Re: [twsocket] HttpCli: Opinion wanted !

2005-08-31 Thread Alejandra Rico
tauro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "ICS support mailing" Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 09:43 AM Subject: Re: [twsocket] HttpCli: Opinion wanted ! > Scrive Tibor Csonka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> Hi, >> >> I was reading the thread for a while, and my oppini

Re: [twsocket] HttpCli: Opinion wanted !

2005-08-31 Thread Maurizio Lotauro
Scrive Tibor Csonka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, > > I was reading the thread for a while, and my oppinion is that the design is > very ok. I mean it makes the thing extensible and it's also clean and > elegant. Thank you :-) > My only concern is: is there any other encoding than gzip/deflate? Be

Re: [twsocket] HttpCli: Opinion wanted !

2005-08-31 Thread Tibor Csonka
s not available for older Delphi versions? Regards, -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Guillaume MAISON Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 10:30 AM To: ICS support mailing Subject: Re: [twsocket] HttpCli: Opinion wanted ! Tibor Csonka a écrit

Re: [twsocket] HttpCli: Opinion wanted !

2005-08-31 Thread Guillaume MAISON
Tibor Csonka a écrit : > I was reading the thread for a while, and my oppinion is that the design is > very ok. I mean it makes the thing extensible and it's also clean and > elegant. > > My only concern is: is there any other encoding than gzip/deflate? Because I > cannot think of one ... None i

Re: [twsocket] HttpCli: Opinion wanted !

2005-08-31 Thread Tibor Csonka
Hi, I was reading the thread for a while, and my oppinion is that the design is very ok. I mean it makes the thing extensible and it's also clean and elegant. My only concern is: is there any other encoding than gzip/deflate? Because I cannot think of one ... Regards, Tibor Csonka -- To unsubs

Re: [twsocket] HttpCli: Opinion wanted !

2005-08-29 Thread Dan
- Original Message - From: "Guillaume MAISON" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "ICS support mailing" Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 12:48 PM Subject: Re: [twsocket] HttpCli: Opinion wanted ! >hmmm... never meant it would be easy to implement, but to use... >

Re: [twsocket] HttpCli: Opinion wanted !

2005-08-29 Thread Francois Piette
> > Dropping the component on a form and yet having it > > registered need a litle bit of work in the Loaded > > procedure. Have a look at RBRoker.pas, TServerObject.Loaded. The line > > calling > > AddServerObjectWithReference does the work. > > hmmm... never meant it would be easy to implement

Re: [twsocket] HttpCli: Opinion wanted !

2005-08-29 Thread Guillaume MAISON
Francois Piette a écrit : >> >>Well to make it simple : >>you have a server object (in that case THttpCli). >>for each Coding way, you have defined a class : >>TGZipCoding, TMyOwnEncoding, ... >> >>then, when configuring your THttpCli component, you call a function to >>"register" each Coding class

[twsocket] HttpCli: Opinion wanted !

2005-08-29 Thread Francois Piette
> > Do you mean the ClientClass property of THttpServer? > > The situation is quite different. You need a list of different > > decoders, and you don't know in advance how long this list could be > > (it depend of the kind of decoders available). > > > >>i'd say that i would have used something lik

Re: [twsocket] HttpCli: Opinion wanted !

2005-08-17 Thread Maurizio Lotauro
On 17-Aug-05 10:32:00 Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd wrote: >> How do you think that all we heavily tested for weeks if nobody, >> except the developer(s), made any test? >I only have a single development environment, and I need to be able to >produce bug fix versions of several applicatio

Re: [twsocket] HttpCli: Opinion wanted !

2005-08-17 Thread Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd
> > The question is whether current users that need new features should > > suffer to keep those one or two users on obsolete compilers happy. > > You are wrong. Current user doesn't suffer because of old compiler > support. Never. Sorry, I disagree. Whenever I make improvements to ICS source,

Re: [twsocket] HttpCli: Opinion wanted !

