[Ubuntu-be] Posters Ubuntu in Dutch

2009-05-03 Thread François Cauwe
Hallo Everybody, A while ago a made quite a lot of ubuntu posters in dutch "De weg naar de vrijheid is open voor iedereen". I still have quite a lot of them, what should we do with it? François -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: ht

Re: [Ubuntu-be] Posters Ubuntu in Dutch

2009-05-03 Thread François Cauwe
at this moment, Leuven :) François Mike Morraye schreef: > I want one :) > But I could use some for when I organise release party's > > Where are they located? > Ghent? Brussels? > > grtz, > > Mike > > On Sun, 2009-05-03 at 18:30 +0200, François Cauwe w

Re: [Ubuntu-be] Posters Ubuntu in Dutch

2009-05-03 Thread François Cauwe
Ghosty schreef: > Well if it's not yellow letters on a screaming red background I want one > (or more) too! :) > here you have the design; http://neverland.cauwe.org/fcauwe/poster.png -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://l

Re: [Ubuntu-be] Posters Ubuntu in Dutch

2009-05-06 Thread François Cauwe
jean7491 schreef: > About the stock of posters in Leuven, how many pieces ? and where in > Leuven ? > More than you can deam about... :) +/- 1500 > Jean Huberts > > François Cauwe a écrit : > >> Hallo Everybody, >> >> A while ago a made quite a lot

Re: [Ubuntu-be] Posters Ubuntu in Dutch

2009-05-06 Thread François Cauwe
Jan Claeys schreef: > Op zondag 03-05-2009 om 20:36 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Mike > Morraye: > >> But I could use some for when I organise release party's >> > > I can bring my stock of these posters to the release party ;) > I think we have the impression we still a huge stock of

Re: [Ubuntu-be] Posters Ubuntu in Dutch

2009-08-01 Thread François Cauwe
Hallo Everybody, I moved recently and had no internet acces. But I still have Posters, they are located in Brussels now, Everybody please let me know if you are still intereseted. François François Cauwe schreef: > Hallo Everybody, > > A while ago a made quite a lot of ubuntu p

Re: [Ubuntu-be] Proposal for printing new posters for Ubuntu-be

2009-08-01 Thread François Cauwe
Hello Everybody, I would like to point out that the old Poster was already payed before we made them, This means, we sold 250 for 60€ to several people, and also sold before the start already almost 2000 of them. Please look for buyers before you start to print. François jean7491 schreef: >

Re: [Ubuntu-be] Proposal for printing new posters for Ubuntu-be

2009-08-01 Thread François Cauwe
and new) posters and flyers for the Dipro > fairs in september : I hope a clear decision from the treasurer on > this matter within the next 10 days, before introducing the order. > > Jean > > François Cauwe a écrit : >> Hello Everybody, >> >> I would like to po

Re: [Ubuntu-be] Posters Ubuntu in Dutch

2009-08-02 Thread François Cauwe
De prijs is een donatie aan Ubuntu-be :) Hoeveel heb je er nodig? François martijn cielen schreef: > Ik zou nog altijd (afhankelijk van de prijs) graag een aantal posters > willen... > > 2009/8/1 François Cauwe mailto:franc...@cauwe.org>> > > Hallo Everybody,

[Ubuntu-be] VLOD - Workshop&Preparation meeting

2007-02-05 Thread François Cauwe
n the evening in Ghent. (I can't earlier, because I'm not in Belgium). We will meet around sharp 20:15 at Gent-Sint-Pieters (I'm coming from Leuven) The exact location will be confirmed later(around G-S-P). You want to come? Add yourself to the wiki[1] or mail or call:0486226021 Gr

[Ubuntu-be] VLOD Meeting

2007-02-11 Thread François Cauwe
Hello everybody! Because we don't have enough people that can come on monday, we have to cancel the meeting tomorrow. Sorry for this late message but I was not in Belgium last weekend. Sziá, François Cauwe -- ubuntu-be mailing list ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/ma

