images from July and August, selecting the option to install third party drivers. These images worked flawlessly at the end of the summer. But since the mid-September updates, even these earlier iso's of Ubuntu LTS 20.04 Desktop fai

[Bug 1871268] Re: Installation fails due to useless immediate configuration error when "Install Third-Party Drivers" is selected

2020-11-30 Thread Tim Wetzel
With reference to post #132 above: If this is relevant to this issue I also am experiencing problems with switching drivers for the device on my systems that uses (or can use) a Ubuntu third party driver. Specifically nVidia for the GeForce 940MX. Changing between nVidia driver versions (all wi

[Bug 1897185] Re: Laptop docked with lid closed, goes to sleep immediately on login

2020-11-30 Thread Tim Wetzel
This bug remains, and exhibits with every startup in the T570's UltraDock. Likewise, this bug has exhibited on every system here (all ThinkPads) when in their respective UltraDocks. This includes a T480, which is a current machine based on the i7-8xxx chipset. -- You received this bug notificatio

[Bug 1897185] Re: Laptop docked with lid closed, goes to sleep immediately on login

2020-11-14 Thread Tim Wetzel
Update: this is still acting up, even after the kernel update and Intel microcode updates of Nov 11 and Nov 12 respectively. Given those updates, I tested to see whether this bug is still there. Unfortunately, it is. This is a ThinkPad T570, docked, using external HDMI display (via the dock) as pr

[Bug 1897185] Re: Laptop docked with lid closed, goes to sleep immediately on login

2020-11-10 Thread Tim Wetzel
Daniel, of course. My point was that I've now seen multiple occurrences where this suspend on login bug, as it continues to occur on a given system, causes Ubuntu to become less and less stable over time. Unfortunately that impact has become predictable at least on the machines here. So to me, this

[Bug 1897185] Re: Laptop docked with lid closed, goes to sleep immediately on login

2020-11-09 Thread Tim Wetzel
This bug is destabilizing the main Ubuntu system here again. Gnome shell has begun to crash. Latest cold start once again went into suspend as soon as the login password was entered. Lines immediately before suspending were: Stopped target Main User Target A connection to the bus can't be made Er

[Bug 1872159] Re: Boot animation never finishes, especially when external monitors (or just more than one) are connected

2020-11-04 Thread Tim Wetzel
Sorry; I thought my post #85 was obvious in being a response to post #84. But to verify: the plymouth package pulled from proposed was 0.9.4git20200323-0ubuntu6.2 and still so far so good. All "normal" Ubuntu 20.04.1 Updates were up-to-date prior to pulling this from proposed. Thanks, Tim -- Y

[Bug 1897185] Re: Laptop docked with lid closed, goes to sleep immediately on login

2020-11-04 Thread Tim Wetzel
This may also help: I'm testing the fix for bug 1872159 (spinning logo hang on startup). It seems to be working. So, since the rendering of the nVidia driver is superior to the x.org driver, I switched for the generic x.org back to nVidia's latest 450 version for the T570's GeForce 940MX. Well:

[Bug 1872159] Re: Boot animation never finishes, especially when external monitors (or just more than one) are connected

2020-11-04 Thread Tim Wetzel
Brian and Daniel, So far so good. I applied this to 2 affected systems using the gui and selecting just the plymouth related items from the proposed available modules. There were 5: 2 each in software and base; and a shared library in the software (first) section. The problem had most reliably ex

[Bug 1872159] Re: Boot animation never finishes, especially when external monitors (or just more than one) are connected

2020-11-02 Thread Tim Wetzel
Daniel, with reference to post 76 above, yes: all of my configurations involved with this have one external HDMI display. The laptops run docked, lid down, with the external display as primary. The dock also provides external keyboard and mouse. I've seen it with external displays from less than 19

[Bug 1897185] Re: Laptop docked with lid closed, goes to sleep immediately on login

2020-10-31 Thread Tim Wetzel
Another system failed under 20.04.1: A T480 that hadn't been used for a while, set up dual boot Ubuntu 20.04 and Win 10. Ubuntu had updates waiting including the 20.04.1 updates from several weeks ago. As soon as that installed and the system was restarted, malfunctions began. The system was docked

