[trojita] Re: GSoC: Integrate Trojita to KDE

2013-06-17 Thread Jan Kundrát
On Sunday, 16 June 2013 14:10:46 CEST, Pali Rohár wrote: I think no. Kontact kpart plugin needs to know if standalone trojita binary is already running... And for this I'd like to use already implemented dbus trojita api. If Trojita is already running at the time Kontact launches, there isn't

[trojita] Re: GSoC: Integrate Trojita to KDE

2013-06-17 Thread Jan Kundrát
On Sunday, 16 June 2013 14:16:32 CEST, Kevin Krammer wrote: It might even be slightly beyond the scope of the GSoC proposal, because it is not related to Kontact or KDE integration but a new generic feature for Trojita. It is up to us (that is, Pali, you, Thomas, Caspar and me) to decide what

[trojita] Re: Using QtKeychain

2013-06-17 Thread Jan Kundrát
On Sunday, 16 June 2013 14:14:17 CEST, Pali Rohár wrote: Ok, so if I choose QtKeychain for implementing gsoc kwallet support, there could be problem with packaging. But benefit is support for Apple & Gnome. If I choose kwallet library directly, there will be no packaging problems, but it does n

Re: [trojita] Re: GSoC: Integrate Trojita to KDE

2013-06-17 Thread Pali Rohár
On Monday 17 June 2013 13:42:36 Jan Kundrát wrote: > On Sunday, 16 June 2013 14:16:32 CEST, Kevin Krammer wrote: > > It might even be slightly beyond the scope of the GSoC > > proposal, because it is > > not related to Kontact or KDE integration but a new generic > > feature for Trojita. > > It is

Re: [trojita] Re: GSoC: Integrate Trojita to KDE

2013-06-17 Thread Pali Rohár
On Monday 17 June 2013 13:36:51 Jan Kundrát wrote: > On Sunday, 16 June 2013 14:10:46 CEST, Pali Rohár wrote: > > I think no. Kontact kpart plugin needs to know if standalone > > trojita binary is already running... And for this I'd like > > to use already implemented dbus trojita api. > > If Troj

[trojita] Re: GSoC: Integrate Trojita to KDE

2013-06-17 Thread Jan Kundrát
On Monday, 17 June 2013 13:48:14 CEST, Pali Rohár wrote: Ok, similar behaviour is in Kmail and Kaddressbook. But they instead showing error message only bring main standalone application window to the front. Thanks for checking these; that's better than what I was suggesting. Jan -- Trojitá,

[trojita] Re: GSoC: Integrate Trojita to KDE

2013-06-17 Thread Jan Kundrát
On Monday, 17 June 2013 13:48:09 CEST, Pali Rohár wrote: Also I think that mailto support is needed for Kontact integration. Otherwise something like send email from KAddressbook (or other Kontact application) will use Kmail and not Trojita. You are right, but I suspect that the KAddressBook

[trojita] Re: GSoC: Integrate Trojita to KDE

2013-06-17 Thread Jan Kundrát
On Sunday, 16 June 2013 13:26:24 CEST, Pali Rohár wrote: But I tried it and here is updated timeline: Hi Pali, thanks for your flexibility. 24.6 - 30.6 * change trojita code to use functions from loaded plugins * move internal password code into trojita plugin (and drop internal addressbook

Re: [trojita] Re: GSoC: Integrate Trojita to KDE

2013-06-17 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Monday, 2013-06-17, Pali Rohár wrote: > On Monday 17 June 2013 13:42:36 Jan Kundrát wrote: > > It is up to us (that is, Pali, you, Thomas, Caspar and me) to > > decide what is "in scope" and what is not. > > > > My preference for this GSoC is that it shall improve Trojita > > even in the ways

Re: [trojita] Re: Using QtKeychain

2013-06-17 Thread Pali Rohár
On Monday 17 June 2013 13:48:39 Jan Kundrát wrote: > On Sunday, 16 June 2013 14:14:17 CEST, Pali Rohár wrote: > > Ok, so if I choose QtKeychain for implementing gsoc kwallet > > support, there could be problem with packaging. But benefit > > is support for Apple & Gnome. If I choose kwallet library

