Jimmy Angelakos wrote:
I know this is a very busy time, but I was wondering, would you
consider it to be a good or bad idea to include Human themes for
Firefox and Thunderbird in Ubuntu (and perhaps install them by default
with the application)? As we're striving to identify Ubuntu with the
I agree... I just tried to stick it in there.
At some point someone should snag the related links from
the mail archives.
Starting points.
On Tue, 2006-30-05 at 03:02 +0100, Who wrote:
> Cathcing hold of every comment Mark makes is probably not the best way
> to organise things - short statement
On 5/29/06, Troy James Sobotka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Let's try to collect all of Mark's posts so that
we can keep within his goals for Ubuntu artwork.
I think this is a good idea, but I also think it is very important to
get a real set of 'Guidelines' - Mark talked about defining things a
Artwork is a MASSIVE task.
If you could help us Dennis it would be terrific!
Namely, knowing your way around Gnome or KDE etc. is of
use to all the people who are exactly the inverse of you --
all art no tech.
The best thing everyone can do right now is document all their
efforts at the wiki.
On ma, 2006-05-29 at 15:32 -0700, Troy James Sobotka wrote:
> * We need package information so Daniel doesn't get another bomb.
> * We need details on how to add / adjust / integrate various
> concepts with these packages.
> * We need to know who will do the packaging. Who will test. Etc.
I h
A while ago you asked for some help from Ubuntu-Art for the documentation.
Did you get what you needed?
I believe this is regarding the covers for the dapper documentation to
be printed (upon ordering) at lulu.com
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I know this is a very busy time, but I was wondering, would you
consider it to be a good or bad idea to include Human themes for
Firefox and Thunderbird in Ubuntu (and perhaps install them by default
with the application)? As we're striving to identify Ubuntu with the
Human theme, consider it a fo
Hello,
> I'm afraid, with this final rush, that we will end up releasing Dapper
> with all of the old Gnome default theme crap I wanted to remove, along
> with a few new but not very well thought through or complete themes.
héhé ! Microsoft is not the only one to report their release ^^
Étienne
Hello,
> Third, we will invest in development to expand the theming system, so
> that background colour and image for desktop is part of the theme, for
> example.
What do you think about
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTeam/Drafts/WideTheme ?
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==
Mark said:
Billy wrote:
> Yes, I understand all of that, I was just curious about
> going from 2 or 3 to just 1 or 2, so soon :D
Hmm... depends how optimistic I'm feeling when I hit send. Call it "1",
and if it looks like the team can handle more, "2". We have very tight
constra
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 23:10 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
Hi folks
I'm sorry to do this - Daniel just showed me the theme package with the themes you folks selected and I saw that there's a "Dapper Drake" theme. I'm afraid that we can't have a "Dapper Drake" theme which is not t
Billy wrote:
Yes, I understand all of that, I was just curious about going from 2 or
3 to just 1 or 2, so soon :D
Hmm... depends how optimistic I'm feeling when I hit send. Call it "1",
and if it looks like the team can handle more, "2". We have very tight
constraints on space on the C
Hi folks
I'm sorry to do this - Daniel just showed me the theme package with the
themes you folks selected and I saw that there's a "Dapper Drake"
theme. I'm afraid that we can't have a "Dapper Drake" theme which is
not the official theme for "Dapper Drake". And we don't have time for a
debate
Let's try to collect all of Mark's posts so that
we can keep within his goals for Ubuntu artwork.
To this end, and after MUCH restructuring by
Etienne, I have added to Et's page structure:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTeam/Documentation/Guidelines
Also, I suspect Et would appreciate some feed
Troy James Sobotka wrote:
"Our current plan is that the Dapper Drake (Ubuntu 6.06 if we hit our
June 2006 release date goal) will be the last of this first "set" of
releases. So post-Dapper we have the opportunity to define a new "feel"
or overarching theme. It would be unlikely to be...
This sounds like a good idea to me.
IMHO there was a definite lack of direction regarding decisions which
should be made much earlier in a development cycle. Bug problems and
timing issues aside, decisions about artwork should be known to all
developers in good time before a relea
> Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
Basically, I will be expecting
art team members to chip in and help get those themes to completion and
not to arbitrarily throw in "cute but totally incomplete" images.
In other words, we need to pick a few specific battles to fight, then
get organised into battalio
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 21:41 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
Billy wrote:
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 21:31 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
Viper550 wrote:
Yeah! Let's get this new, improved, and now mentioned show on the road!
Billy wrote:
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 21:31 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
Viper550 wrote:
Yeah! Let's get this new, improved, and
now mentioned show on the road!
