I have the same problem on my T410. The device usb1 is a usb hub, but
the only submodule normally attached to this hub (if you haven't plugged
in anything else) is the webcam. Turns out that if I suspend-blacklist
the uvcvideo driver by adding a file "uvcvideo.conf" to /etc/pm/config.d
with the lin
Another confirmation: the patch fixes things on my UL30A as well.
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On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 08:20, Ritesh Raj Sarraf
wrote:
> I think what we need here is a new module, something like exec_cmd.
>
> It definitely will not be a start/stop kind of thing.
>
Perhaps the start-stop-programs module can be extended to support in-line
commands to be executed on state chan
Yes, still an issue:
$ sudo rgrep SUSPEND_METHODS /etc/acpi /usr/share/acpi-support
$
So it's advertised in the config file but not implemented.
2010/1/18 Przemysław Kulczycki
> Is this still an issue in Ubunu 9.10?
> /etc/default/acpi-support contains:
> SUSPEND_METHODS="dbus-pm dbus-hal pm-u
#47 works on my Samsung NC-10 as well. I don't think it's a "proper fix"
though -- but it does indicate where the problem lies. In particular,
the difference between a failing situation and an expected situation is
mediated by the presence of a battery event immediately after resume.
And apparently
Can say that it is -- but then again, recently I've finally gotten all
of my systems to suspend-to-RAM correctly, so I don't have much chance
to see this happening. I'd say, consider it fixed until somebody else
reports it again!
Cheers,
Bart
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 21:13, Philip Muskovac wrote:
Actually, it's bug 576261 that was marked RESOLVED DUPLICATE, but the
bug watch now points to 525756 and lists that as RESOLVED DUPLICATE
while the source is UNCONFIRMED? Eh?
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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/333406
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That gnome-panel status update is incorrect, the upstream marked it as
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Hi guys,
Note that the Ubuntu package assumes that it's being controlled by
acpi-support, which handles these power events as well. It's not a very
nice solution, but they simply keep sticking to it because of either
laziness (i.e. lack of manpower) or historical reasons. :-/ Don't know
how yo
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I get suspend/resume failures which may or may not have anything to do
with NetworkManager crashing on resume, and me having to restart
NetworkManager by hand. Anything I can do to help debug this?
ProblemType: KernelOops
Annotation: This occure
I've been running with the changed 55NetworkManager file for a couple of
days now, and it's not working properly for me.
Two symptoms:
Once I got a hang on resume, which is new. Perhaps there should be a
timeout on the dbus-send call? Or better, perhaps the call on resume
should be async, while t
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/sbin/lsmod. And it's true: it's /bin/lsmod, not /sbin/lsmod. The same
problem is present in the init s
I've got the same problem. It goes away when I disable the webfav
module, so it's probably a bug in that package.
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Hi Thierry,
Thierry Carrez wrote:
> I am trying to solve the bug in the (2) case here. If you are in the
> (3) case (and a lot of you probably are) you should either switch to
> "system setting" mode or drop usage of CIFS mounts in favor of
> Nautilus gvfs-smb mounts.
Thanks very much for the det
Bart Samwel wrote:
> Would it help to sync before I reboot
> from the GUI, so that all pending dirty data is flushed to the cifs fs?
For the record: nope, that doesn't help. Still hangs.
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CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down
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Hi Steve,
Steve French wrote:
> A couple clarifications:
>
> 1) We really want the network file systems
> to be unmounted (or at least synced) before the network goes away.
> You do not want to risk losing file system data which has been cached
> by the Linux memory management layer.
>
> 2) If th
Hi Steve,
Steve Grecni wrote:
> Thierry, I just installed your ppa network-manager packages on Intrepid,
> and it's still hanging on shutdown (using wireless) with CIFS VFS
> errors. A fairly fresh UMPC install on a Dell Mini 9.
>
> I ran a continuous ping on the machine and network is unavailab
Thierry Carrez wrote:
> OK, I uploaded a network-manager upgrade for intrepid to my PPA:
> https://launchpad.net/~ttx/+archive/ppa
>
> This release (built on the latest network-manager in intrepid-proposed)
> basically prevents network-manager from being shut down by sendsigs...
>>From my testing
I just posted the output of "lsusb -vv" and "cat /proc/interrupts".
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On my Samsung NC10 netbook, if the wireless network traffic is high
(e.g. 800 kb/s download) the bluetooth mouse starts lagging several
seconds. This makes it unusable, I have to resort to using the touchpad
which is fine. This is on up-to-date jaun
Great, thanks!