2005-08-17 Thread Arno Garrels
Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd wrote: >> Anyway, search for the message with subject "Re: [twsocket] Installing >> ICS under windows 3.11" >> posted earlier today and you have one recent user still using Delphi 1. > > No-one is going to stop people using old ICS versions on old compilers. >

Re: [twsocket] HttpCli: Opinion wanted !

2005-08-17 Thread Francois PIETTE
> The question is whether current users that need new features should > suffer to keep those one or two users on obsolete compilers happy. You are wrong. Current user doesn't suffer because of old compiler support. Never. > Borland stops support of old compilers very quickly, even > Delphi 7 is

Re: [twsocket] HttpCli: Opinion wanted !

2005-08-17 Thread Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd
> Anyway, search for the message with subject "Re: [twsocket] Installing > ICS under windows 3.11" > posted earlier today and you have one recent user still using Delphi 1. No-one is going to stop people using old ICS versions on old compilers. If such users really need bug fixes they can always

Re: [twsocket] HttpCli: Opinion wanted !

2005-08-17 Thread Kim Mølgård Nielsen
17, 2005 3:00 PM Subject: [ZS2] Re: [twsocket] HttpCli: Opinion wanted ! > > Because there are still a lot of people using old compilers, > > frequently to maintain existing > > applications but also to develop new ones, even with Delphi 1 which is > > used for embedded s

Re: [twsocket] HttpCli: Opinion wanted !

2005-08-17 Thread Fastream Technologies
is simply "business at the speed of thought"! Thanks, SZ - Original Message - From: "Guillaume MAISON" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "ICS support mailing" Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 5:04 PM Subject: Re: [twsocket] HttpCli: Opinion wanted ! Fastream Tec

Re: [twsocket] HttpCli: Opinion wanted !

2005-08-17 Thread Peter Van Hove
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Re: [twsocket] HttpCli: Opinion wanted !

2005-08-17 Thread Guillaume MAISON
Fastream Technologies a écrit : > This time I second Agnus. No professional coder would use a compiler from > last decade and if an amateur wants to do so, he/she should be happy with an > old ICS release version. > > There needs to be a time that we look further into the future and leave the >

Re: [twsocket] HttpCli: Opinion wanted !

2005-08-17 Thread Fastream Technologies
stuck in the past. Best Regards, SubZ - Original Message - From: "Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 4:00 PM Subject: Re: [twsocket] HttpCli: Opinion wanted ! >> Because there are still a lot of peop

Re: [twsocket] HttpCli: Opinion wanted !

2005-08-17 Thread Francois Piette
> OK, can all those in this list using Delphi compilers earlier than > Delphi 5, Delphi 1 in particular, please respond to this message and > indicate why you want to continue using a six to 10 year old compiler > with the latest bugs and features for ICS? That's not the issue. And you will not ha

Re: [twsocket] HttpCli: Opinion wanted !

2005-08-17 Thread Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd
> Because there are still a lot of people using old compilers, > frequently to maintain existing > applications but also to develop new ones, even with Delphi 1 which is > used for embedded systems using Win 3.x !! OK, can all those in this list using Delphi compilers earlier than Delphi 5, Del

Re: [twsocket] HttpCli: Opinion wanted !

2005-08-17 Thread Francois Piette
> So if you don't want to support obsolete compilers, why if it necessary > to make the code compatible with obsolete compilers? This is a > contradition. No because there is only one distribution and one source code set. > Sorry, but you continue to evade the real question here, why continue >

Re: [twsocket] HttpCli: Opinion wanted !

2005-08-17 Thread Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd
>> You personally agreed a year ago that the current released version of >> ICS would be last to continue support for long obsoleted compilers. > Yes, and this is what I stated again in my previous message. >> Who are these people that actually need to use new versions of ICS on >> Delphi 1 to 3?

Re: [twsocket] HttpCli: Opinion wanted !