[Bug 1872159] Re: Boot animation never finishes, especially when external monitors (or just more than one) are connected

2020-10-28 Thread Tim Wetzel
So my main LTS 20.04.1 system just provided some Ubuntu Updates, mainly the boot animation plymouth package. But it still shows in dpkg as 0.9.4git20200323 although it incremented to 6.1. Does this address this issue? I'm new to all this, so trying to make sure I don't test the wrong thing. -- Yo

[Bug 1872159] Re: Boot animation never finishes, especially when external monitors (or just more than one) are connected

2020-10-27 Thread Tim Wetzel
That's what I was afraid of. Guys: please address this. Isn't the whole point of LTS that stuff like this isn't supposed to happen? All 4 of the bugs I've been fighting for the past 6 weeks or so have hit LTS 20.04.1 *hard*. The initramfs, the spinning logo hang, then the suspend at login password.

[Bug 1872159] Re: Boot animation never finishes, especially when external monitors (or just more than one) are connected

2020-10-27 Thread Tim Wetzel
Brian, my systems pull from focal. I turned on the developer option and looked at what's available: plymouth isn't there. According to dpkg, the system still has the 9.4 version from 20200323 installed. Should 9.5 be available; is it not there yet; or am I looking in the wrong place? Thanks. -- Y

[Bug 1872159] Re: Boot animation never finishes, especially when external monitors (or just more than one) are connected

2020-10-27 Thread Tim Wetzel
Brian, thanks for the heads up and the links to the docs on how to test... I'll look into this later today then and post back. Thanks. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1872159 Title: Bo

[Bug 1897185] Re: Laptop docked with lid closed, goes to sleep immediately on login

2020-10-27 Thread Tim Wetzel
Daniel, this seems consistent: so long as I don't load the Dropbox app, I haven't seen the suspend. I don't know if this is the cause but regardless the Dropbox app may help in reproducing this issue? Thanks... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which i

[Bug 1897185] Re: Laptop docked with lid closed, goes to sleep immediately on login

2020-10-23 Thread Tim Wetzel
Daniel, thanks; looks like there IS something with the Dropbox app going on as one triggers of this. I changed the Dropbox properties so that Dropbox does not automatically start; turned off Dropbox sync; and turned off the Dropbox app. Shut down the system. When I started the system, it did not

[Bug 1897185] Re: Laptop docked with lid closed, goes to sleep immediately on login

2020-10-22 Thread Tim Wetzel
Looking through the logs... Seeing "Suspending" from systemd-logind this morning. The line immediately before (below) that is dropbox: load fq extention '/home/tim/.dropbox-dist/dropbox-lnx.x86_64-108.4.453/psutil._psutil_posi The lines immediately after (above) the suspending line are (

[Bug 1897185] Re: Laptop docked with lid closed, goes to sleep immediately on login

2020-10-22 Thread Tim Wetzel
Posted this detail upstream at Plymouth in hopes it may help: So I did 3 things yesterday: I applied all Ubuntu Updates; turned the splash screen back on; and reverted from the third-party nVidia drivers back to the open source driver. Then rebooted. This was the first time in a month that I was

[Bug 1897185] Re: Laptop docked with lid closed, goes to sleep immediately on login

2020-10-22 Thread Tim Wetzel
Daniel, you're right: it just happened again. Suspended as soon as I put in the login password. Uh- oh! -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1897185 Title: Laptop docked with lid closed, go

[Bug 1897185] Re: Laptop docked with lid closed, goes to sleep immediately on login

2020-10-21 Thread Tim Wetzel
NOTE that I'm not seeing this since today's fix for 1872159 (the spinning logo splash hang on startup). Are these related? Something has changed; but I'm not sure whether it's truly fixed? Thanks... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscrib

[Bug 1871268] Re: Installation fails when "Install Third-Party Drivers" is selected

