Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.

2008-04-29 Thread t_w_
shadowh511 wrote: > THERE WILL BE AN INSTALL OPTION TO SKIP THE WIZARD No, will not happen. Don't you know that the installer tries hard to ask the _minimum_ of questions? Being told something will not happen and then shouting back like this is very childish. Also, Mr. "shadow511", there are s

Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.

2008-04-29 Thread shadowh511
What I meant was a simple checkbox. -- Ubuntu FTW! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] Random Thoughts on Mail Burst

2008-04-29 Thread Julian Oliver
..on or around Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 08:14:16PM -0700, Troy James Sobotka said: > > Bharat Varma wrote: > > The visual style I have mentioned is called 'Elements' and it has 4 > > variations - Fire (the one you can see in the link), Water, Air and Earth. > > > > Fire - Orange, the default visual st

Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.

2008-04-29 Thread Klaus Bitto
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 9:31 AM, shadowh511 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What I meant was a simple checkbox. > I think, having to customize your installation in order to not have to customize your desktop is too much forced customization already. The only thing that could maybe work would be an

Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.

2008-04-29 Thread saltedlight
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 15:57 +0200, Klaus Bitto wrote: > But even this would be regarded some kind of "first-run" app... > Honestly, I never liked the "Welcome to Windoze - have a tour around > all the new bling!"-dialogs. And if this is my 10,000 Ubuntu install do I really need this information

Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.

2008-04-29 Thread shadowh511
i'm making the idea in kommander right now, and I an making a Cancel button. On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 7:20 AM, saltedlight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 15:57 +0200, Klaus Bitto wrote: > > But even this would be regarded some kind of "first-run" app... > > Honestly, I never

Re: [ubuntu-art] Random Thoughts on Mail Burst

2008-04-29 Thread Matthew Nuzum
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 1:15 AM, Bharat Varma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2. Canonical would always prefer conservative themes to go out. Conservative > themes would be what the mainstream default desktop will eventually be. If you would have asked me before Hardy if something as exciting as the

[ubuntu-art] Intrepid Panels

2008-04-29 Thread Steph
Hi guys, It seems I had a bug of the list and received ~50 of your message in a single digest. Here's what I think of : * The animated, "live" wallpaper : it'a good idea, as long as it doesn't use more than 5% of CPU or GPU (better), and if this is realized, we have to check if it's really that e

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Panels

2008-04-29 Thread shadowh511
you're right. I changed my gtk theme to the mac osx one just to get rid of the boring grey in the panel (I even started using a dock!). As far as panel themes go, it should be smooth and glossy, but match the current theme . On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Steph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi

[ubuntu-art] How to make a gtk theme

2008-04-29 Thread shadowh511
I would really love a link to a tutorial that explains how to make a gtk theme, so I can get the elements themes drafted. -- shadowh511, Ubuntu FTW! -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Panels

2008-04-29 Thread Julian Oliver
..on or around Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 06:42:05PM +0200, Steph said: > Hi guys, > > It seems I had a bug of the list and received ~50 of your message in a > single digest. Here's what I think of : > > * The animated, "live" wallpaper : it'a good idea, as long as it doesn't use > more than 5% of CPU

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Panels

2008-04-29 Thread shadowh511
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Julian Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ..on or around Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 06:42:05PM +0200, Steph said: > > Hi guys, > > > > It seems I had a bug of the list and received ~50 of your message in a > > single digest. Here's what I think of : > > > > * The anima

Re: [ubuntu-art] How to make a gtk theme

2008-04-29 Thread Jan Niklas Hasse
http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/Tutorials/GtkThemes On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 7:02 PM, shadowh511 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would really love a link to a tutorial that explains how to make a gtk > theme, so I can get the elements themes drafted. > > -- > shadowh511, > Ubuntu FTW! > -- > ubuntu-

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Panels

2008-04-29 Thread Sumit Agarwal
On Apr 29, 2008, at 9:42 AM, Steph wrote: * The animated, "live" wallpaper : it'a good idea, as long as it doesn't use more than 5% of CPU or GPU (better), and if this is realized, we have to check if it's really that eye pleasant. Animation is cool, yes, but really unobtrusive. We could