2005-08-17 Thread Francois Piette
> > Don't go too fast to remove existing code because then > > it will be very difficult to merge your > > changes and those from others including me. Risks are > > that you either have to reimplement your > > changes in the next version or that you take a one way > > ticket to your own version di

Re: [twsocket] HttpCli: Opinion wanted !

2005-08-17 Thread Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd
> Don't go too fast to remove existing code because then it will be very > difficult to merge your > changes and those from others including me. Risks are that you either > have to reimplement your > changes in the next version or that you take a one way ticket to your > own version diverging fr

Re: [twsocket] HttpCli: Opinion wanted !

2005-08-17 Thread Francois Piette
> I'm also going to try to add > ZLIB compression to the FTP client and server, at the same time as > adding 64-bit stream support and removing support for long obsolete > compilers. Don't go too fast to remove existing code because then it will be very difficult to merge your changes and those

Re: [twsocket] HttpCli: Opinion wanted !

2005-08-17 Thread Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd
> How do you think that all we heavily tested for weeks if nobody, > except the developer(s), made any test? I only have a single development environment, and I need to be able to produce bug fix versions of several applications at short notice, often hours, that get widely distributed within ho

Re: [twsocket] HttpCli: Opinion wanted !

2005-08-16 Thread Maurizio Lotauro
On 16-Aug-05 16:30:00 Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd wrote: >> 1. Your choice. You have now the opportunity to be sure the new >> version doesn't break existing code, specially yours. >No, it's the job of the person introducing the changes to make sure the >component is backward compatibl

Re: [twsocket] HttpCli: Opinion wanted !

2005-08-16 Thread Maurizio Lotauro
On 16-Aug-05 14:21:00 Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd wrote: >> If you don't understand what we are talking about, please ask some >> questions to clarify. There are no stupid question, only people afraid >> to ask. >I've not taken much notice of this because: >1 - the authentication chang

Re: [twsocket] HttpCli: Opinion wanted !

2005-08-16 Thread Wilfried Mestdagh
Hello Angus, > No, it's the job of the person introducing the changes to make sure the > component is backward compatible, and if not, document VERY CLEARLY at > the top of the code any implications of the changes, not just in this > mailing list. And to clearly mark and date and changes. Agree

Re: [twsocket] HttpCli: Opinion wanted !

2005-08-16 Thread Francois PIETTE
>> 1. Your choice. You have now the opportunity to be sure the new >> version doesn't break existing code, specially yours. > No, it's the job of the person introducing the changes to make sure the > component is backward compatible, and if not, document VERY CLEARLY at > the top of the code any

Re: [twsocket] HttpCli: Opinion wanted !

2005-08-16 Thread Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd
> 1. Your choice. You have now the opportunity to be sure the new > version doesn't break existing code, specially yours. No, it's the job of the person introducing the changes to make sure the component is backward compatible, and if not, document VERY CLEARLY at the top of the code any impli

Re: [twsocket] HttpCli: Opinion wanted !

2005-08-16 Thread Francois Piette
2005 3:21 PM Subject: Re: [twsocket] HttpCli: Opinion wanted ! > > If you don't understand what we are talking about, please ask some > > questions to clarify. There are no stupid question, only people afraid > > to ask. > > I've not taken much notice of thi

Re: [twsocket] HttpCli: Opinion wanted !

2005-08-16 Thread Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd
> If you don't understand what we are talking about, please ask some > questions to clarify. There are no stupid question, only people afraid > to ask. I've not taken much notice of this because: 1 - the authentication change to HttpCli broke one of my applications and it cost a lot of money t

[twsocket] HttpCli: Opinion wanted !

2005-08-15 Thread Francois PIETTE
Please read the messages with subject "[twsocket] HttpCli content encoding". We (Maurizio and I at least) would like to have your opinion about the future version of the HTTP component. There are implementation details that has to be choozen. We need input from you, the users ! If you don't unde