Re: [tor-talk] Neal Krawetz's abcission proposal, and Tor's reputation

2017-08-31 Thread Lolint
Hi, This would make projects such as Ricochet, unMessage, ..., and any other one that uses an onion service as an "identity". And with the already upcoming long addresses, this would make them unusable for any practical purpose to put simply. --Jeff -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.t

Re: [tor-talk] Neal Krawetz's abcission proposal, and Tor's reputation

2017-08-31 Thread Paul Syverson
On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 01:18:36PM -0400, Roger Dingledine wrote: > On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 03:07:37PM +0100, Ben Tasker wrote: > > So his suggestion is portrayed as not sacrificing much, but actually > > sacrifices quite a lot. > > This is a really important point. Thinking of onion space right n

Re: [tor-talk] Neal Krawetz's abcission proposal, and Tor's reputation

2017-08-31 Thread Paul Syverson
On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 11:28:13AM -0700, Seth David Schoen wrote: > Roger Dingledine writes: > > > I think finding ways to tie onion addresses to normal ("insecure web") > > domains, when a service has both, is really important too. I'd like to > > live in a world where Let's Encrypt gives you an

[tor-talk] Is there any societal use in Bitcoin?

2017-08-31 Thread carlo von lynX
Would the "darknet" be a better place if there was no Bitcoin? Are any of the ethical uses of Bitcoin actually necessary to be done using Bitcoin? Should society make blockchain finance tools illegal? Should Tor activists combat criminal uses of the onion space by impeding its anti-social finance t

Re: [tor-talk] Is there any societal use in Bitcoin?

2017-08-31 Thread Gareth Llewellyn
Ablative Hosting (clearnet + single hop onion hosting) is planning on utilising Bitcoin, not because we expect our customers to do anything criminal but because banks do and have exerted moralistic control over customers because of the nature of downstream customers / users (e.g. FetLife). Visa

Re: [tor-talk] Neal Krawetz's abcission proposal, and Tor's reputation

2017-08-31 Thread krishna e bera
On 30/08/17 10:07 AM, Ben Tasker wrote: > On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Jon Tullett wrote >> For example the "China Dissident Blog" could choose a stable site hosted > in the United States or Europe and have it point to the current unvalidated > name. Or they can just use a friend's Internet si

Re: [tor-talk] Neal Krawetz's abcission proposal, and Tor's reputation

2017-08-31 Thread Seth David Schoen
Paul Syverson writes: > As the cryptographic design changes for next generation onion services > are now being rolled out, that > in-my-opinion-never-actually-well-grounded concern will go away. I > cover at a high level, a design for onion altnames in "The Once and > Future Onion" [1] that I thin

[tor-talk] What are you fighting for? was: Re: Neal Krawetz's abcission proposal, and Tor's reputation

2017-08-31 Thread Lara
krishna e bera: > There is no country that respects freedom of speech and there is no > country that respects privacy. Borders are usually lines drawn on a map by old, usually white, males with almost complete disregard to the humans living in around the area crossed by the said line. Countries