Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex (Wallpaper Slideshow)

2008-04-28 Thread shadowh511
ok, i agree, we need to move ahead On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 4:39 PM, Sumit Agarwal < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Apr 28, 2008, at 1:33 PM, Cory K. wrote: > > > shadowh511 wrote: > >> but on low-power systems, SVG takes a long time to render > > > > We really need to move somewhat away from ca

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex (Wallpaper Slideshow)

2008-04-28 Thread Sumit Agarwal
On Apr 28, 2008, at 1:33 PM, Cory K. wrote: > shadowh511 wrote: >> but on low-power systems, SVG takes a long time to render > > We really need to move somewhat away from catering to the lowest > common > denominator. Let Xubuntu and or Fluxbuntu worry more about these > things. > Agreed! -

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex (Wallpaper Slideshow)

2008-04-28 Thread Cory K.
shadowh511 wrote: > but on low-power systems, SVG takes a long time to render We really need to move somewhat away from catering to the lowest common denominator. Let Xubuntu and or Fluxbuntu worry more about these things. Though, as far as shipping .SVGs goes, I think it was kwwii that was telli

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex (Wallpaper Slideshow)

2008-04-28 Thread Anton Kerezov
I think it can as Inkscape may use bitmaps in it. I also agree that svg is far more superior than any bitmap but I'm not sure if the slideshow feature could use them. When I have more time I'll test it and create an example "live" background. Anton В 13:09 на 28.04.2008 (пн), Sumit Agarwal напис

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex (Wallpaper Slideshow)

2008-04-28 Thread shadowh511
but on low-power systems, SVG takes a long time to render 2008/4/28 Seth Woodworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Yes, it can be embeded. And frankly, unless you have some awesome > textures, they aren't going to scale well to extremely large monitors or > wide screens IMO. SVG's deal with wide screens

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex (Wallpaper Slideshow)

2008-04-28 Thread Seth Woodworth
Yes, it can be embeded. And frankly, unless you have some awesome textures, they aren't going to scale well to extremely large monitors or wide screens IMO. SVG's deal with wide screens far better, because they will be full resolution irregardless. 2008/4/28 Sumit Agarwal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex (Wallpaper Slideshow)

2008-04-28 Thread Sumit Agarwal
Where raster content is desired (textures, etc), can bitmap data be embedded within an SVG? -Sumit On Apr 28, 2008, at 1:03 PM, Seth Woodworth wrote: Strike the png idea. Vectors are far superior. PNG is ridiculous, and lossy. I also feel that this could be implemented with relatively

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex (Wallpaper Slideshow)

2008-04-28 Thread Seth Woodworth
Strike the png idea. Vectors are far superior. PNG is ridiculous, and lossy. I also feel that this could be implemented with relatively low overhead just be editing the xml of th SVG or changing backround every X seconds. But that would be a far less interesting implementation. On Mon, Apr 28,

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex (Wallpaper Slideshow)

2008-04-28 Thread Sumit Agarwal
I strongly disagree. That is perfectly fine for the broader 'grown' Linux community, but Ubuntu seeks to set itself apart by presenting itself as a *planned* unified product for the non-enthusiast community. The Linux tradition of individual freedom and creativity is a great strength. But so

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex (Wallpaper Slideshow)

2008-04-28 Thread Cory K.
Sumit Agarwal wrote: > To 'rephrase' and add some of my own thoughts: > > -ISSUE - theme not eye-pleasing enough > -IDEA - create aeshetically-pleasing theme > -CON - idea too vague > -IDEA - large-area UI elements should be color-neutral. This would > put greater visual

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex (Wallpaper Slideshow)

2008-04-28 Thread Sumit Agarwal
To 'rephrase' and add some of my own thoughts: -ISSUE - theme not eye-pleasing enough -IDEA - create aeshetically-pleasing theme -CON - idea too vague -IDEA - large-area UI elements should be color-neutral. This would put greater visual importance and weight on ap

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex (Wallpaper Slideshow)

2008-04-28 Thread Cory K.
Sumit Agarwal wrote: > For this idea to work well it would need to utilize a compositing UI > engine. Its probably best to just wait a bit until that end of things > is more standardized. In this respect, OS's like Mac with its > CoreImage/Quartz/etc have an advantage with a sort of enforced

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex (Wallpaper Slideshow)

2008-04-28 Thread Anton Kerezov
Hello everyone. Really nice work Dana. I think we are making progress now :) So let this be our FIRST GOAL: 1. We have to make an automatically changing desktop with natural elements in mind (I think that the first link mostly represents this idea). Propositions should be in .png file for

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex (Wallpaper Slideshow)

2008-04-28 Thread Sumit Agarwal
For this idea to work well it would need to utilize a compositing UI engine. Its probably best to just wait a bit until that end of things is more standardized. In this respect, OS's like Mac with its CoreImage/Quartz/etc have an advantage with a sort of enforced standardized way of doing s

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex (Wallpaper Slideshow)

2008-04-28 Thread Dana Goyette
Cory K. wrote: > > ATM, this feature doesn't work well at all. It's totally CPU driven and > on every box I've tried it on the transition is bad. Usually ticky. Like > a *real* low frame-rate. Various resolutions, right up to a dual-core box. > > Also there's some issue where the fade or transiti

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex (Wallpaper Slideshow)

2008-04-28 Thread shadowh511
hmm, are the video cards in the systems recent? I also use windows vista, and the dreamscene thing dosen't use any cpu time, only gpu time. the slide slow thing also works fine for me in kde and e17 (using their native tools) i think you need a GPU in order to get the full joy out of animated wal

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex (Wallpaper Slideshow)

2008-04-28 Thread Cory K.
Dana Goyette wrote: > I've actually taken a look at that feature; after I first saw it in > Fedora 8 and 9 (beta at the time), I've been 'dying' to see the same > feature in Ubuntu. It turns out that the XML slideshow wallpaper > feature from Fedora has been pushed upstream, so now it exists in >