2020-10-21 Thread Tim Wetzel
I am seeing much better stability of the Ubuntu distro today. I am working with a reinstallation from a 20.04.1 image from late August; I loaded it about a week ago hoping to recover from the 4 bugs I've been dealing with but still had problems. Today I ran Ubuntu Update AND went back to the open s

[Bug 1872159] Re: Boot animation never finishes when external monitors (or just more than one) are connected

2020-10-21 Thread Tim Wetzel
Update as posted upstream at Plymouth: Daniel, THANK YOU! I have applied Ubuntu Updates to the affected machines here, and then turned the splash screen back on. Knock on wood, the issue isn't happening any more. Also: another bug is gone also, it seems: Ubuntu #1897185 regarding suspend during

[Bug 1835660] Re: initramfs unpacking failed

2020-10-21 Thread Tim Wetzel
The fix for 1872159 (spinning logo hang on startup) has allowed me to turn the splash screen back on; and this error is not visible. I do, though, encourage completion of the fix for it since it rears its head when the splash screens have to be disabled. -- You received this bug notification beca

[Bug 1872159] Re: Boot animation never finishes when external monitors (or just more than one) are connected

2020-10-20 Thread Tim Wetzel
I noted this new comment: "I am used to having such problems with Nvidia graphics is involved, but this is not the case on this laptop. It has been happily running 18.04." In my case, I'm seeing this on machines that have been running *LTS 20.04* just fine UNTIL the updates to 20.04.1 started

[Bug 1900057] Re: ThinkPad T400 sleeps immediately after login in Xorg sessions, but not Wayland

2020-10-19 Thread Tim Wetzel
Daniel, please see also bug #1897185. Quite similar. And when I searched for information on the suspend on login password problem, I also found #1481442, 1589593, and 1626689 which *may* be related. I see this on Thinkpad T570 in a mechanical dock with external HDMI display and external USB keyboar

[Bug 1872159] Re: Boot animation never finishes when external monitors (or just more than one) are connected

2020-10-13 Thread Tim Wetzel
OK: I created a login at Plymouth and added comments to "bump" their bug: Booting hangs when external monitors are connected Also noted the seriousness of this and the question of whether it has corrupted T440s BIOS. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs,

[Bug 1872159] Re: Boot animation never finishes when external monitors (or just more than one) are connected

2020-10-10 Thread Tim Wetzel
Thanks James. My configuration is different: the laptops in question are in mechanical docks. The laptop remains closed (lid down); external display is connected to the dock via HDMI, external keyboard and mouse are also connected to the dock via USB dongle in the dock. So I can't start them and th

[Bug 1872159] Re: Boot animation never finishes when external monitors (or just more than one) are connected

2020-10-10 Thread Tim Wetzel
Well, that answers something I've wondered: this DOES affect the T480 (full Thunderbolt) chipset. I've seen it on T570; I've seen it reported on T470; and I've also seen it on T440s. Again, this is one of FOUR serious bugs that I've seen pop up since the Ubuntu updates starting around September 12

[Bug 1871268] Re: Installation fails when "Install Third-Party Drivers" is selected

2020-10-10 Thread Tim Wetzel
These bugs started with a Ubuntu update just prior to Sept 14 (see post 103 above). By the 14th, there were initramfs problems on startup and the hang on spinning circle which forced hard power downs. Then on Sept 24, more updates installed including updates to grub, *nvidia drivers*, and some oth

[Bug 1897185] Re: login triggers suspend after update

2020-10-10 Thread Tim Wetzel
Two additional observations on this bug: -This bug is becoming more persistent on the second machine (the first one is completely sidelined due to all this; an attempt to reload Ubuntu on it failed due to bug 1871268). -I looked back: this problem of going into suspend as soon as the login passw

[Bug 1872159] Re: booting with splash hangs when external monitors are connected

2020-10-07 Thread Tim Wetzel
Sebastien, I'm new to Ubuntu so I may not be looking in the right place... but I couldn't find much in the logs. There was no crash, no error, just... nothing. Only option was a forced power down. I could find the point where I restarted it in the logs, but nothing else seemed remarkable. And that

[Bug 1871268] Re: Installation fails when "Install Third-Party Drivers" is selected

