Re: [Twisted-Python] Notes from Twisted BoF at PyCon 2013

2013-03-25 Thread exarkun
Thanks for taking those notes, Itamar. I copied the summary onto the wiki and fleshed out the ideas a bit: https://twistedmatrix.com/trac/wiki/Fellowship2013/Priorities Jean-Paul ___ Twisted-Python mailing list Twisted-Python@twistedmatrix.com http://

Re: [Twisted-Python] Testing Twisted code without trial

2013-03-25 Thread exarkun
On 18 Mar, 07:32 pm, a...@roiban.ro wrote: >On 22 January 2013 22:03, wrote: >>On 09:29 am, a...@roiban.ro wrote: >>>On 22 January 2013 02:21, wrote: On 20 Jan, 02:35 pm, a...@roiban.ro wrote: > >I agree that this is a ugly hack and I removed the project. >> >>Hi Adi, >> >>trial does what i

Re: [Twisted-Python] So... Python 3.4 is getting its own async I/O system

2013-03-25 Thread Peter Westlake
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013, at 9:36, Glyph wrote: ... > Since async file I/O is not a thing you can implement[1], ... > > [1]: Understood that it isn't possible to use native asynchronous I/O. But an implementation that used threads behind the

Re: [Twisted-Python] Lore and generating reStructuredText (Lore2Sphinx)

2013-03-25 Thread Kevin Horn
On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Glyph wrote: > > On Mar 21, 2013, at 7:17 AM, Kevin Horn wrote: > > Notice that the node trees look exactly the same. Now this is not quite > true, as there's probably some attributes on the actual Python nodes that > might be used to distinguish them when writi

[Twisted-Python] Twisted dinner pictures

2013-03-25 Thread Hynek Schlawack
Hi, As you may have noticed, I'm building a little page to show off that PyCon wasn't about donglegate. http://thisispycon.com I would love to post about our little dinner and would be delighted if anyone having pics AND quotes could forward them to me. Same goes for sprints etc, flood me! Ch

Re: [Twisted-Python] So... Python 3.4 is getting its own async I/O system

2013-03-25 Thread Itamar Turner-Trauring
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Peter Westlake wrote: > Understood that it isn't possible to use native asynchronous I/O. But an > implementation that used threads behind the scenes and returned a > Deferred (for small files) or a Protocol (for big ones) would be a nice > thing to have. > For s

Re: [Twisted-Python] So... Python 3.4 is getting its own async I/O system

2013-03-25 Thread Tobias Oberstein
> > Will this tackle async file I/O also or only network? > > > Since async file I/O is not a thing you can implement[1], presumably it will > only > be networking. > Ok, so AIO is broken on Linux both implementation- and API-wise, but Windows/IOCP and/or *BSD/kqueue might be a different stor

Re: [Twisted-Python] So... Python 3.4 is getting its own async I/O system

2013-03-25 Thread Tobias Oberstein
> > Since async file I/O is not a thing you can implement[1], ... > > > > [1]: > > Understood that it isn't possible to use native asynchronous I/O. But an > implementation that used threads behind the scenes and returned a Deferred > (for

Re: [Twisted-Python] So... Python 3.4 is getting its own async I/O system

2013-03-25 Thread Glyph
On Mar 25, 2013, at 8:59 AM, Peter Westlake wrote: > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013, at 9:36, Glyph wrote: > ... >> Since async file I/O is not a thing you can implement[1], ... >> >> [1]: > > Understood that it isn't possible to use native asyn

Re: [Twisted-Python] So... Python 3.4 is getting its own async I/O system

2013-03-25 Thread exarkun
On 07:47 pm, ita...@futurefoundries.com wrote: >On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Peter Westlake >wrote: >>Understood that it isn't possible to use native asynchronous I/O. But >>an >>implementation that used threads behind the scenes and returned a >>Deferred (for small files) or a Protocol (for

Re: [Twisted-Python] Notes from Twisted BoF at PyCon 2013

2013-03-25 Thread Glyph
On Mar 25, 2013, at 6:38 AM, exar...@twistedmatrix.com wrote: > Thanks for taking those notes, Itamar. > > I copied the summary onto the wiki and fleshed out the ideas a bit: > > https://twistedmatrix.com/trac/wiki/Fellowship2013/Priorities > > Jean-Paul Thanks to both of you for getting this

Re: [Twisted-Python] Testing Twisted code without trial

2013-03-25 Thread Glyph
On Mar 25, 2013, at 6:48 AM, exar...@twistedmatrix.com wrote: > * with returning a `Deferred` from a test method (which works even if > you don't use trial to run your tests - but not if you don't subclass > trial's `TestCase`). We eventually moved on from this idea, though many > parts of T

Re: [Twisted-Python] Lore and generating reStructuredText (Lore2Sphinx)

2013-03-25 Thread Glyph
On Mar 25, 2013, at 9:16 AM, Kevin Horn wrote: > How can you tell that this was created by a directive? You can't, because it > could just as easily have been a list full of links to begin with. But, I don't care if it was created by a directive or not. I think we're talking about two differ