[tor-talk] Easier download via email?

2016-02-15 Thread rizzo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi all, There used to be an option for people in countries that block Torproject.org to send an email to a bot and get a download link in return. I cannot find this download option anywhere on the website, and am wondering if we should make this mor

[tor-talk] Default to meek based on location?

2016-02-15 Thread rizzo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi all, In some big censored countries, meek pluggable transports are the only option to connect to the Tor network without manually obtaining bridges, a process which I believe many people don't understand enough to figure it out on their own. Has

[tor-talk] Cloud Flare

2016-02-15 Thread amharic
Does everybody already know that Nick Sullivan from Cloud Flare promised to end captcha-blocking tor in 2015 in a talk at the Chaos Commincation Congress in Germany in Winter 2014? Check out the QA at end of this talk: https://media.ccc.de/v/31c3_-_6212_-_en_-_saal_1_-_201412282330_-_heartache_a

[tor-talk] How to make the Tor service to stop faster?

2016-02-15 Thread me
Hi. I'm using the Tor SystemD service on Linux. I noticed that stopping Tor is a significant delay during reboot. It is about 30 s. Can I make this time smaller? -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cg

[tor-talk] Does Tor support ControlSocket?

2016-02-15 Thread me
Hi. Some old discussions on "stem" and "vidalia" suggest that Tor may be controlled via a Unix domain socket. This seems like a good way to control Tor on Unix; I just need to add a user who will control Tor to the "tor" group. But I can't find anything like a documentation. -- tor-talk mailing

Re: [tor-talk] How to make the Tor service to stop faster?

2016-02-15 Thread nusenu
m...@beroal.in.ua: > Hi. I'm using the Tor SystemD service on Linux. I noticed that stopping > Tor is a significant delay during reboot. It is about 30 s. Can I make > this time smaller? The relevant torrc option is called: ShutdownWaitLength signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signatu

Re: [tor-talk] Does Tor support ControlSocket?

2016-02-15 Thread nusenu
m...@beroal.in.ua: > Hi. Some old discussions on "stem" and "vidalia" suggest that Tor may be > controlled via a Unix domain socket. This seems like a good way to > control Tor on Unix; I just need to add a user who will control Tor to > the "tor" group. But I can't find anything like a documenta

Re: [tor-talk] Does Tor support ControlSocket?

2016-02-15 Thread me
Thank you for your answer. I looked into "torrc"; I though it describes all options. On 15.02.16 14:07, nusenu wrote: m...@beroal.in.ua: Hi. Some old discussions on "stem" and "vidalia" suggest that Tor may be controlled via a Unix domain socket. This seems like a good way to control Tor on Un

Re: [tor-talk] Easier download via email?

2016-02-15 Thread Griffin Boyce
rizzo wrote: Also, when I once tried the email bot, the only option was to be sent a download link to Dropbox, which isn't of much use when Dropbox is also blocked in the country. Has there been any discussion on using Amazon or Azure servers instead, following the same rationale like the meek br

Re: [tor-talk] How to make the Tor service to stop faster?

2016-02-15 Thread Pickfire
Is there any reason for the ShutdownWaitLength to be 30s? That's too long, no wonder it is so slow to restart the tor service. -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk

Re: [tor-talk] Does Tor support ControlSocket?

2016-02-15 Thread me
On 15.02.16 14:07, nusenu wrote: m...@beroal.in.ua: Hi. Some old discussions on "stem" and "vidalia" suggest that Tor may be controlled via a Unix domain socket. This seems like a good way to control Tor on Unix; I just need to add a user who will control Tor to the "tor" group. But I can't find

Re: [tor-talk] Easier download via email?

2016-02-15 Thread rizzo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi Griffin, Thanks for the info on Satori and confirming that GetTor is still relying on Dropbox. Satori is a great idea, though many Android devices in China, for example, don't come with Google Play anymore, because so many Google services are blo

Re: [tor-talk] Does Tor support ControlSocket?

