[ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex

Hi all ! While everybody is enjoying the new Hardy Heron, I'd like to remember the list what we set previously, the new theme for Intrepid Ibex. It's been two releases since we don't produce anything, lot of talk, no actions, and now it's time to realize something solid, consistent, to fit the hop

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex

I've been reading up on an old proposal about ambient-ly changing desktops (and themes?) in Ubuntu. Also, I have been playing with semi-transparent SVG's as backgrounds, and changing the base background color. I feel that it would be relatively trivial to create a simple system for auto-updating

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex

Hi Seth I have put such a proposal on Ubuntu Brainstorm and had also proposed the idea of semi transparent background an year ago but there was little interest in it. I can work with you to make this happen and I'm sure it will be the best improvement we can make towards an interface that feel mor

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex

Good morning, all. I'm a bit new to this, but I'd like to help with the art projects in any way I can. I do some graphic design, but so far nothing professional. The Ubuntu desktops have been quite calming and, of course, Human, but there aren't many variations of them. At least not on the base

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex

Hello Pitr, everybody. You certainly can upload stuff but I think almost all of us can do that (no offence Pitr). The real problem is that we do not have a goal. No one is telling: "We have to make a new Ubuntu theme ... It should have ... It is not advisable the following ..." and so on. In fact

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex

As a spin to the Human elments there could instead be Human environments, creating a small pack of themes with inspirations from the rainfores, desert or maybe a city, just a thought. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex

Hi Anton, I think you are right from A to Z, and I also think that most of those problems could be solved if we used adapted tools to track new ideas, requests, new creations, etc. like a forum and a blueprints page. For now, we should just pick a general goal which looks promising and work a

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex

Then, if at least 6 of us agree, then we can make a theme team. Maybe we can start with wallpapers for different elements, then make colored themes for each one. (AA Boy, read that last sentence twice) shadowh511 On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 8:17 AM, Jesper Lundgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As a

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex (Wallpaper Slideshow)

Dana Goyette wrote: > I've actually taken a look at that feature; after I first saw it in > Fedora 8 and 9 (beta at the time), I've been 'dying' to see the same > feature in Ubuntu. It turns out that the XML slideshow wallpaper > feature from Fedora has been pushed upstream, so now it exists in >

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex (Wallpaper Slideshow)

hmm, are the video cards in the systems recent? I also use windows vista, and the dreamscene thing dosen't use any cpu time, only gpu time. the slide slow thing also works fine for me in kde and e17 (using their native tools) i think you need a GPU in order to get the full joy out of animated wal

[ubuntu-art] Unity

My idea for Unity is that both wine and linux programs have the same GTK engine, KDE style, or what have you. With my idea of Unity, there will be no diffrence between the appearance of both native and wine programs. Imagine having Macromedia flash look like it was built for ubuntu, when it isn't

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex

Hold on here. I *really* think we're going about this the wrong way. I think we should have a moratorium on mock-ups that don't target specific design issues present in Hardy (these can be aesthetic or functional). Lets identify target goals and specific UI improvements, and then create mo

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex (Wallpaper Slideshow)

Cory K. wrote: > > ATM, this feature doesn't work well at all. It's totally CPU driven and > on every box I've tried it on the transition is bad. Usually ticky. Like > a *real* low frame-rate. Various resolutions, right up to a dual-core box. > > Also there's some issue where the fade or transiti

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex (Wallpaper Slideshow)

For this idea to work well it would need to utilize a compositing UI engine. Its probably best to just wait a bit until that end of things is more standardized. In this respect, OS's like Mac with its CoreImage/Quartz/etc have an advantage with a sort of enforced standardized way of doing s

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex (Wallpaper Slideshow)

Hello everyone. Really nice work Dana. I think we are making progress now :) So let this be our FIRST GOAL: 1. We have to make an automatically changing desktop with natural elements in mind (I think that the first link mostly represents this idea). Propositions should be in .png file for

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex (Wallpaper Slideshow)

Sumit Agarwal wrote: > For this idea to work well it would need to utilize a compositing UI > engine. Its probably best to just wait a bit until that end of things > is more standardized. In this respect, OS's like Mac with its > CoreImage/Quartz/etc have an advantage with a sort of enforced

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex (Wallpaper Slideshow)

To 'rephrase' and add some of my own thoughts: -ISSUE - theme not eye-pleasing enough -IDEA - create aeshetically-pleasing theme -CON - idea too vague -IDEA - large-area UI elements should be color-neutral. This would put greater visual importance and weight on ap

