Re: [tor-talk] FBI harassing Tor devs

On Thu, 19 May 2016 00:50:14 +, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: ... > Someone please give me a plausible scenario of how an NSL to a single > developer ends up breaking Tor. "Hi, you're the one who is packaging tor, right? Please[tm] run this program on the binary, and don't tell anyone." Not sure i

Re: [tor-talk] FBI harassing Tor devs

> "Hi, you're the one who is packaging tor, right? Please[tm] run this program on the binary, and don't tell anyone." Developer from community that leverages gitian: I can totally do that. Community that leverages gitian: Hm, this package looks different.  Let's quarantine it and let the world

Re: [tor-talk] FBI harassing Tor devs

On Thu, 19 May 2016 13:38:18 +, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: ... > Community that leverages gitian: Hm, this package looks different.  Let's > quarantine it and let the world inspect it. > World: Sounds fun! Actually, it's sufficient if there is a single person doing this when there are reproducibl

Re: [tor-talk] fwd: FBI Is Pushing Back Against Judge's Order to Reveal Tor Browser Exploit

On 5/19/2016 1:31 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: On 5/19/16, krishna e bera wrote: On 05/18/2016 11:40 AM, Joe Btfsplk wrote: I'm surprised there are no discussions or questions on tor-talk about this issue . Since any exploits - whether due to "flaws" in Firefox or TBB, or not - potentially hav

[tor-talk] so strange but interesting

Hi, I know it might be something strange, but still so interesting, you have to see it here My Best, tor-talk-boun...@lists.torproject.org -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to http

Re: [tor-talk] so strange but interesting

This presumably phishing, malware, or spam. I'd advise against clicking. On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 9:11 AM tor-talk-boun...@lists.torproject.org < s...@pizzey.me> wrote: > Hi, > I know it might be something strange, but still so interesting, you have > to see it here

Re: [tor-talk] FBI harassing Tor devs

> Now, as an NSL-issuing entity you need to come up with a source code modification that induces a backdoor, and is reasonably defensible by a dev, and then force that dev to include this change into the git repo, and defend it in reviews. But the FBI has as much proof in the field as you've pro

[tor-talk] [off-list] Looking for excellent talks on Tor at HotPETs 2016

Hey Aaron, Just curious if HotPETS allows talks to be given via distance. Thanks! Griffin -- There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand binary, those who don't, and people who didn't expect a base 3 joke. -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubsc

Re: [tor-talk] [off-list] Looking for excellent talks on Tor at HotPETs 2016

Hi Griffin, > Just curious if HotPETS allows talks to be given via distance. > No, we are not set up to enable that. Also, in case you were considering submitting, the deadline has already passed (it was May 13th). Sorry to be so negative! Best, Aaron -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists

Re: [tor-talk] [off-list] Looking for excellent talks on Tor at HotPETs 2016

No worries! A colleague was lamenting a schedule conflict for it, so thought I'd ask. :-) Are you ever in Boston? -- Sent from my phone. Expect cat gifs. On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 3:03 PM, Aaron Johnson < aaron.m.john...@nrl.navy.mil [aaron.m.john...@nrl.navy.mil] wrote: Hi Griffin,Just curi

[tor-talk] Tor Design : Differents keys used for connection.

Hello all, This is my first post. I have a question regarding the article "Tor: the Second-Generation Onion Routeur" [ http://www.onion-router.net/Publications/tor-design.pdf ] , I would like some clarification. It would be fantastic if you could help me :) In point 4 (Page 4) the article talks

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Design : Differents keys used for connection.

On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 10:13:54PM +0200, Brieuc Barthélemy wrote: > In point 4 (Page 4) the article talks about differents keys: > - A long term identity key: to sign TLS certificate, OR route descriptor > and to sign directories. > - A short-term onion key: used to decrypt requests from users. >

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Design : Differents keys used for connection.