Re: [ubuntu-art] How to make a gtk theme

2008-04-29 Thread shadowh511
thanks! On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 10:29 AM, Jan Niklas Hasse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/Tutorials/GtkThemes > > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 7:02 PM, shadowh511 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I would really love a link to a tutorial that explains how to make a gtk > > th

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Panels

2008-04-29 Thread Cory K.
Julian Oliver wrote: > 5% is way too much GPU or CPU consumption for a wallpaper IMO. It's actually *much* higher while its transitioning. On my dual-core setup Nautilus jumped up to like 60% usage using a 20second fade. Any lower then 15 didn't work. Maybe a longer fade/transition duration would

Re: [ubuntu-art] How to make a gtk theme

2008-04-29 Thread Cory K.
shadowh511 wrote: > I would really love a link to a tutorial that explains how to make a > gtk theme, so I can get the elements themes drafted. It's as complex as programming with no real great all-in-one resource for it. Just some basic pages. I think it's best we start a wiki page for links and

Re: [ubuntu-art] How to make a gtk theme

2008-04-29 Thread shadowh511
for gtk themes, right? On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > shadowh511 wrote: > > I would really love a link to a tutorial that explains how to make a > > gtk theme, so I can get the elements themes drafted. > > It's as complex as programming with no real great a

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Panels

2008-04-29 Thread Sumit Agarwal
On Apr 29, 2008, at 10:33 AM, Cory K. wrote: > Julian Oliver wrote: >> 5% is way too much GPU or CPU consumption for a wallpaper IMO. > > It's actually *much* higher while its transitioning. On my dual-core > setup Nautilus jumped up to like 60% usage using a 20second fade. Any > lower then 15 di

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Panels

2008-04-29 Thread Cory K.
Sumit Agarwal wrote: > Anyone got any estimates on CPU/GPU usage if we finagled it through > Compiz? As I said in a previous post about this, that would require taking away handling of the wallpaper from Nautilus. On the surface this sounds like a much more complex task then we need to take on o

[ubuntu-art] Stop top posting!

2008-04-29 Thread Cory K.
shadowh511, you've been asked *MANY* times in the past 2 days to stop top posting in these long threads. It absolutely *kills* continuity. Set your mail client to reply to the bottom by default if it helps. PLEASE stop. -Cory \m/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://li

Re: [ubuntu-art] Stop top posting!

2008-04-29 Thread shadowh511
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > shadowh511, you've been asked *MANY* times in the past 2 days to stop > top posting in these long threads. It absolutely *kills* continuity. Set > your mail client to reply to the bottom by default if it helps. > > PLEASE stop.

Re: [ubuntu-art] Stop top posting!

2008-04-29 Thread Cory K.
shadowh511 wrote: > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > shadowh511, you've been asked *MANY* times in the past 2 days to stop > top posting in these long threads. It absolutely *kills* > continuity. Set > your mail cl

Re: [ubuntu-art] Stop top posting!

2008-04-29 Thread Arie de Jonge
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 shadowh511 schreef: > > > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > shadowh511, you've been asked *MANY* times in the past 2 days to stop > top posting in these long threads. It abs

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Panels

2008-04-29 Thread Anton Kerezov
В 13:57 -0400 на 29.04.2008 (вт), Cory K. написа: > Sumit Agarwal wrote: > > Anyone got any estimates on CPU/GPU usage if we finagled it > through > > Compiz? > > As I said in a previous post about this, that would require taking > away > handling of the wallpaper from Nautilus. On the surface t

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Panels

2008-04-29 Thread shadowh511
> > Hello everyone, > > Right now I'm testing the first link Dana proposed and I could say It's > just brilliant. It works and the CPU is near zero % (it may use the > GPU). The transition from the one to the other image goes smoothly like > this img1:90%, img2:10% ; img1:80%, img2:20% and so on. T

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Panels

2008-04-29 Thread Dylan McCall
I entirely agree that something other than Nautilus could handle the desktop background. It has always been odd to me how that is the case now, and I bet if we had another, simpler program do it, the background could load in much more happily than it does now. (Furthermore, fancy visual effects for

Re: [ubuntu-art] Stop top posting!

2008-04-29 Thread Klaus Bitto
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 8:04 PM, shadowh511 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > shadowh511, you've been asked *MANY* times in the past 2 days to stop > > top posting in these long threads. It absolutely *kills* continuity. Set

Re: [ubuntu-art] Stop top posting!