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex (Wallpaper Slideshow)

Sumit Agarwal wrote: > To 'rephrase' and add some of my own thoughts: > > -ISSUE - theme not eye-pleasing enough > -IDEA - create aeshetically-pleasing theme > -CON - idea too vague > -IDEA - large-area UI elements should be color-neutral. This would > put greater visual

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex (Wallpaper Slideshow)

I strongly disagree. That is perfectly fine for the broader 'grown' Linux community, but Ubuntu seeks to set itself apart by presenting itself as a *planned* unified product for the non-enthusiast community. The Linux tradition of individual freedom and creativity is a great strength. But so

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex

Sumit Agarwal wrote: >>> To 'rephrase' and add some of my own thoughts: >>> >>> -ISSUE - theme not eye-pleasing enough >>> -IDEA - create aeshetically-pleasing theme >>> -CON - idea too vague >>> -IDEA - large-area UI elements should be color-neutral. This would >>> put greater

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex

I agree, we need a few small groups that are our "theme teams" and we use this email list for either general discussion or announcements -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex

Good evening, everyone. One major problem I have had with some versions of Ubuntu is that the desktop backgrounds don't work well with widescreen monitors; since manufacturers have discovered that it's cheaper to make these, they are becoming much more common. Attached are 5,690 KB of high resolut

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex

On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Peter Mayhew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Good evening, everyone. One major problem I have had with some versions > of Ubuntu is that the desktop backgrounds don't work well with widescreen > monitors; since manufacturers have discovered that it's cheaper to make

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex (Wallpaper Slideshow)

Strike the png idea. Vectors are far superior. PNG is ridiculous, and lossy. I also feel that this could be implemented with relatively low overhead just be editing the xml of th SVG or changing backround every X seconds. But that would be a far less interesting implementation. On Mon, Apr 28,

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex

shadowh511 wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Peter Mayhew <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > Good evening, everyone. One major problem I have had with some > versions of Ubuntu is that the desktop backgrounds don't work well > with widescreen monit

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex (Wallpaper Slideshow)

Where raster content is desired (textures, etc), can bitmap data be embedded within an SVG? -Sumit On Apr 28, 2008, at 1:03 PM, Seth Woodworth wrote: Strike the png idea. Vectors are far superior. PNG is ridiculous, and lossy. I also feel that this could be implemented with relatively

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex (Wallpaper Slideshow)

Yes, it can be embeded. And frankly, unless you have some awesome textures, they aren't going to scale well to extremely large monitors or wide screens IMO. SVG's deal with wide screens far better, because they will be full resolution irregardless. 2008/4/28 Sumit Agarwal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex (Wallpaper Slideshow)

but on low-power systems, SVG takes a long time to render 2008/4/28 Seth Woodworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Yes, it can be embeded. And frankly, unless you have some awesome > textures, they aren't going to scale well to extremely large monitors or > wide screens IMO. SVG's deal with wide screens

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex (Wallpaper Slideshow)

I think it can as Inkscape may use bitmaps in it. I also agree that svg is far more superior than any bitmap but I'm not sure if the slideshow feature could use them. When I have more time I'll test it and create an example "live" background. Anton В 13:09 на 28.04.2008 (пн), Sumit Agarwal напис

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex (Wallpaper Slideshow)

shadowh511 wrote: > but on low-power systems, SVG takes a long time to render We really need to move somewhat away from catering to the lowest common denominator. Let Xubuntu and or Fluxbuntu worry more about these things. Though, as far as shipping .SVGs goes, I think it was kwwii that was telli

Re: [ubuntu-art] Unity

It's interesting... 2008/4/28 shadowh511 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > My idea for Unity is that both wine and linux programs have the same GTK > engine, KDE style, or what have you. With my idea of Unity, there will be > no diffrence between the appearance of both native and wine programs. > Imagine

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex

Hi everyone! It seems that we're going to work and create something different for Intrepid, so we should work not to create a lot of mockups, first we have to create some guidelines. I don't know how to make a poll (and I don't know if this is what we should do) but if all the artwork team

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex

Good idea Steph... 2008/4/28 Steph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi all ! > > While everybody is enjoying the new Hardy Heron, I'd like to remember the > list what we set previously, the new theme for Intrepid Ibex. It's been two > releases since we don't produce anything, lot of talk, no actions, and n

