Re: [twsocket] [OT] Borland Turbo

2006-09-08 Thread Francois Piette
> > Maybe you could also directly write the help text in > > http://wiki.overbyte.be. You can write whatever part you feel confortable > > with. Other people will complete. For example - do not take this as an > > offence but an example - you can read Delphi source code but don't know > > anything

Re: [twsocket] [OT] Borland Turbo

2006-09-08 Thread Mohit Sindhwani
Francois Piette wrote: >> As regards this point, I will be happy to help out with fixing the >> English in any ICS documentation that is done. I have previously worked >> with people who have written documentation in their language, then used >> a web translator to convert that into English. Th

Re: [twsocket] [OT] Borland Turbo

2006-09-08 Thread Francois Piette
> As regards this point, I will be happy to help out with fixing the > English in any ICS documentation that is done. I have previously worked > with people who have written documentation in their language, then used > a web translator to convert that into English. This English is funny at > best

Re: [twsocket] [OT] Borland Turbo

2006-09-08 Thread Mohit Sindhwani
Arno Garrels wrote: > Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd wrote: > >> Since all the VCL source is supplied, I guess Borland could skip help >> completely. >> > > Borlands online help is far more than a nicely designed, colored table > of function and property names. > > >>> Yes, be

Re: [twsocket] [OT] Borland Turbo

2006-09-08 Thread Arno Garrels
Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd wrote: > Since all the VCL source is supplied, I guess Borland could skip help > completely. Borlands online help is far more than a nicely designed, colored table of function and property names. >> Yes, because it is a huge effort to write and maintain a go

Re: [twsocket] [OT] Borland Turbo

2006-09-08 Thread Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd
> Have you ever had a look at the d7indy.hlp? This automatically > created documentation looks great but is virtually useless. But it was sufficient for Borland to build Indy into Delphi, and it thus has far more users than ICS. It is very easy to add extra comments into the interface section, w

Re: [twsocket] [OT] Borland Turbo

2006-09-08 Thread Paul
> I'm not against a well done documentation, but it would just increase > the number of 'passive' users. ICS benefits from its active users, > those trying to understand what's going on under the hood contributing > new features or bugfixes. Hi Arno, I have to disagree on this. With good documenta

Re: [twsocket] [OT] Borland Turbo

2006-09-08 Thread Arno Garrels
Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd wrote: >> I wonder why Overbyte does not give the ICS code to be included in >> the standard package? > > Borland will never package ICS in Delphi without proper documentation > and a full and up to date help file, Have you ever had a look at the d7indy.hlp?

Re: [twsocket] [OT] Borland Turbo

2006-09-07 Thread Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd
> I wonder why Overbyte does not give the ICS code to be included in > the standard package? Borland will never package ICS in Delphi without proper documentation and a full and up to date help file, and that's as far off as ever. It should not even be on the companion disks without documentat

Re: [twsocket] [OT] Borland Turbo

2006-09-07 Thread Ian Tuck
>> I'm really sad for Borland another chance stupidly wasted... Who >> was the genius that "creates" the "non-extensibility idioturbo model" I totally disagree. This is an awesome *FREE* deal for people who want to start to develop their own apps, or create "quick-and-dirty" tools. The c

Re: [twsocket] [OT] Borland Turbo

2006-09-07 Thread Fastream Technologies
I wonder why Overbyte does not give the ICS code to be included in the standard package? Regards, SZ - Original Message - From: "Pablo Harguindey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "ICS support mailing" Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 10:25 PM Subject: Re: [tw

Re: [twsocket] [OT] Borland Turbo

2006-09-07 Thread Pablo Harguindey
---Mensaje original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd Enviado el: Jueves, 07 de Septiembre de 2006 17:08 Para: twsocket@elists.org Asunto: Re: [twsocket] [OT] Borland Turbo > That's amazing! An excellent tool for &q

Re: [twsocket] [OT] Borland Turbo

2006-09-07 Thread Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd
> That's amazing! An excellent tool for "beginners" that requires a > (somewhat) deep knowledge only to use another set of components!! The beginners are not expected to be creating complex applications needing third party components with the 'free' version, they are expected to buy Turbo Profe

