[tor-talk] HS drop

2013-08-11 Thread grarpamp
I'm seeing a longer tail on this event, maybe another 300+ down, it's probably a nervous and idle response. I'm adding some more tools so will have much better data to post. -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsusbscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torpro

[tor-talk] TBB 3 alpha logging

2013-08-11 Thread Sebastian G.
Hi, with TBB 3 (currently in alpha) Vidalia is no longer included. How will a user be able to see stuff that happens, which normally would show up in the log of Vidalia? For example clock-skew which will be something the user is expected to correct. How, if he/she does not get aware of it? Best,

Re: [tor-talk] Basics of secure email platform

2013-08-11 Thread grarpamp
On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Jerzy Łogiewa wrote: > I like to start a conversation about secure email provider > If I start new email provider now, how to guarantee security and privacy for > user? > Understanding limitation of email of course! Within the existing email standards and limitat

Re: [tor-talk] Basics of secure email platform

2013-08-11 Thread grarpamp
> On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Jerzy Łogiewa wrote: >> I like to start a conversation about secure email provider >> If I start new email provider now, how to guarantee security and privacy for >> user? >> Understanding limitation of email of course! There are some conversation going on at c

[tor-talk] Replacement for Tormail

2013-08-11 Thread Edgar S
The function of Tormail I need that suggested solutions don't seem to have is the ability to receive and reply to clear text ordinary Email sent from a non-secure SMTP. As the recipient, I use Tor and anyone monitoring the Email can't associate it with me, except possibly by the contents. I hav

Re: [tor-talk] Secure email with limited usable metadata

2013-08-11 Thread Mike Hearn
> What's the defect with that approach? > > It's actually quite easy using Multibit clients (which are local but > don't download the blockchain) in Tails, Whonix, Incognito, etc. Yes, you can effectively swap coins with people, that's one way to go. The issue of it being difficult to obtain coi

Re: [tor-talk] HS drop

2013-08-11 Thread Tom Ritter
Hey grarpamp, You may have explained this elsewhere, but if so I missed it (potentially while on an internet moratorium for the past week) - how are you observing these statistics? Thanks, -tom -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsusbscribe or change other settings go t

Re: [tor-talk] HS drop

2013-08-11 Thread grarpamp
> how are you observing these statistics? As with any other monitor on the internet, no magic, just lots of scripts :) If I see something noteable like this I'll post it here of course. -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsusbscribe or change other settings go to https:/

Re: [tor-talk] Secure email with limited usable metadata

2013-08-11 Thread mirimir
On 08/11/2013 01:21 PM, Mike Hearn wrote: >> What's the defect with that approach? >> >> It's actually quite easy using Multibit clients (which are local >> but don't download the blockchain) in Tails, Whonix, Incognito, >> etc. > > > Yes, you can effectively swap coins with people, that's one

Re: [tor-talk] HS drop

2013-08-11 Thread mirimir
On 08/11/2013 09:10 PM, grarpamp wrote: >> how are you observing these statistics? > > As with any other monitor on the internet, no magic, just lots of scripts :) > If I see something noteable like this I'll post it here of course. Have you accumulated a list of all hidden services using spider

Re: [tor-talk] HS drop

2013-08-11 Thread grarpamp
> The address space of all possible hidden services (36! = 3.72e+41) is > far^N too large to scan, right? ;) It's 2^80 and would take at least 100Myr to scan. I'm working on it but my NIC's keep wearing out. -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsusbscribe or change other

Re: [tor-talk] So what about Pirate Browser?

2013-08-11 Thread grarpamp
On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Lutz Horn wrote: > Am 10.08.13 20:03, schrieb Randolph D.: >> https://sourceforge.net/projects/torbrowser/ > > How often do you want to advertise this project Probably about as often as GoldBug et al. I'd actually forgotten about this 'torbrowser'. Interesting to

Re: [tor-talk] HS drop

2013-08-11 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 2:53 PM, mirimir wrote: > Have you accumulated a list of all hidden services using spiders etc? > The address space of all possible hidden services (36! = 3.72e+41) is > far^N too large to scan, right? ;) Unfortunately, due to mildly design limitations in hidden services y

Re: [tor-talk] HS drop

2013-08-11 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Griffin Boyce wrote: > And if you spider them based on links and onion search engines, you > can get a decent idea of active hidden services. But I'd still like to No need to do this. http://www.ieee-security.org/TC/SP2013/papers/4977a080.pdf -- tor-talk mail

Re: [tor-talk] HS drop

2013-08-11 Thread Griffin Boyce
On 08/11/2013 07:33 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 2:53 PM, mirimir wrote: >> Have you accumulated a list of all hidden services using spiders etc? >> The address space of all possible hidden services (36! = 3.72e+41) is >> far^N too large to scan, right? ;) > Unfortunately,

Re: [tor-talk] HS drop

2013-08-11 Thread mirimir
On 08/11/2013 10:56 PM, grarpamp wrote: >> The address space of all possible hidden services (36! = 3.72e+41) is >> far^N too large to scan, right? ;) > > It's 2^80 and would take at least 100Myr to scan. > I'm working on it but my NIC's keep wearing out. Oops. Math is not one of my strong suits

Re: [tor-talk] So what about Pirate Browser?

2013-08-11 Thread Greg Norcie
Disagreeing w/ the Vidalia removal seems like the only logical reason I can think of. I admittedly haven't used it (since it's Windows only) but from their page and the NYT article I read, it sounds like it doesn't seem to do anything that the TBB doesn't already do. They says its Tor + FoxyPr