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex

Werry good proposition... I hope it was possible to do that. 2008/4/28 François Degrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi! > > It think this is a good idea to start with: > > Attached: 444K sized zip file with PNGs included. > > > > The visual style I have mentioned is called 'Elements' and it has 4 > >

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex

take a look, and be sure to post comments. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Elements On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 1:37 PM, sylvain marc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Werry good proposition... I hope it was possible to do that. > > 2008/4/28 François Degrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > >

[ubuntu-art] Ubuntu

Please add to this and help us create the elements theme Ubuntu http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dnz9fj6_3dpr5fzgq&invite=dn8kmd7 -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex

shadowh511 wrote: > take a look, and be sure to post comments. > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Elements I'd put on the page that this is being done independent or regardless of what Ubuntu does by default. Just so others who visit the page are clear about it. I'm sure as thi

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex

can i have a link to how to make gtk themes (windows borders and whatnot) On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 2:09 PM, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > shadowh511 wrote: > > take a look, and be sure to post comments. > > > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Elements > > I'd put on the pa

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex

Great idea!! I will create a "inspiration" section, if you're not agree, feel free to remove it ;) El 28/04/2008, a las 23:16, shadowh511 escribió: can i have a link to how to make gtk themes (windows borders and whatnot) On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 2:09 PM, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: s

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex

shadowh511 wrote: > Cory K. wrote: > > shadowh511 wrote: > > take a look, and be sure to post comments. > > > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Elements > > I'd put on the page that this is being done independent or > regardless of > what Ubuntu does by

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu

Nice work trying to get things moving so early in the cycle, Shadow! To feed imagination, here is a Wikipedia article on the classical elements: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_element Personally, I think the Chinese Wu Xing stuff would be the most interesting here, since it feels more tac

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu

On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Dylan McCall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nice work trying to get things moving so early in the cycle, Shadow! > > To feed imagination, here is a Wikipedia article on the classical > elements: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_element > > Personally, I think

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex

I've updated the wiki page. Now there is a section where we should post everything that can be inspiring. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Elements El 28/04/2008, a las 23:27, Cory K. escribió: > shadowh511 wrote: >> Cory K. wrote: >> >>shadowh511 wrote: >>> take a look, a

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex

I see. I'm working on putting some of my things there right now. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex

Okay, really sorry to do this folks, but I am going to nearly duplicate something I have just written; I managed to write to the wrong thread... Here is a Wikipedia article on the classical elements, which may feed some ideas... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_element Personally, I think

[ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.

On the first login, you will be greeted with a "Welcome to Ubuntu" dialog that presents two options: "Use default theme" and "Take the quiz to choose your theme" in the second, it will ask you a series of questions with answers and chooses the theme from there. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-a

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex (Wallpaper Slideshow)

On Apr 28, 2008, at 1:33 PM, Cory K. wrote: > shadowh511 wrote: >> but on low-power systems, SVG takes a long time to render > > We really need to move somewhat away from catering to the lowest > common > denominator. Let Xubuntu and or Fluxbuntu worry more about these > things. > Agreed! -

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex (Wallpaper Slideshow)

ok, i agree, we need to move ahead On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 4:39 PM, Sumit Agarwal < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Apr 28, 2008, at 1:33 PM, Cory K. wrote: > > > shadowh511 wrote: > >> but on low-power systems, SVG takes a long time to render > > > > We really need to move somewhat away from ca

Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.

That sounds fun. But also maybe too fun? -Sumit On Apr 28, 2008, at 4:37 PM, shadowh511 wrote: > On the first login, you will be greeted with a "Welcome to Ubuntu" > dialog that presents two options: "Use default theme" and "Take the > quiz to choose your theme" > in the second, it will ask

Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.

it would set us apart, and we would get the added benefit of watching Microsoft copying us! On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Sumit Agarwal < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That sounds fun. > But also maybe too fun? > > -Sumit > > > On Apr 28, 2008, at 4:37 PM, shadowh511 wrote: > > > On the first lo

Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.

shadowh511 wrote: > On the first login, you will be greeted with a "Welcome to Ubuntu" > dialog that presents two options: "Use default theme" and "Take the > quiz to choose your theme" > in the second, it will ask you a series of questions with answers and > chooses the theme from there. Huh? Wh

Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.

Hahahha... Actually, you make a very good point. Ubuntu should get in the habit of innovating UI that MS/Apple are compelled to copy. Mac's Dashboard and later Vista's Sideshow are essentially stolen ideas from the GNOME/ KDE communities. Firefox 3 has recently introduced a feature that I'

Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.

for vista, you mean sidebar, right? sideshow is an embedded display on the computing device. On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Sumit Agarwal < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hahahha... > > Actually, you make a very good point. Ubuntu should get in the habit of > innovating UI that MS/Apple are compel

Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.