2008-04-29 Thread Marguet (Stemp)
I'm sorry, I'm using Ubuntu's evolution and I just want to tell you : for ME it's better to top-post ! I don't even understand why someone will ask for bottom-post ! PS : it's not a troll, I just want to understand why you may ask for bottom post. I just don't get it. What I care is about the ans

Re: [ubuntu-art] Stop top posting!

2008-04-29 Thread Klaus Bitto
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 8:46 PM, Stéphane Marguet (Stemp) < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm sorry, I'm using Ubuntu's evolution and I just want to tell you : > for ME it's better to top-post ! > > I don't even understand why someone will ask for bottom-post ! > > PS : it's not a troll, I just want

Re: [ubuntu-art] Stop top posting!

2008-04-29 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 20:46 +0200, Stéphane Marguet (Stemp) wrote: > I'm sorry, I'm using Ubuntu's evolution and I just want to tell you : > for ME it's better to top-post ! > > I don't even understand why someone will ask for bottom-post ! I don't see how Evolution would fget in the way, writing

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid (Animated Background)

2008-04-29 Thread Anton Kerezov
В 11:30 -0700 на 29.04.2008 (вт), shadowh511 написа: > Hello everyone, > > Right now I'm testing the first link Dana proposed and I could > say It's > just brilliant. It works and the CPU is near zero % (it may > use the > GPU). The transitio

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid (Animated Background)

2008-04-29 Thread Cory K.
Anton Kerezov wrote: > 1.1 Find a way to to easily add slideshow backgrounds from Appearance > -> Background. Maybe add new tab Animated Background. (this have to be > discussed with the developers) It's already easy. You would just point it to the .xml file. Or D&D it in. -Cory \m/ -- ubuntu-a

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Panels

2008-04-29 Thread Álvaro Medina Ballester
I'm not agree with making the panel bigger. Gnome has a problem with upper panel, with large screens becomes unusable (it has a lot of unused space). So in my opinion we should keep ubuntu panel in 24px. 2008/4/29 Dylan McCall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I entirely agree that something other than Naut

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid (Animated Background)

2008-04-29 Thread Anton Kerezov
В 15:13 -0400 на 29.04.2008 (вт), Cory K. написа: > Anton Kerezov wrote: > > 1.1 Find a way to to easily add slideshow backgrounds from Appearance > > -> Background. Maybe add new tab Animated Background. (this have to be > > discussed with the developers) > > It's already easy. You would just poi

Re: [ubuntu-art] Random Thoughts on Mail Burst

2008-04-29 Thread Álvaro Medina Ballester
> 2. Canonical would always prefer conservative themes to go out. > Conservative themes would be what the mainstream default desktop will > eventually be. The themes would be bright, similar to OpenSuse or Fedora or > the current Ubuntu default themes. This will not change in the near future. > Ok

Re: [ubuntu-art] Random Thoughts on Mail Burst

2008-04-29 Thread Álvaro Medina Ballester
Sorry I forgot the links: [1]http://www.guidebookgallery.org/screenshots/macos90 [2]http://www.guidebookgallery.org/screenshots/macosx103 2008/4/29 Álvaro Medina Ballester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > 2. Canonical would always prefer conservative themes to go out. > > Conservative themes would be w

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu

2008-04-29 Thread sylvain marc
Have you seen the film "The 5th elements"... : AIR / WATER / FIRE / EARTH / ... & LIFE 2008/4/28 shadowh511 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Dylan McCall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Nice work trying to get things moving so early in the cycle, Shadow! > > > > To

Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.

2008-04-29 Thread sylvain marc
I agree with you 2008/4/29 Arjuna Navaratna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Just wanted to make a suggestion... > > I like the idea of letting the user determine which of the 'human element' > theme variations is used. But instead of asking the user when they first > login, what if the option is available

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Panels

2008-04-29 Thread sylvain marc
Dou you want the Bubuntu panel ? 2008/4/29 Sumit Agarwal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Apr 29, 2008, at 9:42 AM, Steph wrote: > > > * The animated, "live" wallpaper : it'a good idea, as long as it doesn't > use more than 5% of CPU or GPU (better), and if this is realized, we have to > check if it's

Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.