[Ubuntu-be] VLOD - Meeting

2007-02-13 Thread François Cauwe
Hi, The VLOD-preparation meeting wil take place on Thursday 15/02 @ 21:00 CET on irc.freenode.org in #ubuntu-be. The discussion points will be: * Who can come to the fair? * Workshop, discuss content: * Needed material (pc, server,... -> guy can help us with that) * Studyprogram * Lesson prepa

[Ubuntu-be] VLOD - PrepartionMeeting logs

2007-02-19 Thread François Cauwe
these names on the wiki: Patrick Coeman, Bram Vandoren, RoelHuybrechts. Can you confirm which days you will be available? If you have more idea's, just mail or add it to the wiki! Szia, François Cauwe -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com You can find list info and

[Ubuntu-be] VLOD - Stand buildup

2007-03-01 Thread François Cauwe
Hello everyone, Everyone is welcome to help us with the buildup of the stand at around 14:30 in flanders expo. My number is 0486/226021 Szia! François Cauwe -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com You can find list info and your subscription configuration options at

[Ubuntu-be] VLOD beurs & Internet

2007-03-04 Thread François Cauwe
Hey iedereen, Op de vlod beurs is enkel internet beschikbaar via telenet hotspots... Deze kosten 10€ per uur voor niet telenet klanten, dus niet echt goedkoop. We vroegen ons af als niemand zo geen Telenet hotspot-vouchers zou hebben? Of ons kon helpen om goedkoper internet te bezorgen? Als er ie

[Ubuntu-be] VLOD fair

2007-03-06 Thread François Cauwe
Hello everybody, The fair is really nice! We have a lot of interesed people coming around; also a lot of schools that are already trying to do nice open initiatives. We are not so far from the microsoft booth, and we have often more people hanging around at our booth. I have no pictures, but ismae

[Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu-be.org spreads Ubuntu love at VLOD education conference

2007-03-11 Thread François Cauwe
rested people. We would also thank all the volunteers that helped us make this possible! Especially: * Annelies Bollen * François Cauwe * Xavier Cauwe * Ismaël Demiddel * Guy Duportail & linux-service.be: our sponsor * Jan Fabry * Jens Ti

Re: [Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu-be.org spreads Ubuntu love at VLOD education conference

2007-03-11 Thread François Cauwe
read anymore after a while. François Cauwe On zo, 2007-03-11 at 17:30 +0100, Jens Timmerman wrote: > On 3/11/07, Michel Daggelinckx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > In total we distributed more than 700 CD'

Re: [Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu-be.org spreads Ubuntu love at VLOD education conference

2007-03-11 Thread François Cauwe
On zo, 2007-03-11 at 23:23 +0100, Nicolas Pettiaux wrote: > 2007/3/11, François Cauwe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > as a teacher myself, meeting many colleagues often, I would suggest to > pay attention in the first message, and for exemple, include some well > chosen info an

[Ubuntu-be] Call for testing!

2007-03-29 Thread François Cauwe
f you find a problem, error or you have suggestion report it to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/support.points.map/+bugs We would like to have a bug free system before the next meeting in 2 weeks! So all help is welcome! Thanks! François Cauwe -- Ing. François Cauwe Msc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&g

[Ubuntu-be] Stay on topic please! (Was: Re: Lots of info on free software packages)

2007-04-16 Thread François Cauwe
can try ubuntu-nl, if it's not related to ubuntu, I'm sure you can find appropriate lists. Thank you for understanding and respecting this! Thanks, François Cauwe [1] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be -- Ing. François Cauwe Msc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cell.