OK. During UDS-Paris in June we can draft up:
- an art team governance plan (roles, responsibilities, appoi
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 21:31 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
Viper550 wrote:
Yeah! Let's get this new, improved, and now mentioned show on the road!
OK. During UDS-Paris in June we can draft up:
- an art team governance plan (roles, responsibilities, appoint
Viper550 wrote:
Yeah! Let's get this new, improved, and now mentioned show on the road!
OK. During UDS-Paris in June we can draft up:
- an art team governance plan (roles, responsibilities, appointments
for Edgy)
- a plan of record for Human, Tangerine and perhaps one other
community
Launchpad teams can have a default "membership length" and "renewal
length". When JoelM created this team, for some reason he set this to
30 days, and 0 days, respectivley. So you were all going to expire as
members in June. Not very useful. So I just updated the periods to 365
days respective
Hi,
A while ago you asked for some help from Ubuntu-Art for the documentation.
Did you get what you needed?
As a team we are rapidly getting organized and there is a lot more
activity than there used to be here - If you still need artwork then
now is porbably a good time to ask again :)
Who
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I think you were right. In build 27 that folder didn't even exist so it
must have been from a prior install.
Thanks,
Chuck
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 12:12 -0500, Billy wrote:
> On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 09:36 -0700, Chuck Huber wrote:
> > Need to up the permissions on Resilience/gtk-2.0/gtkrc to 644
2006/5/29, Troy James Sobotka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
On Mon, 2006-29-05 at 22:01 +0200, iacopo masi wrote:>> About the color scheme I think that for dapper , as said the last> night, would be better like 2 major color not only one. In my screen> shot I combined very well the black graphite color with
On 5/29/06, Mikael Eriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Mon, May 29, 2006 at 04:41:09PM +0200, Étienne Bersac wrote:
snip
IMHO drop the metathemes only, that way upgrades would probably still work
and all the themes would still be available, only a little more hidden.
I think this is a go
Hi everybody,as I proposed last night to mix the gtk engines I have make some pratical screenshot to see the all features of each engines (clearlooks, ubuntulooks, gflat and clearlooks cairo from where gflat derives).
I think it would be make better if we take the best things of each engines and pu
Billy wrote:
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 16:05 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
Billy wrote:
Deadlines and assignees will not be useful
for 5 months. Got any examples of Teams using these features
effectively that do not need the features? The art team doesn't need
bug reporting tools,
On Mon, 2006-29-05 at 14:11 -0500, Billy wrote:
I'd like to propose Who as another admin, if another is needed (can't
have too many). He's very active, knowledgable, and level headed.
Done. Agree 100% with Billy on this one. We are going to
need SEVERAL to keep the pace with the massive develop
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 16:05 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
Billy wrote:
Deadlines and assignees will not be useful for 5 months. Got any examples of Teams using these features effectively that do not need the features? The art team doesn't need bug reporting tools, for examp
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 15:59 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
I did ask the admin of the previous launchpad artwork team to add other people as admins. It never got done (joelM!!!) so have done it myself now. No need to create a whole new team, that's just confusing!
Yes you did. Is t
On 5/29/06, Sean Hammond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Nice work!
Thanks for the 'heads up' :)
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Just a note: It is actually possible to have longer multi-line
descriptions for themes should we want them if we insert line breaks
in the right places.
On 5/29/06, Who <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dapper-Drake: No description
>
Fixed
Now reads:
A clean theme using rich, Ubuntu colours
> Gray:
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 19:29 +0100, Who wrote:
> Dapper-Drake: No description
>
Fixed
Now reads:
A clean theme using rich, Ubuntu colours
> Gray: Uses 'minimalistic' which (correct me if I'm wrong) is not a
> word. I suggest 'minimalist.' (Although the Mist theme which is there
> by default i
Nice work!
On 5/29/06, Who <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dapper-Drake: No description
>
Fixed
Now reads:
A clean theme using rich, Ubuntu colours
> Gray: Uses 'minimalistic' which (correct me if I'm wrong) is not a
> word. I suggest 'minimalist.' (Although the Mist theme which is there
> by defa
I second that, thank you Who.- Original Message From: Troy James Sobotka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Ubuntu Art Sent: Monday, 29 May, 2006 7:20:56 PMSubject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: Urgent: Themes and IconsThank you very much for all of your work Who. Workget things done, and for that, I appreciat
Dapper-Drake: No description
Fixed
Now reads:
A clean theme using rich, Ubuntu colours
Gray: Uses 'minimalistic' which (correct me if I'm wrong) is not a
word. I suggest 'minimalist.' (Although the Mist theme which is there
by default in Breezy uses minimalistic as well)
I think that'll sta
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 18:57 +0100, Who wrote:
> Last 5 minutes.
