Re: [ubuntu-art] Inconsistence of gradients and artwork colors

2006-04-04 Thread bvc
Daniel Borgmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 4/4/06, bvc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Yes, it doesn't look good, but neither does it look good square else we> wouldn't be having this discussion. Look at how the industrial engine deals> with it. Everything is round but there are no gaps.Which is a p

[ubuntu-art] // Flight6 Artwork: First Impressions //

2006-04-04 Thread Julian Oliver
(Disclaimer: I know this is far from a final release, and that the artwork is also experimental at this state. It even says so in the login graphic! These are my immediate thoughts, straight of the chest and written as I played around) After booting the LiveCD I was initially impressed by the

Re: [ubuntu-art] Inconsistence of gradients and artwork colors

2006-04-04 Thread Étienne Bersac
Hello, Very good job. I'm stutter between first and last. Étienne. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: (Yet another) new logout dialog

2006-04-04 Thread Victoria Greeven
moin moin ;-) I am such an user, who doesn't know the difference - and I tell you - I am confused about that really big Logout-"picture" with so many options. In Germany we sometimes say "weniger ist mehr" (less is more) and so I agree with Henrik. Those users, who want to use "hibernate" will

Re: [ubuntu-art] request: tango style synaptic icons

2006-04-04 Thread Corey Burger
> How about something along the lines of this: > http://ramnet.se/~nisse/diverse/temp/synaptic-proposal.png ? > Installed packages are in color, uninstalled packages are in monocrome > and toned down. > > The good thing about this solution is that the shapes are more > distinguishable this way, t

Re: [ubuntu-art] request: tango style synaptic icons

2006-04-04 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Sebastian Heinlein wrote: hello, I "designed" the original package status icons in synaptic. It would be nice if someone could do some tango styled ones. The icons have to reflect the status of the package: [snip] New icons don't need to follow my old metaphor: At the moment I use a fil

Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: (Yet another) new logout dialog

2006-04-04 Thread Jean-Denis Vauguet
Mark Shuttleworth a écrit : > Henrik Nilsen Omma wrote: >> IMO it would be best to only show one of these options to the average >> user. (It would be useful to have some real-world data on which of >> these people use most often -- sleep I guess -- and how many people >> regularly use both options

Re: [ubuntu-art] Inconsistence of gradients and artwork colors

2006-04-04 Thread Dennis Kaarsemaker
On di, 2006-04-04 at 23:54 +0200, Richard Stellingwerff wrote: > I've made a few new mockups: > http://stellingwerff.com/ubuntu-art/sb.png The first one, definitely :) -- Dennis K. - Linux for human beings - http://www.ubuntu.com - Linux voor iedereen - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org signature.as

Re: [ubuntu-art] Inconsistence of gradients and artwork colors

2006-04-04 Thread Richard Stellingwerff
On 4/4/06, Mark Shuttleworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >bvc wrote: > Yes, it doesn't look good, but neither does it look good square else we > wouldn't be having this discussion. Look at how the industrial engine deals > with it. Everything is round but there are no gaps. > > > I

Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: (Yet another) new logout dialog

2006-04-04 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Mark Shuttleworth wrote: Henrik Nilsen Omma wrote: IMO it would be best to only show one of these options to the average user. (It would be useful to have some real-world data on which of these people use most often -- sleep I guess -- and how many people regularly use both options. Except the

Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: (Yet another) new logout dialog

2006-04-04 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Henrik Nilsen Omma wrote: IMO it would be best to only show one of these options to the average user. (It would be useful to have some real-world data on which of these people use most often -- sleep I guess -- and how many people regularly use both options. Except there's a darn good reaso

Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: (Yet another) new logout dialog

2006-04-04 Thread Henrik Nilsen Omma
Andy Somerville wrote: I think theres hardly anyone (who doesnt know beforehand) who thinks the hibernate/sleep functionality is clear. Maybe its been suggested before, but should we consider renaming these? (regardless of what other changes are made) IMO it would be best to only show one of th

Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: (Yet another) new logout dialog

2006-04-04 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Manu Cornet wrote: As a matter of fact, I seldom do mere mockups, most of the time I also write actual patches (and I sent this one to Seb by email along with those captures) :) Seems like it is on its way to be uploaded soon. Rock star :-) Huh, did I misunderstand the meaning of "fac

Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: (Yet another) new logout dialog

2006-04-04 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Eric Feliksik wrote: Matthew East wrote: Just to stick in two more cents, I agree with mpt: a logout dialogue that needs explanatory text is _really_ doing something wrong. The labels and the icons should be clear enough. Matt Ok, but then the real quest

Re: [ubuntu-art] Inconsistence of gradients and artwork colors

2006-04-04 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
bvc wrote: Yes, it doesn't look good, but neither does it look good square else we wouldn't be having this discussion. Look at how the industrial engine deals with it. Everything is round but there are no gaps. I don't like the fake solution - let's see a mockup with square steppers and round

Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: (Yet another) new logout dialog

2006-04-04 Thread Manu Cornet
Hi ! > > http://www.manucornet.net/ubuntu/dev/dialog.png > > http://www.manucornet.net/ubuntu/dev/logout.png > > http://www.manucornet.net/ubuntu/dev/hibernate.png > Interesting! > > I quite like the explanatory text. Daniel, is that easy to factor in? As a matter of fact, I seldo

Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: (Yet another) new logout dialog

