Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Panels

2008-04-29 Thread Sumit Agarwal
On Apr 29, 2008, at 10:33 AM, Cory K. wrote: > Julian Oliver wrote: >> 5% is way too much GPU or CPU consumption for a wallpaper IMO. > > It's actually *much* higher while its transitioning. On my dual-core > setup Nautilus jumped up to like 60% usage using a 20second fade. Any > lower then 15 di

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Panels

2008-04-29 Thread Sumit Agarwal
On Apr 29, 2008, at 9:42 AM, Steph wrote: * The animated, "live" wallpaper : it'a good idea, as long as it doesn't use more than 5% of CPU or GPU (better), and if this is realized, we have to check if it's really that eye pleasant. Animation is cool, yes, but really unobtrusive. We could

Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.

2008-04-28 Thread Sumit Agarwal
Incorrect. Not many. MOST! Most. people. do. not. customize. their. desktop. At. all. Which is just another way of saying: lets get things right the first time. Lets put all our efforts into a tasteful default desktop. First order of business (in my opinion, and in the opinion of other non-en

Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.

2008-04-28 Thread Sumit Agarwal
M, shadowh511 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: for vista, you mean sidebar, right? sideshow is an embedded display on the computing device. On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Sumit Agarwal <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Hahahha... Actually, you make a very good point. Ubuntu should ge

Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.

2008-04-28 Thread Sumit Agarwal
Ah, that's right. Stupid confusing features names for stupid confusing useless features... -Sumit On Apr 28, 2008, at 5:08 PM, shadowh511 wrote: for vista, you mean sidebar, right? sideshow is an embedded display on the computing device. On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Sumit Ag

Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.

2008-04-28 Thread Sumit Agarwal
copying us! On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Sumit Agarwal <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: That sounds fun. But also maybe too fun? -Sumit On Apr 28, 2008, at 4:37 PM, shadowh511 wrote: > On the first login, you will be greeted with a "Welcome to Ubuntu" > dialog that pres

Re: [ubuntu-art] How the first theme is chosen for the user.

2008-04-28 Thread Sumit Agarwal
That sounds fun. But also maybe too fun? -Sumit On Apr 28, 2008, at 4:37 PM, shadowh511 wrote: > On the first login, you will be greeted with a "Welcome to Ubuntu" > dialog that presents two options: "Use default theme" and "Take the > quiz to choose your theme" > in the second, it will ask

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex (Wallpaper Slideshow)

2008-04-28 Thread Sumit Agarwal
On Apr 28, 2008, at 1:33 PM, Cory K. wrote: > shadowh511 wrote: >> but on low-power systems, SVG takes a long time to render > > We really need to move somewhat away from catering to the lowest > common > denominator. Let Xubuntu and or Fluxbuntu worry more about these > things. > Agreed! -

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex (Wallpaper Slideshow)

2008-04-28 Thread Sumit Agarwal
Where raster content is desired (textures, etc), can bitmap data be embedded within an SVG? -Sumit On Apr 28, 2008, at 1:03 PM, Seth Woodworth wrote: Strike the png idea. Vectors are far superior. PNG is ridiculous, and lossy. I also feel that this could be implemented with relatively

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex (Wallpaper Slideshow)

2008-04-28 Thread Sumit Agarwal
nity. And that's great! But if Ubuntu is just going to be another one of those, then there isn't a real *point* to Ubuntu. Ubuntu is meant for everyone. Such a lofty goal requires some serious planning. -Sumit On Apr 28, 2008, at 11:38 AM, Cory K. wrote: > Sumit Agarwal wrote: >&

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex (Wallpaper Slideshow)

2008-04-28 Thread Sumit Agarwal
To 'rephrase' and add some of my own thoughts: -ISSUE - theme not eye-pleasing enough -IDEA - create aeshetically-pleasing theme -CON - idea too vague -IDEA - large-area UI elements should be color-neutral. This would put greater visual importance and weight on ap

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex (Wallpaper Slideshow)

2008-04-28 Thread Sumit Agarwal
For this idea to work well it would need to utilize a compositing UI engine. Its probably best to just wait a bit until that end of things is more standardized. In this respect, OS's like Mac with its CoreImage/Quartz/etc have an advantage with a sort of enforced standardized way of doing s

Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex

2008-04-28 Thread Sumit Agarwal
Hold on here. I *really* think we're going about this the wrong way. I think we should have a moratorium on mock-ups that don't target specific design issues present in Hardy (these can be aesthetic or functional). Lets identify target goals and specific UI improvements, and then create mo

[ubuntu-art] Wiki - argument mapping

2008-04-25 Thread Sumit Agarwal
Just saw this MIT Center for Collective Intelligence tutorial on 'argument mapping'. Could be *very* helpful in the Ubuntu wiki for moving ahead on new designs, issues, and solutions. This certainly isn't just applicable for the art team, but we could test the technique and hopefully prove it f

Re: [ubuntu-art] Itrepid theme inspiration ?