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Interesting thing you say there: I don't use the window-picker-applet, I
just use Alt+Tab to switch between windows. When I add it to my panel,
it works as expected. But that should be a choice -- I have no need for
a window picker, it doesn't add any value for my keyboard-centric usage
pattern com
Sebastien Bacher wrote:
> do you get the issue using compiz? that seems a wm bug rather than a
> gnome-panel one
With compiz the behaviour is gone. Note that I can't properly reproduce
anymore now -- the windows start out wrong but then get corrected to the
right size a bit later. Perhaps I only s
No, I've disabled desktop effects, no compiz or anything.
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When I open the Gnome menu using the hotkey Alt+F1, and the menu is on
an auto-hide panel, the menu appears immediately, and then the panel
animatedly unhides below it, while the menu stays in place (i.e., on top
of the panel). The menu then j
Public bug reported:
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When I open the properties of my panel and select:
Expand: YES
Auto-hide: YES
Position: Bottom
And then start an application (say, Thunderbird), then the application
doesn't use the whole desktop, the size of the non-hidden panel is
subtract
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I installed the netbook remix, and one thing I noticed is that if I
start an application from the netbook-launcher that starts with a dialog
box, then that dialog box doesn't get the focus. This is especially
nasty if the dialog box is on
Same problem here; x86 architecture. I was exiting a bunch of programs
in a row, and then navigating to the quit button in the big on-desktop
menu provided by the netbook remix. It crashed when I had the quit menu
open, or just before.
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Chris, you said on 2009-02-04 that this bug was fixed ages ago. But was
it? I installed my system by installing 8.10 and then upgrading to
jaunty, on 31 January 2009. And I experienced this problem. So I'm
afraid it's not completely fixed!
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Nicolò Chieffo wrote:
> It's ok for me that my disk saves power while on battery, but I cannot
> understand why once the read head is unloaded, every minute it is
> loaded again. If the PC is idle who is causing the load cycle?
> There might be a process that every minute accesses the disk, which i
Hi Nicolò,
Nicolò Chieffo wrote:
> Thanks for the information. Anyway I noticed that leaving for 15
> minutes my laptop on battery (with 128 as -B configuration), the
> Load_Cycle raised of 15 (more or less). So I get one load cycle a
> minute (fortunately only on battery). Is this the same case o
Nicolò Chieffo wrote:
> I'm on acpi-support 0.119 and pm-utils 1.2.2.4-0ubuntu2
>
> When I'm on battery I hear very frequently the spin down noise. I bought
> my new laptop 1 month ago and the load cycle is 5180. Do you think I
> suffer this bug?
Probably. But 5180 in one month is fine: that's ab
SirLancelot wrote:
> After latest acpi-support update bug looks like fixed on my 8.10 but with
> one exception. When I close my laptop screen disk start to load/unload
> cycles again.
>
> Is it a rule on laptop hard disk with closed screen? Is it Your idea to make
> something like protection of mo
Hmmm, I never use an external keyboard but I do have the ?? layout. It
replaced my "USA International (with dead keys)", and it still works, it
just looks funny. Same problem or different problem?
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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/283128
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Hi Steve,
Steve Langasek wrote:
> Ralph, Jakob, thank you for the analysis. I've prepared a new upload of
> acpi-support to hardy-proposed, and will work on fixing this for
> intrepid and jaunty shortly.
>
> ** Changed in: acpi-support (Ubuntu Hardy)
>Status: Fix Released => In Progress
Hi Alexey,
Alexey Borzenkov wrote:
> Hanno, I don't really remember, but I think back when I was
> investigating problems with my Samsung drive I found that iotop didn't
> show all the interesting values and was patching it to be more precise.
> Also, please be aware, that querying smart will alwa
Aaargh, tried to add linux-source-2.6.27 but it now added "linux"
instead. And there's no linux-source-xxx after 2.6.24. What's going on
here?
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bojo42 wrote:
> @angel chen: good question. i'm somewhat confused by that, but when
> laptop mode is disabled in general in /etc/default/acpi-support then
> logically it shouldn't be enabled by default on battery either. but you
> could you tell me how you started laptop mode when "cat
> /proc/sys/
Yes. I run an up-to-date Intrepid as of 2008-11-06 and my npviewer.bin
goes to 100% cpu usage (on TWO cpus!) when I navigate away from a
youtube page. Running flashplugin-nonfree 10.0.12.36, sound card is snd-
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Milan wrote:
> Igor: AFAIK, laptop-mode is not enabled by default. You need to tweak
> /etc/laptop-mode/laptop-mode.conf and switch the
> ENABLE_LAPTOP_MODE_ON_BATTERY option so that CONTROL_HD_POWERMGMT=1
> really takes effect. So the bug does not come from here.