[Ubuntu-be] [Fwd: RE: Aanbod diensten]

2007-06-28 Thread François Cauwe
Hi, I mailed yesterday night already SocialWARE and i got the following answer. Greetz, François Cauwe --- Begin Message --- Beste, Bedankt voor de informatie. Ubuntu is inderdaad een attractieve optie voor de VZWs. Als er is voldoende vraag daarvoor zullen we zeker bekijken hoe onze missie op

[Ubuntu-be] ReleaseActions - Train station actions 21/10/07

2007-09-23 Thread François Cauwe
se say! I'm proposing myself to coordinating this for Leuven, but I would welcome everybody to do the same for other city's like Ghent, Brussels, ... I created a wiki page, feel free to add your name and ideas! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/ReleaseActions Can someone post this o

[Ubuntu-be] Sell vista for Ubuntu-be.org?

2007-09-23 Thread François Cauwe
Hi everybody! A while ago I received a "Vista Ultimate" and "office ultimate" from Microsoft, and I promised to test it. But because My laptop has only 512 MB of ram, which is more than enough for me, but not for vista, I had to tested vista on my mothers new laptop with vista pre-installed, befor

Re: [Ubuntu-be] ReleaseActions - Train station actions 21/10/07

2007-09-23 Thread François Cauwe
t the autorisation needed by the SNCB? > > Regards > Cedric > > 2007/9/23, François Cauwe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Hi everybody, > > I'm playing around with the following idea: > > > > Ubuntu needs to gain more visibility in Belgium. And it's impor

Re: [Ubuntu-be] ReleaseActions - Train station actions 21/10/07

2007-09-23 Thread François Cauwe
at the exit of Gent-Sint-Pieters promoting for the "International Christian Youth Days". François Cauwe Op zondag 23-09-2007 om 15:17 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Cedric Janssens: > Indeed, this is a legal mention (in France, you have to write also > IPNS (Imprimé par Nos soins)

Re: [Ubuntu-be] ReleaseActions - Train station actions 21/10/07

2007-09-23 Thread François Cauwe
C can be a good option though, as > most (all?) people leaving the station go past the bus station too... > > Anyways, trying to reach the students is a good idea. > Pierre > > > 2007/9/23, snulkid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Le dimanche 23 septembre 2007 12:17, Françoi

Re: [Ubuntu-be] ReleaseActions - Train station actions 21/10/07

2007-09-24 Thread François Cauwe
Hi Julien, Feel free to contact them about it. I think it's a excellent idea! François Cauwe On Mon, 2007-09-24 at 08:59 +0200, Julien Willem wrote: > Hello, > > What about contacting "Metro" and asking them to put an advert in > their newspapper for the

[Ubuntu-be] ReleaseActions - Train station actions 21/10/07 & 28/10/07?

2007-10-05 Thread François Cauwe
Hello everybody, I'm planning to make around 5000 flyers for the Leuven train station. It will be the same flyers we use for the fair, then we can use them also for that later on. What do you think? I also discussed it a bit with Mark, and we would like to repeat the actions the weekend after 21/

[Ubuntu-be] Buy Vista & Support free software

2007-10-09 Thread François Cauwe
Hello everybody, Like I promised a while ago I'm selling my copy of "Vista Ultimate Edition" on ebay: http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160167004568 This is a perfect opportunity for people that need Vista, but want to give money to Microsoft. Greetz, François -- ubun

Re: [Ubuntu-be] Buy Vista & Support free software

2007-10-09 Thread François Cauwe
On Wed, 2007-10-10 at 00:10 +0200, Tom Coussement wrote: > I think you meant "want to give money to ubuntu" Actually I wanted to say: "but you don't want to give money to microsoft". Greetz, François -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com You can find list info and you

[Ubuntu-be] ReleaseActions - Volunteers needed

2007-10-10 Thread François Cauwe
Hello everybody! We still need som more volunteers for the ReleaseActions in the train stations. This is how much people we already have: Leuven, Sunday evening 21/10/07 * FrancoisCauwe * AnneliesBollen (TBC) * ChristopheVDP (TBC) * MarkVDB (TBC) Leuven, Sunday evening 28/10/07 * Franc

