Re: [Twisted-Python] web vs web2 clarification

2009-12-11 Thread sstein...@gmail.com
On Dec 11, 2009, at 12:02 PM, Jared Gisin wrote: > I'm interested in a true twisted HTTP/1.1 protocol implementation that > is robust and clean. I have no use for any browser/HTML/CGI realted mix > in stuff. I consider all of that as frosting on top of the HTTP layer, > so I'm trying to produce a

Re: [Twisted-Python] web vs web2 clarification

2009-12-11 Thread Jared Gisin
dmatrix.com] On Behalf Of James Y Knight Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 3:36 PM To: Twisted general discussion Subject: Re: [Twisted-Python] web vs web2 clarification On Dec 10, 2009, at 5:29 PM, Mikhail Terekhov wrote: > That is all true but it is very close to Joel's reasoning, kind of

Re: [Twisted-Python] web vs web2 clarification

2009-12-10 Thread James Y Knight
On Dec 10, 2009, at 5:29 PM, Mikhail Terekhov wrote: > That is all true but it is very close to Joel's reasoning, kind of a > manager's point of view. It is too business/money oriented and doesn't > exhaust all the reasons why people write software in open source world in > particular. And what

Re: [Twisted-Python] web vs web2 clarification

2009-12-10 Thread Mikhail Terekhov
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Phil Christensen wrote: > > I think that's debatable. Mozilla was terrible for a long time, there just > wasn't much alternative. You could make the (arguable) point that Mozilla's > rewrite happened at the cost of disengaging from the web community, leading > p

Re: [Twisted-Python] web vs web2 clarification

2009-12-10 Thread Phil Christensen
On Dec 10, 2009, at 2:21 PM, Mikhail Terekhov wrote: > Just some unrelated rant about Joel&Co : > > Joel talks about big _commercial_ projects and _commercial_ failures. > May be he is right here, may be not. But it is this rewrite from scratch that > gave birth to Mozilla - number one web/email s

Re: [Twisted-Python] web vs web2 clarification

2009-12-10 Thread Mikhail Terekhov
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 12:25 PM, wrote: > > Web2 was a sort of from scratch rewrite.  I don't usual defer to Joel, > but his article is the first hit for the phrase "from scratch rewrite" > and he basically gets it right: > >  http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog69.html > Just som

Re: [Twisted-Python] web vs web2 clarification

2009-12-10 Thread Glyph Lefkowitz
On Dec 10, 2009, at 1:21 PM, Jared Gisin wrote: > Excellent. Yes, it helps greatly. > > What I'm in need of is the ability to allow PUTs of arbitrarily large > entity-bodies which I will write to a file system on the server. The problem > with twisted.web right now is that before my Resource.

Re: [Twisted-Python] web vs web2 clarification

2009-12-10 Thread Jared Gisin
Of Christopher Armstrong Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 10:04 AM To: Twisted general discussion Subject: Re: [Twisted-Python] web vs web2 clarification On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Jared Gisin wrote: > I’m curious if anyone can shed some light on the  following sentence which >

Re: [Twisted-Python] web vs web2 clarification

2009-12-10 Thread Christopher Armstrong
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Jared Gisin wrote: > I’m curious if anyone can shed some light on the  following sentence which > is taken from “http://twistedmatrix.com/trac/wiki/WebDevelopmentWithTwisted” > > “We decided this was a mistake and development focus has shifted to porting > the bes

Re: [Twisted-Python] web vs web2 clarification

2009-12-10 Thread exarkun
On 04:40 pm, jared.gi...@isilon.com wrote: >I'm curious if anyone can shed some light on the following sentence >which is taken from >"http://twistedmatrix.com/trac/wiki/WebDevelopmentWithTwisted"; > >"We decided this was a mistake and development focus has shifted to >porting the best parts of Tw

[Twisted-Python] web vs web2 clarification

2009-12-10 Thread Jared Gisin
I'm curious if anyone can shed some light on the following sentence which is taken from "http://twistedmatrix.com/trac/wiki/WebDevelopmentWithTwisted"; "We decided this was a mistake and development focus has shifted to porting the best parts of Twisted Web 2 back to Twisted Web where existing