The problem is that the acpi-supp
Public bug reported:
Binary package hint: acpi-support
The config file of acpi-support (version 0.111 and up) advertises
SUSPEND_METHODS, but this is not implemented in the Ubuntu version of
acpi-support. The config file was copied verbatim from Debian, which
does support this construct, but the
Przemysław Kulczycki wrote:
> Why is acpi-support still used in Intrepid? Shouldn't Ubuntu use pm-
> utils only by now?
The acpi-support package has two functions. One is suspend, the other is
to translate hardware specific events into generic ones (such as custom
keys). I'm considering a function
Ryan Waldroop wrote:
> @ Felipe:
>
> Actually, with further testing, my laptop appears to be fixed while on AC
> power, but it's still cycling a lot on battery. The wiki page linked in the
> opening bug post has a three step process to check if everything is fixed
> and change the values if you l
Tormod Volden wrote:
> Bart, can you please comment on the patch in bug #206217 (also submitted
> to Debian), since I would like to include it in the new merge?
Sorry about the delay. It's been applied to the upstream as well --
works like a charm.
Cheers,
Bart
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Tormod Volden wrote:
> Bart, I'll wait for 1.43 before I try another merge :)
:-) Well, then at least don't merge 1.41 yet, it has some bugs that you
don't want to have around. Notably, it doesn't detect AC power when the
AC adapter is not called "AC" in sysfs -- and that's more common than
you
Alexey Borzenkov wrote:
> Also, more on laptop-mode. In config file comments I've seen that it is
> disabled by default (and it seems devs tried to make it not so obvious
> how to really enable it), because it causes odd hangs on some computers.
> What sort of hangs are we dealing with? If this was
Note that 1.42-1 has been uploaded to the Debian archive.
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Akshay Srinivasan wrote:
> Brian :-
> About your fix :- Creating a new file , didn't really do any disk
> operation - atleast not immediately - so this means laptop-mode is
> actually working.
>Paradoxically , firefox some how does instantaneous write operations-
> laptop-mode fails to w
MichaelE wrote:
> Hm, at least not with my laptops. Connection stays open even after
> logout. But do not know whether there is a setting to steer this
> behaviour.
Even if it does, what if somebody turned off the wireless network
switch, pulled the network cable plug, ...? Then you're still goin
MichaelE wrote:
> Hi
>
> got the same problem on a laptop (8.04 upgrade from 7.10, 32bit) with
> WLAN and CIFS shares. I found another bug report Bug #184676 and think
> it is the same problem?
>
> There is a workaround by changing the order of the rc-scripts --> umount
> before closing the netwo
Bart Samwel wrote:
> Leann Ogasawara wrote:
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> Just curious about which version of the iwl3945 driver you are using.
>> You can find this by running:
>>
>> modinfo iwl3945
>>
>> The reason I ask is that the 'linux-backports-m
Leann Ogasawara wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
> Just curious about which version of the iwl3945 driver you are using.
> You can find this by running:
>
> modinfo iwl3945
>
> The reason I ask is that the 'linux-backports-modules' package has an
> updated version of the iwlwifi drivers, version 1.2.25. I
Hi Andrea,
Andrea Ratto wrote:
> acpi-support does support running scripts on lid clode.
> It does not notify a "battery critical" event though. Maybe that
> functionality could be added to acpid and thus to acpi-support? Does it
> require polling?
Laptop mode tools uses the acpi battery event
Hi Andrea,
Andrea Ratto wrote:
>> Bart Samwel:
>> FWIW, in Debian I solved this by removing the acpi-support logic for laptop
>> mode tools completely
>
> That is the quick way to fix it, exactly what I have on my laptop.
> Though I think that in the long run would b
For those still reading this bug report, I would like to add my $0.02 to
Andrea's suggestions. It's always been a bit of a mystery to me why
Ubuntu handles laptop mode the way it does. All of the functionality
(enabling/disabling based on battery/ac power, based on lid switch,
hdparm settings handl
Public bug reported:
Binary package hint: usplash
I just had a "routine check" at bootup, of two file systems. My dmesg
shows that both file systems were dirty. However, usplash allowed me to
cancel the first routine check. The second one was not cancellable.
This is on Hardy, up to date as of t
I just had the same thing again. dmesg output looked pretty much the
same. I now tried just rmmod iwl3945 + modprobe iwl3945, and then it
worked again. Before trying that, I also tried restarting nm-applet and
NetworkManager, which did not make it work again.