Re: [Ubuntu-be] Buy Vista & Support free software

2007-10-11 Thread François Cauwe
Our auction got picked up by slashdot: http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/10/11/1446254 François On Wed, 2007-10-10 at 00:03 +0200, François Cauwe wrote: > Hello everybody, > > Like I promised a while ago I'm selling my copy of "Vista Ultimate > Ed

Re: [Ubuntu-be] ReleaseActions - Volunteers needed

2007-10-11 Thread François Cauwe
Thanks! On Thu, 2007-10-11 at 21:06 +0200, Bart Broeckx wrote: > I've made a post on the dutch forum to help you find volunteers: > http://forum.ubuntu-nl.org/message/154531#p154531 > > Greetz, > Bart > > > 2007/10/10, François Cauwe <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu op laptop

2007-10-12 Thread François Cauwe
Hallo, Deze mailing lijst dien enkel voor het promoten van ubuntu in België, en niet voor ondersteuning van ubuntu. Daarvoor stuur je beter een mail naar de nederlandse mailing lijst (ubuntu-nl): https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-nl Groeten, François Cauwe On Fri, 2007-10-12 at 21:14

Re: [Ubuntu-be] ReleaseActions - Volunteers needed

2007-10-16 Thread François Cauwe
ring coming to Leuven on the 21th to help you out. But what > is the planning atm? What time would you like to start and end your > action? Depending on the time schedule I can also bring a projector > (no screen though). > > Kind regards, > Rob. > > On 10/11/07, Fran

Re: [Ubuntu-be] ReleaseActions - Volunteers needed

2007-10-16 Thread François Cauwe
Hi all! On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 14:54 +0200, Rob Van Dyck wrote: > Apart from that option I still like the idea of giving out CD's for > the students that are really interested :-). Yes, I also like that idea. I'm sure we won't have any printed cd's by then. I can also burn some cd's by then. But I

[Ubuntu-be] Usefull screencast for fairs and party's

2007-10-16 Thread François Cauwe
Hello, For people that didn't saw them already, there are some really nice screencasts about ubuntu. They are quite good nice, and they give a really nice presentation about ubuntu. They are also available on high quality so idea for party's and fairs: http://screencasts.ubuntu.com http://screenca

Re: [Ubuntu-be] Buy Vista & Support free software

2007-10-16 Thread François Cauwe
Hi all! My copy of vista got sold for 255 € !!! Thanks to everybody that helped us! François On Wed, 2007-10-10 at 00:03 +0200, François Cauwe wrote: > Hello everybody, > > Like I promised a while ago I'm selling my copy of "Vista Ultimate > Edition" on ebay: &

[Ubuntu-be] Train station action

2007-10-25 Thread François Cauwe
Hi ubuntu-be.org members! The train station action was not such a big succes. We couldn't flyer. It's not allowed in Leuven (local law). But we had a nice drink all together. This means that the planned action of next weekend is also cancelled. François -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailt

Re: [Ubuntu-be] Train station action

2007-10-26 Thread François Cauwe
Hello, On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 08:47 +0200, Wouter Horré wrote: > On Thursday 25 October 2007 22:33:18 François Cauwe wrote: > > The train station action was not such a big succes. We couldn't flyer. > > It's not allowed in Leuven (local law). > > How do all thes

[Ubuntu-be] Promotional material

2008-01-16 Thread François Cauwe
Hi everybody, During the kickoff meeting we decided that we really needed some promotional material. We identified two main categories: 1) Giveaway materials (for schools, and everybody else) 2) Gadgets, to produce some money to pay 1) I made a specification[1][2] about it and would like to ask

Re: [Ubuntu-be] Promotional material

2008-01-16 Thread François Cauwe
On Wed, 2008-01-16 at 23:08 +0100, Erik Dubois wrote: > Hi Everybody, > I would please me enourmeously if we could get some promotional material > like posters and other visual gadgets. We have plenty of rooms. I would like to print these posters for schools: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/