Hi Roger, Glad YOU answered me, ashamed I didn't find it. ;) Thank you so much! Brieuc Barthélemy www.brieuc.be | www.fatcha.be | carolofornie.be @bribarthelemy

Re: [tor-talk] fwd: FBI Is Pushing Back Against Judge's Order to Reveal Tor Browser Exploit

Tor was broken in beta long before it mainstream. What would you day if I said there was a list of every tor user and relay and that list was started when there were as few as 800 users??? Saw the list way back when. the government is willing to spend 7.55 billion to get into our shorts at the a

Re: [tor-talk] fwd: FBI Is Pushing Back Against Judge's Order to Reveal Tor Browser Exploit

Should Google do to keyboards what they have done to driving we might not have to see such dross. > > Tor was broken in beta long before it mainstream. What would you say if I > said there was a list of every tor user and relay and that blah blah blah Robert -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-

Re: [tor-talk] fwd: FBI Is Pushing Back Against Judge's Order to Reveal Tor Browser Exploit

On 5/19/16, Joe Btfsplk wrote: > bad ideas. It just struck me as odd that this topic was one of very few > when most tor-talk subscribers decided to adhere to communication > silence. That's potentially inflammatory. I have not chosen to "adhere to communication silence", I just raised some cons

Re: [tor-talk] fwd: FBI Is Pushing Back Against Judge's Order to Reveal Tor Browser Exploit

Dross my ass it's true. I kept getting pinged when running Tor right when ir was first in beta. My firewall was set not to respond to pings. I could register where they were coming from . So I did a back trace and it led me to a machine at Harvard.edu. Ftped straight in and a few levels up was

Re: [tor-talk] fwd: FBI Is Pushing Back Against Judge's Order to Reveal Tor Browser Exploit

Hey hey! :D - Self driving cars -> self typing keyboards -> pre thunked thoughts on TV -> government permitted rights^Bactivities I'm so glad everything's getting automated. Imagine having to somehow actually raise a personal effort to any outcome in life ... On 5/20/16, I wrote: > Should Goog

Re: [tor-talk] fwd: FBI Is Pushing Back Against Judge's Order to Reveal Tor Browser Exploit

On 5/20/16, Rick Evans wrote: > Where does > grant money come from for computer science projects? Figure it out. "Oh pick me! pick me! I know ... the people" (with apologies to Donkey). At least it's not from the government, cause that could might possbly be may be seen as a slight wee little c

Re: [tor-talk] fwd: FBI Is Pushing Back Against Judge's Order to Reveal Tor Browser Exploit

Been there done that. The Idea was so cool that when the company I worked for needed a little help reducing the prototype down to a single circuit board and their result came back, "made in japan" they settled out of court for $1,000,000. The contract stipulated that all finished products were to

Re: [tor-talk] fwd: FBI Is Pushing Back Against Judge's Order to Reveal Tor Browser Exploit

On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 8:26 PM, Rick Evans wrote: > Tor was broken in beta long before it mainstream. What would you day if I > said there was a list of every tor user and relay and that list was started > when there were as few as 800 users??? Saw the list way back when. the > government is

Re: [tor-talk] fwd: FBI Is Pushing Back Against Judge's Order to Reveal Tor Browser Exploit

What if the majority of the relays or even a large fraction are not playing by those rules? Why not 4 or 5 hops? Will too much traffic will over burden the network and slow it down? On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 10:23 PM, Blake Hadley wrote: > On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 8:26 PM, Rick Evans wrote: > >

Re: [tor-talk] fwd: FBI Is Pushing Back Against Judge's Order to Reveal Tor Browser Exploit

I await the latest update of the list of "every tor user". Robert -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk

Re: [tor-talk] fwd: FBI Is Pushing Back Against Judge's Order to Reveal Tor Browser Exploit

Well, It is possible that particular project was ended on that particular machine. I left after seeing the list. Some one who left the front door wide open might not like regular visitors and complain about it. I might have a backup of the eight hundred laying around though. I think they were o