Re: [TOS] blog post on getting students involved in open source

2011-09-09 Thread tosmail20110729 . neophyte_rep
Uh, I thought the point of Bonnie's posting to this list was to generate comments on Guzdial’s blog. Bonnie, Was that your intention? Everyone, I think if this conversation happens only within this list Mark Guzdial’s opinion will carry more weight because it is more public. Do you want that t

Re: [TOS] Fwd: An experience report....

2011-09-09 Thread Kevin Mark
On Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 03:33:13PM -0500, Joel Sherrill wrote: > Hi, > So I am begging all of you professors, instructors, etc.to please approach > FOSS > projects for help. We are happy to help you out. > > --joel sherrill > RTEMS Just a few clarifications: from what I read (using cheese on

Re: [TOS] blog post on getting students involved in open source

2011-09-09 Thread Mel Chua
On 09/09/2011 03:40 PM, Bonnie MacKellar wrote: Mark Guzdial’s blog on computer science education has a somewhat negative post today on the usefulness of involving undergrads in open source development. Guzdial has posted similar sentiments about open source development before; see http://cac

[TOS] Mark Guzdial's blog on computer science education

2011-09-09 Thread Grant Hearn
Hi all - I agree that involving undergrad students tends to provide some large codebase experience with little access to the established developer community. However, no undergrad module is going to succeed in being all things to all people. For me, getting my students involved in the codebase

[TOS] OT: Beware of typos [Was: Fwd: An experience report....]

2011-09-09 Thread tosmail20110729 . neophyte_rep
On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 1:33 PM, joel.sherr...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi, > relevant comments > > So I am begging all of you professors, instructors, etc.to please approach > FOSS > projects for help.  We are happy to help you out. > Just a funny happenstance to record for posterity: One really has

Re: [TOS] blog post on getting students involved in open source

2011-09-09 Thread Matthew Jadud
Hi Bonnie, I hadn't checked my reader yet today. Mark is right: it isn't an apprenticeship model. That said, neither the community nor educators working on getting their students engaged believe that is what will happen in fourteen weeks. So, it's a kind of vacuous concern: the people doing it ar

Re: [TOS] Fwd: An experience report....

2011-09-09 Thread Joel Sherrill
Hi, I have been reading this list since its inception and sometimes popping my head out from under the rock to post. After lurking on this thread for a while, I couldn't help but wade in. I am the maintainer of RTEMS (free real-time operating system) and very interested in it being used in educa

[TOS] blog post on getting students involved in open source

2011-09-09 Thread Bonnie MacKellar
Mark Guzdial's blog on computer science education has a somewhat negative post today on the usefulness of involving undergrads in open source development. He says that while students may be getting good experience working with a large codebase, they aren't getting access to the extablished devel