Re: [Ubuntu-be] Promotional material

2008-01-18 Thread François Cauwe
Hi! Op vrijdag 18-01-2008 om 08:04 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Pierre Vorhagen: > This Poster is definately something for elder kids, even students I'd > say... I found one in english but is there a version in french? The source of the english version is available. I translated it to Dutch, and h

Re: [Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu theme schoonheidsfoutje

2008-01-20 Thread François Cauwe
Op zaterdag 19-01-2008 om 19:08 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef .: liezie :. : > Hallo, > > Bedankt voor de tips. > Ik was het veel moeilijker aan het zoeken dan het eigenlijk was. > (gtk2, gtk, .. enzo) > Bedankt, met "sudo gnome-appearance-properties" heb ik dezelfde theme > kunnen installeren v

[Ubuntu-be] Kickoff meeting

2008-01-20 Thread François Cauwe
Hi all! I wanted to read some meeting notes about the kickoff meeting[1], but some of them are still missing. Can someone add them? The following meeting notes are missing: * /fairs - past & plans [2] * /cooperation with nl, fr, de [3] * /ubuntu 8.04 lts and press [4] * session 4B * /educati

Re: [Ubuntu-be] Promotional material

2008-01-21 Thread François Cauwe
Hi Jens Op maandag 21-01-2008 om 13:03 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Jens Timmerman: [...] > are there any bigger versions? > are there plans to get them printed in a large amount? > I would like to sponsor €10 to receive ten to hang out in my school > (university Ghent) As discussed in the kicko

Re: [Ubuntu-be] Promotional material

2008-01-23 Thread François Cauwe
Op dinsdag 22-01-2008 om 22:45 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Stephan van Ingen: > OK Francois, > You can add me to the list for 25 euro. > Give me some posters for this and use the rest for the posters, I hope > you get enough people putting some money together for this! > > The gadget thing: I a

[Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu posters

2008-01-24 Thread François Cauwe
uiteraard wel! Groetjes, François Cauwe [1] http://neverland.cauwe.org/fcauwe/poster.png -- English Version -- Hi, We are printing posters in dutch[1] and you can get 150 of them for 60€. Mail me for more info. François -- ubuntu-be ma

Re: [Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu posters

2008-01-24 Thread François Cauwe
Op donderdag 24-01-2008 om 17:11 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Ben Bridts: > François Cauwe schreef: > > An English version can be found at the end of this mail. > > > > Ubuntu-be.org biedt u *250 *exemplaren van de bekroonde Ubuntu-poster voor > > slechts 60€, >

Re: [Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu posters

2008-01-24 Thread François Cauwe
Hi Pierre, Op donderdag 24-01-2008 om 18:29 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Pierre Vorhagen: > Mhh... You said you had the gimp files for this could you give me > a link to them? I'd like to translate it into french... I will sort everything out, write a readme and upload everything this weeken

Re: [Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu posters

2008-01-24 Thread François Cauwe
Hi, Op donderdag 24-01-2008 om 19:50 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Dirk Tas: > > http://www.gasteropodica.net/hannes/2007/05/28/ubuntu-poster-sources/ > > > you can find it here, released under the creative commons license. Or here: http://doc.ubuntu.com/~marketing/spreadubuntu/DIY%20Material

Re: [Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu posters

2008-01-25 Thread François Cauwe
Op vrijdag 25-01-2008 om 09:01 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Rob Van Dyck: > Hier moet ik toch ook even in bijspringen... > Ik kreeg namelijk dezelfde reactie van één van men vrienden. En ik > antwoorde natuurlijk: 'immuner' :-), waarop hij me vroeg waarom er dan > immuun stond. Ik had eerst "vrij

[Ubuntu-be] Group orders

2008-01-26 Thread François Cauwe
Hi everybody, It seems that we missed a couple of group orders in the past, and I would like to avoid that in the future. I made a wiki page for group orders, where evrybody can add his order, such that it is easier to coordinate: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/promotional-materials/Groupord