>
> Currently it stands like this
>
> Dapper Drake: Axe or Human (I will favour keeping themes if there's a
> draw between axe and icons)
> Silicon: Axe
> Industrial: Tango
> GrayXT: Tangerine
>
> I can't think of anything more d
OK, in light of the last drama, I have made the decision to release
a draft of working procedures.
It isn't perfect. It will probably cause a fuss. It is a start.
Please locate all comments in a separate wiki page and we can deal
with them in IRC or this list. Thanks for your time.
https://
Thank you very much for all of your work Who. Work
get things done, and for that, I appreciate you making
Ubuntu that little bit better for everyone.
On Mon, 2006-29-05 at 18:57 +0100, Who wrote:
> > Last 5 minutes.
> Enjoy :)
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Somebody else should verify this as I'm testing them on Breezy and
they may be clashing with previous versions I have installed, but the
theme descriptions in Theme Preferences look a bit messed up:
Dapper-Drake: No description
Gray: Uses 'minimalistic' which (correct me if I'm wrong) is not a
w
Both Silicon and Industrial have icon themes as well and came in under
Dapper-Drake. Silicon doesn't go with any of the currently include Icon
Themes, but Dapper-Drake does. What a fiasco :(
Silicon is currently going to be in with Tango icons, which I like -
if you don't then why not head to
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 18:35 +0100, Who wrote:
> Vote was done last week! Dapper was ahead of Silicon and
> IndustrialInspirite. No need to vote again, with some last minute trick to
> get someone elses or your own theme in. That's really low. Disgusting
> really!
Billy, please!
Industrial
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 18:24 +0100, Who wrote:
On 5/29/06, Billy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 12:18 -0500, Billy wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 18:10 +0100, Who wrote:
> > We need to be done in an hour.
> >
>
> Last 5 minutes.
>
> Currently it stands like this
>
>
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 18:24 +0100, Who wrote:
On 5/29/06, Billy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 12:18 -0500, Billy wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 18:10 +0100, Who wrote:
> > We need to be done in an hour.
> >
>
> Last 5 minutes.
>
> Currently it stands like this
>
>
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 18:24 +0100, Who wrote:
On 5/29/06, Billy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 12:18 -0500, Billy wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 18:10 +0100, Who wrote:
> > We need to be done in an hour.
> >
>
> Last 5 minutes.
>
> Currently it stands like this
>
>
On Mon, 2006-29-05 at 12:21 -0500, Billy wrote:
> Or was it Silicon? Well either way. Dapper-Drake stays!
Who is doing the work and he is stressed enough as it is.
To this end, I support him 100% because he is putting in the
legwork where others have dropped the ball or are unavailable.
He is do
On 5/29/06, Billy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 12:18 -0500, Billy wrote:
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 18:10 +0100, Who wrote:
> We need to be done in an hour.
>
Last 5 minutes.
Currently it stands like this
Dapper Drake: Axe or Human (I will favour keeping themes if there's a
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 12:18 -0500, Billy wrote:
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 18:10 +0100, Who wrote:
> We need to be done in an hour.
>
Last 5 minutes.
Currently it stands like this
Dapper Drake: Axe or Human (I will favour keeping themes if there's a
draw between axe and icons)
Silicon
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 12:18 -0500, Billy wrote:
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 18:10 +0100, Who wrote:
> We need to be done in an hour.
>
Last 5 minutes.
Currently it stands like this
Dapper Drake: Axe or Human (I will favour keeping themes if there's a
draw between axe and icons)
Silicon
On 5/29/06, Billy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 18:10 +0100, Who wrote:
> We need to be done in an hour.
>
Last 5 minutes.
Currently it stands like this
Dapper Drake: Axe or Human (I will favour keeping themes if there's a
draw between axe and icons)
Silicon: Axe
Industr
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 18:10 +0100, Who wrote:
> We need to be done in an hour.
>
Last 5 minutes.
Currently it stands like this
Dapper Drake: Axe or Human (I will favour keeping themes if there's a
draw between axe and icons)
Silicon: Axe
Industrial: Tango
GrayXT: Tangerine
I can't think o
Billy wrote:
Again, they are not a result of the artwork but the code elsewhere.
Plainly stated in the bug reports. I one saw a bad svg icon crash
nautilus in the lila-brown theme. It was the fault of Inkscape and svg
libs, not the artist using the app and the libs.