2008-04-25 Thread Sumit Agarwal
Julian Oliver wrote: > ..on or around Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 05:14:22PM +0100, Sumit Agarwal said: > >> I think both mock-up links presented (the Windows one and the Ubuntu >> one) are really great examples, though they may be a touch too dark for >> mainstream tastes

Re: [ubuntu-art] Itrepid theme inspiration ?

2008-04-23 Thread Sumit Agarwal
I think both mock-up links presented (the Windows one and the Ubuntu one) are really great examples, though they may be a touch too dark for mainstream tastes (maybe I'm wrong. Vista's taskbar is very dark and so are a lot of other elements of its UI). I personally think the Windows shot is sli

Re: [ubuntu-art] (RED)

2008-04-06 Thread Sumit Agarwal
use OS for free. Maybe > it's not as urgent or dramatic as what Product (RED) does, but at least > it's something. > > D. > > 2008/4/2, Nick Bauermeister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:Am Mittwoch, den 02.04.2008, 00:12 -0700 schrieb Sumit Agarwal: > > Philosophi

Re: [ubuntu-art] (RED)

2008-04-02 Thread Sumit Agarwal
Philosophically it certainly makes sense. More difficult is the question of how exactly it would work. (RED) works by allocating a portion of sales revenue to the charity. With Ubuntu being free, does that mean Canonical would need to donate a percentage of their services revenue? Would Canonic

Re: [ubuntu-art] Linework (WAS creamlooks-gtk)

2008-03-21 Thread Sumit Agarwal
While they're at it, we could use some other hacks too that are in a somewhat similar vein. Most of all the hack I would love (and think is fairly crucial) is the ability to specify different scrollbars/titlebar widgets with active and inactive windows. How many times have you tried to scrol

Re: [ubuntu-art] creamlooks-gtk

2008-03-21 Thread Sumit Agarwal
can be eliminated entirely in favor of a drop shadow. -Sumit On Mar 21, 2008, at 4:50 PM, Julian Oliver wrote: > ..on or around Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 04:35:34PM -0700, Sumit Agarwal > said: >> It doesn't fall under K.I.S.S. because 90+% of users would never >> dream &g

Re: [ubuntu-art] creamlooks-gtk

2008-03-21 Thread Sumit Agarwal
It doesn't fall under K.I.S.S. because 90+% of users would never dream that a keyboard button would function as a toggle upon the cursor. If you can't get around just fine without a keyboard plugged in, you haven't succeeded in your interface design. You wouldn't believe how many Windows use

Re: [ubuntu-art] creamlooks-gtk

2008-03-21 Thread Sumit Agarwal
hat your point is about Western art ;) afterall, Asian sumi-e painting is particularly effective at using rich textures without gaudy colors or unnecessary outlines. -Sumit On Mar 21, 2008, at 1:23 PM, Troy James Sobotka wrote: > Sumit Agarwal wrote: >> As I see it right >> now,

Re: [ubuntu-art] creamlooks-gtk

2008-03-21 Thread Sumit Agarwal
metacity supporting transparancy I wonder it it would be possible to create a metacity with a thicker edge that was fully transparent? > Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:46:03 -0400 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] creamlooks-gtk > >

Re: [ubuntu-art] creamlooks-gtk

2008-03-21 Thread Sumit Agarwal
n Mar 21, 2008, at 9:46 AM, Cory K. wrote: > Sumit Agarwal wrote: >> I fully agree. I like the OS X border-less style, but of course that >> necessitates a compositing engine + drop shadows. >> >> I think a very minimal window border would go a long way to >> p

Re: [ubuntu-art] creamlooks-gtk

2008-03-21 Thread Sumit Agarwal
I fully agree. I like the OS X border-less style, but of course that necessitates a compositing engine + drop shadows. I think a very minimal window border would go a long way to professionalizing and de-cartooning the GNOME desktop. As I see it right now, the wide borders reflect the very anno

Re: [ubuntu-art] 2D updates

2008-02-04 Thread Sumit Agarwal
Looking good. A bit aliased, but otherwise good. What is that upper right-hand icon for? Logout? -Sumit On Feb 4, 2008 2:57 PM, Kenneth Wimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For those who didn't notice it, I've updated the 2D icons in launchpad a > bit. > Attached is a small png file which shows the