[Ubuntu-be] [Reminder] Ubuntu posters

2008-02-03 Thread François Cauwe
Hi All, Today it's the last day to order the posters. So be quit and send me a mail if you are interested! François Op donderdag 24-01-2008 om 15:22 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef François Cauwe: > An English version can be found at the end of this mail. > > Beste Ubuntu-gebru

Re: [Ubuntu-be] [Reminder] Ubuntu posters, smaller amounts

2008-02-04 Thread François Cauwe
Op maandag 04-02-2008 om 02:03 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Jan Claeys: > Op zondag 03-02-2008 om 12:33 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef François > Cauwe: > > Today it's the last day to order the posters. So be quit and send me a > > mail if you are interested! > > Th

Re: [Ubuntu-be] [Reminder] Ubuntu posters, smaller amounts

2008-02-04 Thread François Cauwe
e/ubuntu-poster/ I made a gimp file with all the letters of the main text, so it's just a matter of changing the order of the letters. François > 2008/2/4, François Cauwe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > Op maandag 04-02-2008 om 02:03 uur [tijdzone +0100], schre

[Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu poster are there! Pickup at fosdem!

2008-02-19 Thread François Cauwe
know so we can estimated how much of them we have to transport to Fosdem. If you want to pick them up at my place in Leuven, please contact me! François Op donderdag 24-01-2008 om 15:22 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef François Cauwe: > An English version can be found at the end of t

Re: [Ubuntu-be] presentations

2008-02-22 Thread François Cauwe
Op vrijdag 22-02-2008 om 08:18 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Tom Van Braeckel: > Op vrijdag 22-02-2008 om 07:46 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef philippe: > Needless to say, you can always make a donation to Ubuntu > (http://www.ubuntu.com/community/donations) If you prefer to help the loco team yo

[Ubuntu-be] FOSDEM 2008: Thanks to all

2008-02-25 Thread François Cauwe
Hi all, I would like to thank Jan Claeys, Pieter Verledens, Liese De Vos, David Art, Tom Van Braeckel, Sebastian, Pieter Vandewyngaerde, Bart Broeckx, Kevin Elaerts (*) and everybody that helped to make the ubuntu-be.org a great Ubuntu booth at fosdem! It was really nice to meet and exchange idea'

Re: [Ubuntu-be] Website and support points map

2008-03-20 Thread François Cauwe
oach. I've done this mistake in > > the past, I don't want to repeat it. > > > > For what I know, Drupal 6 may be a good candidate since it provides > > OpenID , customizable user profile and multilingual support. > Add to that that Canonical and m

Re: [Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu Posters

2008-04-16 Thread François Cauwe
Op maandag 14-04-2008 om 20:40 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Serge van Ginderachter: > As I bought a bunch, and try to distribute them, I'm confronted with a legal > problem: > There should be a mention of the "responsible publisger/ verantwoordelijke > uitgerever /éditeur respsonsable", which w

Re: [Ubuntu-be] Opbrengst van de Hardy Release Party voor Ubuntu-be.org

2008-06-04 Thread François Cauwe
Thanks Bart! François Op zondag 01-06-2008 om 14:43 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Bart Broeckx: > Op naam van : > BROECKX BART > Voor een bedrag van : > 660,00 EUR > Naar rekeningnummer : > 651-1398678-41 > Op naam van : > UBUNTU-BE.ORG > Uit te voeren op : > - > Met als mededeling : > OPBRENG

Re: [Ubuntu-be] [ot] welke licentie? / which license ?

2008-06-22 Thread François Cauwe
Hello Op zondag 22-06-2008 om 14:01 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Y P: > A friend of mine is busy with some projects; herefore he'd like to publish > something that we may use in the opensource world, but he'd like to make > derivate or alternate products from it and get some financial fee with it