Re: [twsocket] [OT] Borland Turbo

2006-09-07 Thread Pablo Harguindey
CTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Arno Garrels Enviado el: Jueves, 07 de Septiembre de 2006 16:11 Para: ICS support mailing Asunto: Re: [twsocket] [OT] Borland Turbo Jack wrote: > If you think about it, the whole point of having the free version > is to get people interested and get b

Re: [twsocket] [OT] Borland Turbo

2006-09-07 Thread Francois PIETTE
>> Hi! I was just reading the press release about the Borland Turbo >> products.. just started to download it (it's a lot!) but the Explore >> Edition is free (I think even for commercial apps) and I was wondering >> if anyone got their hands onto it before me! Any idea if the ICS will >> work wi

Re: [twsocket] [OT] Borland Turbo

2006-09-07 Thread Arno Garrels
Jack wrote: > If you think about it, the whole point of having the free version > is to get people interested and get beginners started. Now they have > to create the components by code ... wise decision :) [OT] I agree with you. Especially the beginners use to use plenty of third party components

Re: [twsocket] [OT] Borland Turbo

2006-09-07 Thread Francois PIETTE
>> Hi! I was just reading the press release about the Borland Turbo >> products.. just started to download it (it's a lot!) but the Explore >> Edition is free (I think even for commercial apps) and I was wondering >> if anyone got their hands onto it before me! Any idea if the ICS will >> work wi

Re: [twsocket] [OT] Borland Turbo

2006-09-07 Thread Maurizio Lotauro
Scrive Mohit Sindhwani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi! I was just reading the press release about the Borland Turbo > products.. just started to download it (it's a lot!) but the Explore > Edition is free (I think even for commercial apps) and I was wondering > if anyone got their hands onto it bef

Re: [twsocket] [OT] Borland Turbo

2006-09-07 Thread Francois PIETTE
> I'm really sad for Borland another chance stupidly wasted... who > was the genius that "creates" the "non-extensibility idioturbo model" > > Only for programmers that likes to run in a closet There are two Turbo versions: Explorer and Pro. Explorer is free of charge but can't be extended w

Re: [twsocket] [OT] Borland Turbo

2006-09-07 Thread Jack
e 2006 14:55 > Para: ICS support mailing > Asunto: Re: [twsocket] [OT] Borland Turbo > Scrive Mohit Sindhwani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Hi! I was just reading the press release about the Borland Turbo >> products.. just started to download it (it's a lot!) but the

Re: [twsocket] [OT] Borland Turbo

2006-09-07 Thread Pablo Harguindey
ombre de Maurizio Lotauro Enviado el: Jueves, 07 de Septiembre de 2006 14:55 Para: ICS support mailing Asunto: Re: [twsocket] [OT] Borland Turbo Scrive Mohit Sindhwani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi! I was just reading the press release about the Borland Turbo > products.. just started

Re: [twsocket] [OT] Borland Turbo

2006-09-07 Thread Johnnie Norsworthy
You can create the ICS components at run-time and set properties as needed. The only thing that usually causes problems is knowing event signatures. -Johnnie Norsworthy -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://www.elists.org/mailman/listinfo/twsocket

Re: [twsocket] [OT] Borland Turbo

2006-09-07 Thread Mohit Sindhwani
Arno Garrels wrote: > Mohit Sindhwani wrote: > >> Hi! I was just reading the press release about the Borland Turbo >> products.. just started to download it (it's a lot!) but the Explore >> Edition is free (I think even for commercial apps) and I was wondering >> if anyone got their hands ont

Re: [twsocket] [OT] Borland Turbo

2006-09-07 Thread Arno Garrels
Mohit Sindhwani wrote: > Hi! I was just reading the press release about the Borland Turbo > products.. just started to download it (it's a lot!) but the Explore > Edition is free (I think even for commercial apps) and I was wondering > if anyone got their hands onto it before me! Any idea if the

[twsocket] [OT] Borland Turbo

2006-09-07 Thread Mohit Sindhwani
Hi! I was just reading the press release about the Borland Turbo products.. just started to download it (it's a lot!) but the Explore Edition is free (I think even for commercial apps) and I was wondering if anyone got their hands onto it before me! Any idea if the ICS will work with it? In