2008-04-29 Thread shadowh511
i need some help with the coding for it, attaching the file On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 2:00 PM, sylvain marc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I agree with you > > 2008/4/29 Arjuna Navaratna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Just wanted to make a suggestion... > > > > I like the idea of letting the user determine

[ubuntu-art] mailling list

2008-04-29 Thread Ashik Khatri
hi guys! -- Please visit www.snufflesden.com (¨`·.·´¨) `·.¸(¨`·.·´¨) Thanks, (¨`·.·´¨)¸.· Keep Smiling! `·.¸.·´Ashik khatri -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] Stop top posting!

2008-04-29 Thread Hylke Bons
Who cares! Please. Ubuntu. Art. Let's get something done! Hylke -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Panels

2008-04-29 Thread Jussi Kekkonen
I know this is stupid but, do user need full width panel, not to mention TWO of them... oh well :) 2008/4/30, sylvain marc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Dou you want the Bubuntu panel ? > > 2008/4/29 Sumit Agarwal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > On Apr 29, 2008, at 9:42 AM, Steph wrote: > > > > > > * The

Re: [ubuntu-art] Stop top posting!

2008-04-29 Thread Hylke Bons
Who cares! Please. Ubuntu. Art. Let's get something done! Hylke -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] Stop top posting!

2008-04-29 Thread Hylke Bons
Who cares! Please. Ubuntu. Art. Let's get something done! Hylke -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.

2008-04-29 Thread Cory K.
Yay! Another top post. Thanx for being considerate. ;) -Cory \m/ shadowh511 wrote: > i need some help with the coding for it, attaching the file > > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 2:00 PM, sylvain marc <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > I agree with you > > 2008/4/29 Arj

Re: [ubuntu-art] Stop top posting!

2008-04-29 Thread Cory K.
Thanx for sending it 3 times. We need more spam. Hylke Bons wrote: > Who cares! > Thanx for sending it 3 times. We need more spam. > Please. Ubuntu. Art. > Let's get something done! > > Hylke > Thanx for sending it 3 times. We need more spam. -Cory \m/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu

Re: [ubuntu-art] mailling list

2008-04-29 Thread Álvaro Medina Ballester
This is spam, really? El 29/04/2008, a las 23:21, Ashik Khatri escribió: hi guys! -- Please visit www.snufflesden.com (¨`·.·´¨) `·.¸(¨`·.·´¨) Thanks, (¨`·.·´¨)¸.· Keep Smiling! `·.¸.·´Ashik khatri -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/

Re: [ubuntu-art] Stop top posting!

2008-04-29 Thread Justin Gruenberg
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Hylke Bons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Who cares! > Please. Ubuntu. Art. > Let's get something done! > > Hylke It's standard etiquette on nearly all mailing lists. Please follow it. This isn't 'nam. There's rules here. http://www.ubuntu.com/support/communit

Re: [ubuntu-art] Stop top posting!

2008-04-29 Thread Julian Oliver
..on or around Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 08:46:45PM +0200, Stéphane Marguet (Stemp) said: > I'm sorry, I'm using Ubuntu's evolution and I just want to tell you : > for ME it's better to top-post ! > > I don't even understand why someone will ask for bottom-post ! > > PS : it's not a troll, I just wan

Re: [ubuntu-art] Stop top posting!

2008-04-29 Thread Hylke Bons
Sorry, didn't mean to send it 3 times. Something went wrong. Hylke Cory K. wrote: > Thanx for sending it 3 times. We need more spam. > > Hylke Bons wrote: > >> Who cares! >> >> > > Thanx for sending it 3 times. We need more spam. > > >> Please. Ubuntu. Art. >> Let's get something do

[ubuntu-art] Design Now, Default Later.

2008-04-29 Thread Who
Hi all I have written twice to this list in the last cycle hoping to help people distill ideas into productive work away from the default them. It hasn't really worked... As a team, I think our actual (polished, published) output is a tiny fraction of what we *could* achieve. We need to investigat

Re: [ubuntu-art] Random Thoughts on Mail Burst

2008-04-29 Thread Troy James Sobotka
Matthew Nuzum wrote: > If you would have asked me before Hardy if something as exciting as > the heron wallpaper would be the default desktop I would have said > there's no way. Give Kenneth Wimer _full_ marks here for getting that image in front of the people who use Ubuntu. If he had not put i