[trojita] Re: Using QtKeychain

2013-06-17 Thread Thomas Lübking
On Montag, 17. Juni 2013 13:48:39 CEST, Jan Kundrát wrote: - if there's no QtKeychain at build time, disable password storage altogether and have Trojita ask for one when needed Wouldn't that render Trojitá "unusable" for "non-DE" users (openbox or so), eventually even the "minor" ones (xfce,

[trojita] Re: GSoC: Integrate Trojita to KDE

2013-06-17 Thread Thomas Lübking
On Sunday, 16 June 2013 13:26:24 CEST, Pali Rohár wrote: 24.6 - 30.6 * change trojita code to use functions from loaded plugins * move internal password code into trojita plugin (and drop internal addressbook for now, it will be ported in august) I'll be predictably not (very) available July

Re: [trojita] Re: Using QtKeychain

2013-06-17 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Monday, 2013-06-17, Pali Rohár wrote: > Kevin, do you know if it is possible to tell QtKeychain to use > *only* kwallet (or gnome secure storage)? Or at least warn user > if want to use kwallet, but it is not available now? This could > fix above problem (when you "rebooting" to other desktop a

Re: [trojita] Re: GSoC: Integrate Trojita to KDE

2013-06-17 Thread Pali Rohár
On Monday 17 June 2013 14:46:24 Thomas Lübking wrote: > > On Sunday, 16 June 2013 13:26:24 CEST, Pali Rohár wrote: > >> 24.6 - 30.6 > >> * change trojita code to use functions from loaded plugins > >> * move internal password code into trojita plugin (and drop > >> internal addressbook for now, it

[trojita] Re: Using QtKeychain

2013-06-17 Thread Jan Kundrát
On Monday, 17 June 2013 14:41:16 CEST, Thomas Lübking wrote: Wouldn't that render Trojitá "unusable" for "non-DE" users (openbox or so), eventually even the "minor" ones (xfce, lxde)? That depends on what "unusable" means. It will cause a regression in that the passwords will no longer be reme

[trojita] Re: GSoC: Integrate Trojita to KDE

2013-06-17 Thread Jan Kundrát
On Monday, 17 June 2013 13:59:24 CEST, Kevin Krammer wrote: I am pretty sure that either goes through KToolInvocation::invokeMailer() or, if the applicaiton directly assembles mails itself, through kdepimlibs MailTransport facilities. In the case of a mailto URI most likely through KRun, but I

Re: [trojita] Re: Using QtKeychain

2013-06-17 Thread Randall Wood
Noone asked me, but I'm on the list :) Is it worth looking at how, for example, Claws-mail or Sylpheed do it? Neither is tied wholly into the gnome ecosystem that I know of, so maybe their strategy is instructive. As a somewhat casual user I can say Trojita stops becoming lightweight when it dep

Re: [trojita] Re: GSoC: Integrate Trojita to KDE

2013-06-17 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Monday, 2013-06-17, Jan Kundrát wrote: > On Monday, 17 June 2013 13:59:24 CEST, Kevin Krammer wrote: > > I am pretty sure that either goes through > > KToolInvocation::invokeMailer() or, > > if the applicaiton directly assembles mails itself, through kdepimlibs > > MailTransport facilities. > >

[trojita] Re: Using QtKeychain

2013-06-17 Thread Thomas Lübking
On Montag, 17. Juni 2013 18:20:37 CEST, Jan Kundrát wrote: On Monday, 17 June 2013 14:41:16 CEST, Thomas Lübking wrote: Wouldn't that render Trojitá "unusable" for "non-DE" users (openbox or so), eventually even the "minor" ones (xfce, lxde)? That depends on what "unusable" means. Typing pass

Re: [trojita] Re: Using QtKeychain

2013-06-17 Thread David Lang
On Mon, 17 Jun 2013, Thomas L?bking wrote: Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 21:01:30 +0200 From: Thomas L?bking Reply-To: trojita@lists.flaska.net To: trojita@lists.flaska.net Subject: [trojita] Re: Using QtKeychain On Montag, 17. Juni 2013 18:20:37 CEST, Jan Kundr?t wrote: On Monday, 17 June 2013 14:4