Nonetheless. They ca
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 09:36 -0700, Chuck Huber wrote:
Need to up the permissions on Resilience/gtk-2.0/gtkrc to 644 or else
only root can see the gtk. Right now it's 600.
Chuck
Hmmm just installed the themes and Resiliences gtkrc is 644 here.
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We need to be done in an hour.
Last 5 minutes.
Currently it stands like this
Dapper Drake: Axe or Human (I will favour keeping themes if there's a
draw between axe and icons)
Silicon: Axe
Industrial: Tango
GrayXT: Tangerine
I can't think of anything more democratic to do in this time frame -
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 15:59 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
It is extremly rare that artwork is the cause of any true bug.
Totally untrue. We are having a flurry of bugs show up now because of new artwork. Not just bugs in the artwork itself, but interesting interactions
Hello,
I add that :
https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/ship-selected-desktop-theme
Wish that help.
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On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 16:41 +0200, Étienne Bersac wrote:
I wonder if we can drop all other theme except accessibility themes that
are not selected by artwork team. According to dholbach dropping those
theme must be done " in accordance with everybody else". Don't exactly
understand that.
W
Need to up the permissions on Resilience/gtk-2.0/gtkrc to 644 or else
only root can see the gtk. Right now it's 600.
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hi,
Am Montag, den 29.05.2006, 16:41 +0200 schrieb Étienne Bersac:
> That would be nice if artwork team have a real control of artwork shiped
> by ubuntu.
note that we usually write a spec for such stuff in advance for the
distro team, the art team should probably do the same in edgy. writing a
we
On 5/29/06, Chuck Huber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi,
I'd like to vote as follows.
Dapper Drake, Human
Industrial , Tango
Silicon, Tango
GrayXT, Tangerine
Thanks,
Chuck
I've wiki'd it for you :)
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Hi,
I'd like to vote as follows.
Dapper Drake, Human
Industrial , Tango
Silicon, Tango
GrayXT, Tangerine
Thanks,
Chuck
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 16:11 +0100, Who wrote:
> There is not space on the CD to include any more icon themes. As a
> result we need to decide whether to axe any theme not usin
Hello,
> If you want to drop some themes don't forget the upgrade path, some
> people are probably using those so they should stay available on upgrade
If we drop gnome-theme dependance of ubuntu-desktop, would gnome-theme
be removed at upgrade ?
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There is not space on the CD to include any more icon themes. As a
result we need to decide whether to axe any theme not using Tango,
Tangerine, Human or Gnome or to apply another theme to it
The themes affected are. I think we should vote on what to do
Dapper Drake: Was Gion - proposed Gnome or
Billy wrote:
Deadlines and assignees will not be useful for 5 months. Got any
examples of Teams using these features effectively that do not need the
features? The art team doesn't need bug reporting tools, for example.
Again, what features are useful for the ArtTeam?
Billy, you are com
I did ask the admin of the previous launchpad artwork team to add other
people as admins. It never got done (joelM!!!) so have done it myself
now. No need to create a whole new team, that's just confusing!
I have also changed the default subscription and renewal period to be
365 days - it was
Hello,
Sorry for crosspost, but dholbach told me to tell ubuntu-devel about
that matter. I quitely obey. ;)
For the first time with dapper, the artwork team vote a selection of
wallpaper and community artwork to ship along the default Human theme.
That is really great !
I wonder if we can drop a
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 14:30 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
> No problem. The most important thing now is to help Daniel Holbach
> correct the packaging. If you can hop onto IRC and talk him through it
> (dholbach) that would be great. Or send him detailed patches, or
> descriptions of what needs
On 5/29/06, Mark Shuttleworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Michiel Sikma wrote:
Op 29-mei-2006, om 15:17 heeft Mark Shuttleworth het volgende geschreven:
Michiel Sikma wrote:
Huh. How can the themes not be included correctly when there are only two
days left before launch?
That was why we ask
Michiel Sikma wrote:
Op 29-mei-2006, om 15:17 heeft Mark Shuttleworth het
volgende geschreven:
Michiel Sikma wrote:
Huh. How can the themes not be included
correctly when there are only two days left before launch?
That was why we asked for a community decision may
Op 29-mei-2006, om 15:17 heeft Mark Shuttleworth het volgende
geschreven:
Michiel Sikma wrote:
Huh. How can the themes not be included correctly when there are
only two days left before launch?
