Re: [tor-talk] Post Quantum Tor

2018-05-28 Thread Lodewijk andré de la porte
RSA/ECDSA are both screwed. SPHINCS seems good. Post quantum asymcrypt doesn't seem generally ready yet, but hashes work. 2018-05-26 9:04 GMT+02:00 Jacki M : > Here is the parent trac ticket for PQ > https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/24985 >

Re: [tor-talk] Post Quantum Tor

2018-05-28 Thread Kevin Burress
S7r I generally agree with you there. There is no evidence that it has been broken. Thus we can only go by what these agencies are saying or hinting about their capabilities. I certainly don't think that in this case it is required and must negotiate with post quantum cryptography, only that as a f

Re: [tor-talk] Post Quantum Tor

2018-05-28 Thread s7r
Kevin Burress wrote: > > We know that ecdsa is weak against a quantum computer, as well as rsa. The > only evidence I can provide is publicly available: > https://cointelegraph.com/news/nsa-will-not-use-quantum-computers-to-crack-bitcoin-antonopoulos > Well, with all due respect, Andreas Antonop

Re: [tor-talk] Post Quantum Tor

2018-05-28 Thread grarpamp
https://www.zdnet.com/article/ibm-warns-of-instant-breaking-of-encryption-by-quantum-computers-move-your-data-today/ https://csrc.nist.gov/projects/post-quantum-cryptography https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-quantum_cryptography http://www.etsi.org/news-events/news/947-2015-03-news-etsi-launches-qua

Re: [tor-talk] Post Quantum Tor

2018-05-28 Thread Kevin Burress
Now whether or not all of this power consumption is a coverup for the quantum capibilities of the NSA is a matter of speculation, but the fact of the matter is they are breaking encryption and they did spend $2 billion on a datacenter for that sole purpose. On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 11:04 PM, Kevin

Re: [tor-talk] Post Quantum Tor

2018-05-28 Thread Kevin Burress
Okay, a little more grounded, about the Utah datacenter in 2012: "The NSA project now aims to break the "exaflop barrier" by building a supercomputer a hundred times faster than the fastest existing today, the Japanese "K Computer." That code-breaking system is projected to use 200 megawatts of po