Re: [tor-talk] Is there any societal use in Bitcoin?

2017-09-04 Thread Aymeric Vitte
I think that you are mostly right except that it's not uninteresting at all for normal people to evade the banks dictatorship, delays and fees (what are you buying with this? what for? wiretransfer will take one week + absurd taxes not even knowing where it's coming from, etc, etc) and except that

Re: [tor-talk] Is there any societal use in Bitcoin?

2017-09-04 Thread carlo von lynX
On Mon, Sep 04, 2017 at 01:40:39PM +0200, Aymeric Vitte wrote: > I think that you are mostly right except that it's not uninteresting at > all for normal people to evade the banks dictatorship, delays and fees > (what are you buying with this? what for? wiretransfer will take one > week + absurd ta

Re: [tor-talk] Is there any societal use in Bitcoin?

2017-09-04 Thread Jon Tullett
On 4 September 2017 at 13:40, Aymeric Vitte wrote: > > I think that you are mostly right except that it's not uninteresting at > all for normal people to evade the banks dictatorship, delays and fees > (what are you buying with this? what for? wiretransfer will take one > week + absurd taxes not e

Re: [tor-talk] Is there any societal use in Bitcoin?

2017-09-04 Thread Roman Mamedov
On Mon, 4 Sep 2017 17:04:10 +0200 Jon Tullett wrote: > As it happens, I just recently transferred funds internationally. It > took 36 hours to clear, at a guaranteed rate. My local bank charged > about $8 in fees But that's still within Europe or the like? Internationally on a wider scale SWIFT

Re: [tor-talk] Is there any societal use in Bitcoin?

2017-09-04 Thread grarpamp
> As it happens, I just recently transferred funds internationally. It > took 36 hours to clear, at a guaranteed rate. My local bank charged > about $8 in fees (mostly for the overhead of liaising with the local > receiver of revenue - there's a bunch of paperwork, so I can't really > object to the

Re: [tor-talk] Is there any societal use in Bitcoin?

2017-09-04 Thread Aymeric Vitte
Le 04/09/2017 à 18:04, grarpamp a écrit : >> As it happens, I just recently transferred funds internationally. It >> took 36 hours to clear, at a guaranteed rate. My local bank charged >> about $8 in fees (mostly for the overhead of liaising with the local >> receiver of revenue - there's a bunch

Re: [tor-talk] Is there any societal use in Bitcoin?

2017-09-04 Thread Aymeric Vitte
I don't really see people use Taler in Africa, as mentioned in my previous email can't Stellar or Ripple do what you want? I was talking about bitcoin contracts too, not only ethereum, contracts don't have to be necessarily linked to money For me the non societal aspect for btc is more due to the

Re: [tor-talk] Is there any societal use in Bitcoin?

2017-09-04 Thread carlo von lynX
On Mon, Sep 04, 2017 at 08:35:17PM +0500, Roman Mamedov wrote: > BTC wouldn't require "same timeframe" of 36 hours to transfer, it can be done > within less than an hour. And with the recent developments in the BTC world, > both transaction speed and cost per transaction will continue to improve.

Re: [tor-talk] Is there any societal use in Bitcoin?

2017-09-04 Thread Jon Tullett
On 5 September 2017 at 08:25, carlo von lynX wrote: > On Mon, Sep 04, 2017 at 08:35:17PM +0500, Roman Mamedov wrote: >> BTC wouldn't require "same timeframe" of 36 hours to transfer, it can be done >> within less than an hour. And with the recent developments in the BTC world, >> both transaction