That was why we asked for a community decision may 15th, not May
24th :-)
Mark
I know that t
On 5/29/06, Daniel Holbach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello everybody,
Am Montag, den 29.05.2006, 05:08 -0700 schrieb Chuck Huber:
> Wow. After looking into it, the new themes aren't working because the
> metacity-1 and gtk-2.0 directories are missing. In most cases the files
> are just sittin
Michiel Sikma wrote:
Huh. How can the themes not be included correctly when
there are only two days left before launch?
That was why we asked for a community decision may 15th, not May 24th
:-)
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Op 29-mei-2006, om 15:02 heeft Daniel Holbach het volgende geschreven:
I didn't get a link to a Human Legacy tarball, so I couldn't get it
in.
Sorry.
Human Legacy was voted for by the art team. It's also considered by
many to be imperative to the integrity of Ubuntu's compatibility.
I d
OK, thanks Daniel. I filed a bug on LP. Tried to forward it to the
devels list but no luck, I'm not a member of it.
https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-artwork/+bug/47281
Chuck
p.s. It's ubuntu-artwork_27_all that has the problem.
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 15:02 +0200, Daniel Holba
Hello everybody,
Am Montag, den 29.05.2006, 05:08 -0700 schrieb Chuck Huber:
> Wow. After looking into it, the new themes aren't working because the
> metacity-1 and gtk-2.0 directories are missing. In most cases the files
> are just sitting in the top level directory.
I'll dive into it and mak
Hello everybody,
Am Montag, den 29.05.2006, 04:31 -0700 schrieb Chuck Huber:
> But they need work. It appears none except Human is working properly.
>
> IndustrialXT looks like it's made it in though I don't see Human Legacy.
I didn't get a link to a Human Legacy tarball, so I couldn't get it i
On 5/29/06, Michiel Sikma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Op 29-mei-2006, om 14:14 heeft Chuck Huber het volgende geschreven:
> On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 05:08 -0700, Chuck Huber wrote:
>
>> Here's something I think is new also. Metatheme files don't show
>> up as
>> index.theme anymore. Now they go b
I am passing this on the the developers list now. Looks like
ubuntu-art_27 has some problems. Theme directories are being built
flat. I'll file a bug on LP shortly.
Chuck
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 05:08 -0700, Chuck Huber wrote:
> Wow. After looking into it, the new themes aren't working because t
On 5/29/06, Chuck Huber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ok, the GTK is fixed but something strange is still happening. The
metacity produces a black version of the previous border on the 3 boxes
I tested it on.
Looks like it's calling Candido-Selected and although that is the name
of the metacity in
Op 29-mei-2006, om 14:14 heeft Chuck Huber het volgende geschreven:
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 05:08 -0700, Chuck Huber wrote:
Here's something I think is new also. Metatheme files don't show
up as
index.theme anymore. Now they go by the Name= field.
Looking at them in Nautilus and a termina
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 05:08 -0700, Chuck Huber wrote:
> Here's something I think is new also. Metatheme files don't show up as
> index.theme anymore. Now they go by the Name= field.
Looking at them in Nautilus and a terminal at the same time is very
disconcerting so beware. :/
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Wow. After looking into it, the new themes aren't working because the
metacity-1 and gtk-2.0 directories are missing. In most cases the files
are just sitting in the top level directory.
Here's something I think is new also. Metatheme files don't show up as
index.theme anymore. Now they go by
Hello,
We should drop gnome-theme package from ubuntu-meta.
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Op 29-mei-2006, om 13:49 heeft Chuck Huber het volgende geschreven:
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 04:31 -0700, Chuck Huber wrote:
But they need work. It appears none except Human is working
properly.
IndustrialXT looks like it's made it in though I don't see Human
Legacy.
Dawn of Ubuntu and Si
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 04:31 -0700, Chuck Huber wrote:
> But they need work. It appears none except Human is working properly.
>
> IndustrialXT looks like it's made it in though I don't see Human Legacy.
>
> Dawn of Ubuntu and Simple Ubuntu wallpapers are installed but not
> Chocolate.
>
> And I
But they need work. It appears none except Human is working properly.
IndustrialXT looks like it's made it in though I don't see Human Legacy.
Dawn of Ubuntu and Simple Ubuntu wallpapers are installed but not
Chocolate.
And I haven't rebooted to see if the Tangerine usplash is there yet.
Chuck
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 01:41 -0500, Billy wrote:
> On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 01:51 +0200, iacopo masi wrote:
> > I'm thinking about Edgy future artwork and Dapper has close the
> > Human theme cyles.
> > With edgy there will be a new reinvented from skratch artwork.
> > I like very much the new Orange
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