2006-04-04 Thread Who
On 4/4/06, Petr Tomeš <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2006/4/4, Sandis Neilands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I agree with you. So far i haven't seen any advantage in using > > ubuntu's custom logout instead of gnome's default. I know this is > > unpopular but > > 1) If the new logout doesn't solve more (o

Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: (Yet another) new logout dialog

2006-04-04 Thread Petr Tomeš
2006/4/4, Sandis Neilands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I agree with you. So far i haven't seen any advantage in using > ubuntu's custom logout instead of gnome's default. I know this is > unpopular but > 1) If the new logout doesn't solve more (or more important) problems > than it creates or > 2) we are

Re: [ubuntu-art] Inconsistence of gradients and artwork colors

2006-04-04 Thread Petr Tomeš
2006/4/4, Daniel Borgmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Which is a primary reason why I couldn't stand Industrial anymore and > was hoping for something like Clearlooks to show up, which uses > roundness in a more sensible way. A agree with you. I have been still hoping for Clearlooks direction (using ro

Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: (Yet another) new logout dialog

2006-04-04 Thread Sandis Neilands
Hello! On 4/4/06, Eric Feliksik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok, but then the real question is, then: Do you think it's clear, now? > Do you think Aunt Tilly understands the difference between hibernation, > shutdown and sleep? Logout and switch user? > > I personally don't think so. So we either

Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: (Yet another) new logout dialog

2006-04-04 Thread Eric Feliksik
Matthew East wrote: Just to stick in two more cents, I agree with mpt: a logout dialogue that needs explanatory text is _really_ doing something wrong. The labels and the icons should be clear enough. Matt Ok, but then the real question is, then: Do you think it's clear, now? Do you think Au

Re: [ubuntu-art] Inconsistence of gradients and artwork colors

2006-04-04 Thread Daniel Borgmann
On 4/4/06, bvc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, it doesn't look good, but neither does it look good square else we > wouldn't be having this discussion. Look at how the industrial engine deals > with it. Everything is round but there are no gaps. Which is a primary reason why I couldn't stand Ind

Re: [ubuntu-art] Inconsistence of gradients and artwork colors

2006-04-04 Thread bvc
Yes, it doesn't look good, but neither does it look good square else we wouldn't be having this discussion. Look at how the industrial engine deals with it. Everything is round but there are no gaps.BillyMark Shuttleworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:bvc wrote: Let's not forget the range slide

Re: [ubuntu-art] request: tango style synaptic icons

2006-04-04 Thread Josué Alcalde González
El mar, 04-04-2006 a las 13:12 +1000, Pascal Klein escribió: > On Mon, 2006-04-03 at 22:49 +0200, Étienne Bersac wrote: > > Hello, > > > > > The supported status icons aren't to good, and they are only a > > > proof of > > > concept. Perhaps, when a water mark icon they could look ok, but I >

[ubuntu-art] Re: (Yet another) new logout dialog

2006-04-04 Thread Who
> > > > * "Log out" as the name of the menu entry is definitely misleading, and > > we're trying to find the best wording to replace it (suggestions > > welcome !). How about 'Leave the Computer' -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubun

Re: [ubuntu-art] Re: (Yet another) new logout dialog

2006-04-04 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Manu Cornet wrote: Here's a new version of the dialog : http://www.manucornet.net/ubuntu/dev/dialog.png http://www.manucornet.net/ubuntu/dev/logout.png http://www.manucornet.net/ubuntu/dev/hibernate.png Interesting! Many people found that the dialog was too large ; therefore, I stack

Re: [ubuntu-art] Inconsistence of gradients and artwork colors

2006-04-04 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Henrik Nilsen Omma wrote: Here is a mock-up to illustrate: http://people.ubuntu.com/~henrik/images/rounded-progress.png I appreciate where that's going, but I think it looks wrong because the lines on the progressbar are themselves vertical and straight. So let's leave that one for now. The

Re: [ubuntu-art] Inconsistence of gradients and artwork colors

2006-04-04 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
bvc wrote: Let's not forget the range slider trough http://kwh.kernow-gb.com/~bvc/dapper-xubu/progress-scroll-trough.png This has the problem Richard identified, that when the scrollbar is all the way up or down, you have a rounded scrollbar against a rounded stepper, which looks bong :-)

Re: [ubuntu-art] Inconsistence of gradients and artwork colors

2006-04-04 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Daniel Borgmann wrote: On 4/3/06, Mark Shuttleworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: While we are here I'm reminded of one additional thing I'd like to see mocked up. On the scrollbars, the white tips at each end might look even better if they had slightly rounded corners like the slide

Re: [ubuntu-art] can glassy and caramel be combined? [was: Inconsistence of gradients and artwork colors]

2006-04-04 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Eric Feliksik wrote: In a matter of taste, I understand the sabdfl has the final word... However, maybe I can make him see the light: I would never claim to have perfect taste, and I am certainly looking for someone who is better qualified to step up and be hired as the art director for Ubu

Re: [ubuntu-art] request: tango style synaptic icons

2006-04-04 Thread Pascal Klein
On Mon, 2006-04-03 at 22:49 +0200, Étienne Bersac wrote: > Hello, > > > The supported status icons aren't to good, and they are only a > > proof of > > concept. Perhaps, when a water mark icon they could look ok, but I > > think > > they won't with 16x16 size. > > > > Very nice. But clearly