Cheers,
Bart
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Binary package hint: linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-12-generic
I've observed this several times, not often. I start a large download,
and the iwl3945 connection simply goes down and does nothing anymore.
Here's the dmesg output from the link association:
[ 420.161250] ADDRCONF
Fixed here too, I'm back online.
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[hardy][iwl3945] 3945ABG cannot associate to public WPA2 PSK network
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Oh, and I forgot to mention: it's a public WPA2 PSK network for me as
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Here's an extra data point: I'm seeing the same problem on my machine.
The data:
- Hardy, up to date until March 22, 2008.
- It worked yesterday, now nm tries to connect but I get no bulbs. I have to
kill -9 NetworkManager, and then manually restart it, if it starts to try to
use the wireless ne
Just had a spontaneous one. Worked like a charm, problem is gone! Did
have a minor nit, but that's a separate issue which I reported as
#203711.
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Binary package hint: usplash
I just got a routine check on one of my disks at bootup. The stuff is
displayed nicely on the bootup screen, but after the check finishes, the
text ("Routine check" etc.) remains during the remainder of the boot
sequence. No indication that it's d
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I just burned an almost-full 80-minute audio CD. Then I inserted a new
blank CD. Then I tried to exit serpentine. I had to "Force Quit" it,
because it was not responding.
This is on Hardy alpha, up to date as of 17 March 2008.
ProblemType: Cr
Problem was solved by the latest upgrade. I don't know if "fix released"
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Martin Pitt wrote:
> Bart, recently a few bugs in usplash have been fixed which caused
> hiccups like those. Do you still get the problem on current hardy? (With
> usplash version 0.5.16)
I'll keep an eye out for it. I have my file systems set to check every
30 days, so I'll expect one to trigger
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I run up-to-date Hardy alpha, 64-bit version, on a Dell Inspiron 9400
with an nVidia GeForce Go 7900 GS. I used to use the binary nvidia-glx-
new driver. However, for a while now (in the order of one or two weeks),
I'm no longer offered the
Sebastien Bacher wrote:
> reassigning to network-manager but that's likely the wrong place too,
> describing how you do the mount and easy steps to trigger the hang would
> be a good idea most likely
Hi Sebastien,
Here's the steps (my comments are embedded in the output; I started
"tail -f /var/
Hmm, I didn't actually report it to nautilus, that change was made by
Dereck Wonnacott. I was already wondering about that, but I thought that
it might be some Ubuntu-internal distribution of responsibility thing.
:-)
Anyway, I run Hardy alpha, following daily updates. I don't know if
earlier Ubun
Just to add another data point, I've just seen the same, or a very
similar problem with Hardy alpha (up to date as of March 6, 2008). And I
saw it another time somewhere in the last month.
What I just saw: I get a fsck at boot on an ext3 fs that hasn't been
checked in a while (so it's not an fs wi
Public bug reported:
Binary package hint: linux-generic
I just installed the latest Hardy alpha updates (March 2, 2008) and
rebooted. The updates included linux-image-2.6.24-11-generic, but unlike
other times when I upgraded, linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-11-generic was
not installed. I don't know
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When I do an fstab smbfs mount through a network interface which is
managed by NetworkManager, and then shutdown, the network connection is
gone immediately, and then during shutdown the unmounting of the smbfs
- file system hangs, probably because it doesn't get a re
Public bug reported:
When I do an fstab smbfs mount through a network interface which is
managed by NetworkManager, and then shutdown, the network connection is
gone immediately, and then during shutdown the unmounting of the smbfs
file system hangs, probably because it doesn't get a response from
Confirmed here as well. Please fix!
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Akshay Srinivasan wrote:
> So , the hard disk doesn't exactly go into suspend when the disk head is
> parked, so the kernel doesn't get to know that the disk head is
> parked(because standby=>parking) - it interprets this as a sign that the
> hard disk is in Active/Idle mode.So it doesn't bother st
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enigma_0Z wrote:
> Hmm lshw reports:
>
> Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU
>
> Can you tell me if /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu1/cpufreq is an
> independent file or a symlink on your system? As far as monitoring to
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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/68191
enigma_0Z wrote:
> I'm not too sure that it is a duplicate, but it may be related. #68191,
> the /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu1/cpufreq/scaling_govenor reports
> "performance" or "userspace" whereas on my system t
I can confirm this, I was just about to report the same problem.