Just wanted to make a suggestion... I like the idea of letting the user determine which of the 'human element' theme variations is used. But instead of asking the user when they first login, what if the option is available after installation. That way the login screen itself could be different bas

Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.

So wait. You guys want a pop-up app to ask the user what theme they want to use? -Cory \m/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.

Yes, Yes, and YES. but if two users had disagreeing themes, what would happen then? On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 5:34 PM, Arjuna Navaratna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just wanted to make a suggestion... > > I like the idea of letting the user determine which of the 'human element' > theme variations

Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.

You're right, if different users have different themes choices, the gdm should atleast be the same. :) I guess I got a little carried away by the possibilities. On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 8:51 PM, shadowh511 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, Yes, and YES. but if two users had disagreeing themes, w

Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.

Ah, that's right. Stupid confusing features names for stupid confusing useless features... -Sumit On Apr 28, 2008, at 5:08 PM, shadowh511 wrote: for vista, you mean sidebar, right? sideshow is an embedded display on the computing device. On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Sumit Agarwal <[E

Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.

All such preferences should be user/account-based, not installation- based. -Sumit On Apr 28, 2008, at 5:51 PM, shadowh511 wrote: Yes, Yes, and YES. but if two users had disagreeing themes, what would happen then? On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 5:34 PM, Arjuna Navaratna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wro

Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.

... On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Sumit Agarwal < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ah, that's right. Stupid confusing features names for stupid confusing > useless features... > > -Sumit > > > On Apr 28, 2008, at 5:08 PM, shadowh511 wrote: > > for vista, you mean sidebar, right? sideshow is an embe

Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.

shadowh511 wrote: > Yes, Yes, and YES. but if two users had disagreeing themes, what > would happen then? > > SNIP > > > Cory, its for the first login Sorry to burst your bubble but 1st-run apps of any kind will never happen in Ubuntu any

Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.

agreed On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 6:10 PM, Sumit Agarwal < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All such preferences should be user/account-based, not installation-based. > -Sumit > > > On Apr 28, 2008, at 5:51 PM, shadowh511 wrote: > > Yes, Yes, and YES. but if two users had disagreeing themes, what would

Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.

i know someone that knows GTK, so it is a possibility On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > shadowh511 wrote: > > Yes, Yes, and YES. but if two users had disagreeing themes, what > > would happen then? > > > >

Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.

shadowh511 wrote: > i know someone that knows GTK, so it is a possibility Coding this isn't actually the big thing. It's getting Ubuntu to use it. Are you guys on the same list I am? :) _Seriously_ I won't mince words with this on. Don't waste your time on this idea. It will never happen in Ubunt

Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.

THERE WILL BE AN INSTALL OPTION TO SKIP THE WIZARD On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 6:29 PM, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > shadowh511 wrote: > > i know someone that knows GTK, so it is a possibility > > Coding this isn't actually the big thing. It's getting Ubuntu to use it. > Are you guys on the s

Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.

On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 6:34 PM, shadowh511 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > THERE WILL BE AN INSTALL OPTION TO SKIP THE WIZARD > > *Facepalm* Kill me now. Hopefully my little slideshow project will make it for consideration in Intrepid, so people will see "hey, I can choose the theme!" and happily

Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.

Incorrect. Not many. MOST! Most. people. do. not. customize. their. desktop. At. all. Which is just another way of saying: lets get things right the first time. Lets put all our efforts into a tasteful default desktop. First order of business (in my opinion, and in the opinion of other non-en

Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.

shadowh511 wrote: > On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 6:29 PM, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > shadowh511 wrote: > > i know someone that knows GTK, so it is a possibility > > Coding this isn't actually the big thing. It's getting Ubuntu to > use it. > A

[ubuntu-art] Random Thoughts on Mail Burst

> Bharat Varma wrote: > The visual style I have mentioned is called 'Elements' and it has 4 > variations - Fire (the one you can see in the link), Water, Air and Earth. > > Fire - Orange, the default visual style > Water - Blue > Air - Grey > Earth - Green Don't you feel that this thinking is bor

Re: [ubuntu-art] Random Thoughts on Mail Burst

1. Before we get started on serious work, it would be preferable to know if the guidelines and palettes put up at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/HardyDesign were indeed part of what was originally planned for Hardy. If it is so, then