2016-02-15 Thread nusenu
m...@beroal.in.ua: > On 15.02.16 14:07, nusenu wrote: >> m...@beroal.in.ua: >>> Hi. Some old discussions on "stem" and "vidalia" suggest that Tor may be >>> controlled via a Unix domain socket. This seems like a good way to >>> control Tor on Unix; I just need to add a user who will control Tor t

Re: [tor-talk] How to make the Tor service to stop faster?

2016-02-15 Thread nusenu
Pickfire: > Is there any reason for the ShutdownWaitLength to be 30s? That's too > long, no wonder it is so slow to restart the tor service. It is just the nicer way to say goodbye to clients - I guess. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@

Re: [tor-talk] Does Tor support ControlSocket?

2016-02-15 Thread Damian Johnson
For what it's worth you might find the following helpful... https://stem.torproject.org/faq.html#i-m-using-a-controlsocket Cheers! -Damian On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 3:51 AM, wrote: > Hi. Some old discussions on "stem" and "vidalia" suggest that Tor may be > controlled via a Unix domain socket.

Re: [tor-talk] orplug, an Android firewall with per-app Tor circuit isolation

2016-02-15 Thread Nathan Freitas
On Sun, Feb 14, 2016, at 06:12 AM, Rusty Bird wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > Hi coderman, > > > with VPN approach you don't get to control traffic outside routed > > range, or before VPN activates, or fail-safe if it drops > > un-expectedly, or ... > > I heard t

Re: [tor-talk] Default to meek based on location?

2016-02-15 Thread Nathan Freitas
On Mon, Feb 15, 2016, at 04:38 AM, rizzo wrote: > In some big censored countries, meek pluggable transports are the only > option to connect to the Tor network without manually obtaining > bridges, a process which I believe many people don't understand enough > to figure it out on their own. Has

Re: [tor-talk] How to make the Tor service to stop faster?

2016-02-15 Thread Ken Cline
> On 15 Feb 2016, at 7:22 AM, nusenu wrote: > > > > Pickfire: >> Is there any reason for the ShutdownWaitLength to be 30s? That's too >> long, no wonder it is so slow to restart the tor service. > > It is just the nicer way to say goodbye to clients - I guess. I bet shutdown delay has to hav

Re: [tor-talk] How to make the Tor service to stop faster?

2016-02-15 Thread me
On 15.02.16 20:48, Ken Cline wrote: Killing tor can leave them in that FIN_WAIT_2 state in which they cannot be killed It's rather an OS flaw. -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/list

Re: [tor-talk] How to make the Tor service to stop faster?

2016-02-15 Thread Andreas Krey
On Mon, 15 Feb 2016 11:48:45 +, Ken Cline wrote: > > On 15 Feb 2016, at 7:22 AM, nusenu wrote: ... > > It is just the nicer way to say goodbye to clients - I guess. Also, tor then has a chance to gracefully shut down circuits so that at least short-lived connections don't break by the shutdow

Re: [tor-talk] How to make the Tor service to stop faster?

2016-02-15 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 10:26:51PM +0100, Andreas Krey wrote: > > > It is just the nicer way to say goodbye to clients - I guess. > > Also, tor then has a chance to gracefully shut down circuits so > that at least short-lived connections don't break by the shutdown. Yes, this is it. Once you star

Re: [tor-talk] Default to meek based on location?

2016-02-15 Thread rizzo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi Nathan, Yes, more assistance in solving a stuck connection process would be a great improvement. Who would I have to pitch on that and possibly help with usability? I'm not a developer, but I know UX. For Orbot, does it support meek now? - --

Re: [tor-talk] Easier download via email?

2016-02-15 Thread ilv
On 15/02/16 06:33, rizzo wrote: > Hi all, > Hi, > > Also, when I once tried the email bot, the only option was to be sent > a download link to Dropbox, which isn't of much use when Dropbox is > also blocked in the country. Has there been any discussion on using > Amazon or Azure servers instead

Re: [tor-talk] Easier download via email?

2016-02-15 Thread rizzo
Hi ilv, It's been a while since I tried it. Tried again now and Github works well -- nice! I didn't know that we are now listing several links for download. This is good. ilv: > When did you try this? We currently send links to download Tor Browser > from three providers: Dropbox, Google Drive, a