Switching back to "normal" visual effects gives me back my title bars
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In System -> Preferences -> Keyboard -> Layouts I can select keyboards
for "Netherlands", and then I can select a "Standard" keyboard. This so-
called "standard" keyboard layout is _very_ unrealistic for the
Netherlands. Yes, it's the "official" Dutch keyboad layout. No, you
c
OK, removing the LANGUAGE= line removed the error message.
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I saw this twice: first on an upgrade from Gutsy, but I've had to
reinstall because that upgrade went totally wrong (couldn't login
anymore at some point, no idea what was going on). Anyway, I've just had
the same problem on a fresh Hardy alpha 2 install. I don't remember
exactly what I did, but I
Wouter Deconinck wrote:
> My hard disk spins up when you call hddtemp. Sorry to spoil the fun.
> Cheers!
>
> # hdparm -C /dev/sda && hddtemp /dev/sda && hdparm -C /dev/sda
>
> /dev/sda:
> drive state is: standby
> /dev/sda: TOSHIBA MK8034GSX: 41°C
>
> /dev/sda:
> drive state is: active/idle
; * while on AC and disk temperature >= 59 degrees celcius : use apm 128
>
> Most disks should be able to handle temperatures up to and including 60
> degrees celcius (within the operating temperature spec) so switching to
> an apm of 128 when the temperature is 59 degrees should be saf
Brian Visel wrote:
>>From what I gather, Ubuntu synchronizes with Debian periodically, and
> individual packages are sometimes synchronized as well. But it is not
> an immediate process. It would probably be a good idea to synch this
> change over to Ubuntu, but I'm not sure who's responsible for
Chris Jones wrote:
> Bart Samwel wrote:
>>> Whose opinion is that? I would argue that it is, indeed the operating
>>> system's place to save the user from themselves.
>> ...and especially w.r.t. hardware, I might add! The OS is supposed to be
>
> You
Brian Visel wrote:
>> It is not the place for the operating system to save the user from
>> themselves.
>
> Whose opinion is that? I would argue that it is, indeed the operating
> system's place to save the user from themselves.
...and especially w.r.t. hardware, I might add! The OS is supposed
Mark,
Although I agree with some points you make, I want to question some
other assumptions.
Mark Thomas wrote:
> Disabling the APM feature of a drive can never be a fix. Parking the
> drives is a feature of the disk, and the The Load_Cycle_Count is
> supposed to go up, albeit slowly, during no
Note that the laptop-mode.conf settings won't help. Ubuntu has taken the
laptop-mode-tools package from Debian, ripped its guts out (the part
that listens on ACPI events) and failed to mention this anywhere in the
config files. By default, the whole thing is even disabled. Again, no
mention in the
Mark Thomas wrote:
> The Debian update is the workaround not the fix:
>
>* Set hdparm power management to 254 for all hard drives.
>
> I'd be happier to see the known idle-writers fixed first, so we can
> start finding out what else causes the problem. I'm concerned that with
> a workaround
ubuntu_demon wrote:
> Since it's currently impossible to recommend to turn laptop_mode on by
> default I'm currently recommending this to people who are heavily affected :
> * use apm 128 while on battery (most head parks, best protection from bumps,
> lower power usage)
> * use apm 254 while on
ubuntu_demon wrote:
> to Bart Samwel :
>
> Thanks for being so helpful.
>
> Did you fix Debian's acpi-support in such a way that it remembers apm 254
> after suspend / hibernate ?
Yes: the script 90-hdparm.sh is included in /etc/acpi/resume.d as well
as in /etc/a
ubuntu_demon wrote:
> Bart Samwel do you think acpi-support should set apm 128 while on
> battery or that laptop-mode should be enabled by default ? Do you think
> the default settings of laptop-mode in Ubuntu are sane ?
Yes, the default settings are sane. Disabling it by default is
ubuntu_demon wrote:
> * maybe Ubuntu Hardy should enable laptop-mode by default while running on
> battery with sane defaults
Not this one. It was disabled for a good reason -- system hangs. Nobody
ever found the real reason, but this is a very real problem. :-/
--
High frequency of load/unloa
ubuntu_demon wrote:
> Bart Samwel thanks for notifying us. Do you think acpi-support should be
> modified to use "hdparm -B 254" while on AC and "hdparm -B 128" while on
> battery (including booting from battery)? While on battery you generally
> want to save power
Lea Wiemann wrote:
> (I'm using Debian by the way, but from the other reports I've seen I
> believe I'm having the same problem that some Ubuntu users have.)
FYI: In Debian the hdparm -B 254 workaround has been included in
acpi-support (version 0.103-4). This'll at least keep the hard drives
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