2020-10-07 Thread Tim Wetzel
I should add that, in researching old posts on these issues, I gather that nVidia driver(s) have been a factor; so note that the last Ubuntu Updater package prior to all this did also include an update to the nVidia driver package. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of

[Bug 1871268] Re: Installation fails when "Install Third-Party Drivers" is selected

2020-10-07 Thread Tim Wetzel
I already used the daily image; and yes I got the (re)installation to complete without crashing. BUT the freshly (re)installed Ubuntu system remained unstable and therefore unusable due to other bugs that were introduced or re-introduced by the two Ubuntu Updater packages pushed out since mid-Septe

[Bug 1872159] Re: booting with splash hangs when external monitors are connected

2020-10-06 Thread Tim Wetzel
In my experience, the bug occurs when a ThinkPad is in its Ultra Dock and is run, lid closed, using external display, keyboard, and mouse. Bug #1888695 refers to a direct connection of an external monitor to the laptop's own HDMI port. Thus the configuration is not the same. The cause may be relate

[Bug 1871268] Re: Installation fails when "Install Third-Party Drivers" is selected

2020-10-05 Thread Tim Wetzel
Sorry to say that I tried to install from images from both May and June of this year, obviously 20.04. Both failed with the same crash. And, like you, I need nvidia and other specific drivers. Even if you can get past the crash, other changes that have been made since mid-September are wreaking h

[Bug 1897185] Re: login triggers suspend after update

2020-10-05 Thread Tim Wetzel
This morning, this bug affected a second machine here. Updater ran on Oct 1. This is the same machine that started having ACPI errors after the boot hanging when docked with an external display (#1872159). These problems seem to be interrelated: #1872159, 1835660, 1897185. And as stability deterior

[Bug 1897185] Re: login triggers suspend after update

2020-10-02 Thread Tim Wetzel
Prior bugs that were similar and may be related to this one include: 1481442 1589593 1626689 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1897185 Title: login triggers suspend after update To mana

[Bug 1871268] Re: Installation fails when "Install Third-Party Drivers" is selected

2020-10-02 Thread Tim Wetzel
Note that this bug also affects efforts to install older images, including 20.04 from May and June of this year: those installs crash also with this same error. This matters, because the bugs introduced by Updater changes since mid-September have made Ubuntu troublesome and unstable. Bugs that have

[Bug 1872159] Re: booting with splash hangs when external monitors are connected

2020-10-02 Thread Tim Wetzel
This bug recurred with the last two 20.04 Updater packages, starting mid-September. The initramfs upacking bug 1835660 recurred about the same time. Turning off the Ubuntu splash screen seems to avoid the problem, but when it doesn't (or until you realize that you have to make that change); the spi

[Bug 1835660] Re: initramfs unpacking failed

2020-10-02 Thread Tim Wetzel
Continues to occur even once the bug 1871268 install crash has been dealt with (installing from latest daily-live current image). So affects even a fresh install. Seemed to appear in mid-September updates along with recurrence of bug 1872159, the dreaded spinning Ubuntu logo hang on startup. So a f

[Bug 1897185] Re: login triggers suspend after update

2020-10-02 Thread Tim Wetzel
This bug continues to recur even after a fresh reinstallation of Ubuntu. After working through the installation crash (bug 1871268) by using the latest daily image; trying unsuccessfully to get rid of the still recurring initramfs errors (bug 1835660); and disabling the splash screen to avoid the d

[Bug 1897185] Re: login triggers suspend after update

2020-09-24 Thread Tim Wetzel
Additional observations: 1. This bug is interacting with another: where the "short name" of the user (the Home file name) rather than the full user name is showing up on the login screen. Usually the short name shows up on this machine when it is docked. When the laptop is being used by itself,

[Bug 1897185] [NEW] login triggers suspend after update

2020-09-24 Thread Tim Wetzel
Public bug reported: Ubuntu 20.04's software updater just applied quite a few updates affecting grub and nvidia. The modules should show in the report just submitted. Also, updates to initramfs had just installed a few days ago. Kudos in that these updates fixed two login/startup issues: I'd been