Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-17 Thread Abel Luck
Mike Perry: > The new TBB 3.0 series is almost ready for its first alpha release! > > Here are the major highlights of the 3.0 series: > > 1. Usability, usability, usability! We've attempted to solve several > major usability issues in this series, including: > > A. No more Vidalia. The

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-17 Thread Mike Perry
Andrew Lewman: > On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 17:44:14 -0700 > Micah Lee wrote: > > > But soon (maybe Monday with your blog post) they will be here too? > > https://www.torproject.org/dist/torbrowser/linux/ > > Really, you should be using archive.torproject.org, not www. archive > links aren't likely to

Re: [tor-talk] Plans about Askbot?

2013-06-17 Thread Moritz Bartl
On 17.06.2013 05:33, Andrew Lewman wrote: >> You had ask.TPO with Askbot already running and it is still running. >> All it seems to take is an active community that feeds it with >> questions and answers them. > The askbot software needs work itself, and there's the enhancements we'd > want to see

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-17 Thread Andrew Lewman
On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 00:33:07 -0700 Mike Perry wrote: > I would like to blog about these bundles tomorrow morning. Where can > they go for that announcement? Leaving them on people is fine with me. > I don't appear to have access to archive, nor do I have the > infrastructure to set up and seed

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-17 Thread Andrew Lewman
On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 08:09:33 -0400 Andrew Lewman wrote: > > In the meantime, I've synced the mirrors to create this url, which > > should be up shortly: > > https://www.torproject.org/dist/torbrowser/3.0a1 > > I ended up removing this directory because we ran out of disk space on > a few of the

Re: [tor-talk] Plans about Askbot?

2013-06-17 Thread Lunar
Hi! For the record, I share the concerns Moritz have raised about the move to Stack Exchange. Andrew Lewman: > It came down to the decision of spending money on fixing and modifying > askbot and making a better tor. We chose the latter. > > If some community wants to improve askbot, we'll conside

Re: [tor-talk] Tor 0.2.4.13-alpha is out

2013-06-17 Thread tor-admin
On Sunday 16 June 2013 19:02:05 Nick Mathewson wrote: > On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 6:55 PM, krishna e bera wrote: > > What if relays revert to the "stable" 0.2.3.latest for now? > > Personally, I'd suggest that relays just stick with 0.2.4.12-alpha and > wait 0.2.4.14-alpha: we should have it out pr

Re: [tor-talk] Plans about Askbot?

2013-06-17 Thread adrelanos
Lunar: > You are raising good points. I am proposing the following roadmap. 1) post feature request against http://bugs.askbot.org/ 2) have a wiki page which links to all the feature requests you need from askbot 3) call for help (blog post) 4) Next time someone says “I would really like to h

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-17 Thread adrelanos
Abel Luck: > Is using the TorBrowser with a transparent tor router no longer > supported in this version? > > I couldn't find an such option in the startup wizard. Set the TOR_SKIP_LAUNCH variable [1] to 1. export TOR_SKIP_LAUNCH=1 This will result in skipping the startup wizard. [1] https

[tor-talk] Fwd: [PET] Japan to possibly/partially block Tor?

2013-06-17 Thread Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb
(cross-posting to the Tor Project talk list for possibly more information) Does anyone know about this reported blocking of Tor in Japan? The metrics of connected users doesn't seem too unusal? https://metrics.torproject.org/direct-users.png?start=2013-02-01&events=points&end=2013-06-17&country=

Re: [tor-talk] Plans about Askbot?

2013-06-17 Thread Sebastian G.
17.06.2013 05:33, Andrew Lewman: > On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 15:04:08 +0200 > "Sebastian G. " wrote: > >> You had ask.TPO with Askbot already running and it is still running. >> All it seems to take is an active community that feeds it with >> questions and answers them. > > The askbot software needs

tor-talk@lists.torproject.org

2013-06-17 Thread Sebastian G.
17.06.2013 05:28, Andrew Lewman: > On Sun, 16 Jun 2013 15:03:13 +0200 > "Sebastian G. " wrote: > >> I'd like to raise concerns about third-party Q&As and discuss them. > > We've had this discussion for the past year or so, see > https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/5995 > > and > >

Re: [tor-talk] Plans about Askbot?

2013-06-17 Thread Sebastian G.
16.06.2013 22:38, Moritz Bartl: > On 16.06.2013 21:33, Sebastian G. wrote: >>> It was decided that we have no resources to maintain our own Q&A, and >>> that having a third-party Q&A is better than none. I disagree, but >>> that's not the point. >> I'm not sure what you disagree with. >> That ther

[tor-talk] Relay Only?

2013-06-17 Thread Warren Michelsen
New to Tor... I have an Intel 64-bit machine with Fedora Linux that's not currently doing anything and I want to set it up as a Tor relay. It won't be used for anything else -- no client use. Is there a Linux OS that is best for a Tor relay? (A server installation, perhaps?) Does it matter?

[tor-talk] "Torifier" for Windows

2013-06-17 Thread mancha
Hello. Is there a Tor Project sanctioned method to "torify" applications on Windows? On systems such as Linux there are wrappers like torify and torsocks. Windows does have some functional pseudo equivalents like FreeCap and other proprietary/closed applications. I am wondering if anyone has wor

Re: [tor-talk] "Torifier" for Windows

2013-06-17 Thread Fabio Pietrosanti (naif)
On 6/17/13 8:21 PM, mancha wrote: Hello. Is there a Tor Project sanctioned method to "torify" applications on Windows? On systems such as Linux there are wrappers like torify and torsocks. Windows does have some functional pseudo equivalents like FreeCap and other proprietary/closed application

Re: [tor-talk] Plans about Askbot?

2013-06-17 Thread Runa A. Sandvik
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Lunar wrote: > One of the concern that was raised by Moritz is export capabilities of > Stack Exchange. How likely are we to switch to a self-hosted application > if it means losing data that had taken a lot of energy to assemble in > the first place? Who said we

Re: [tor-talk] Plans about Askbot?

2013-06-17 Thread Runa A. Sandvik
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Sebastian G. wrote: > Do you plan to use Stackexchange instead? If we can move the page from the proposal stage to the beta stage, yes. If we can't do that, then I don't see why we should spend resources (time, money, people) on setting up our own site. At this p

Re: [tor-talk] "Torifier" for Windows

2013-06-17 Thread Nick Mathewson
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Fabio Pietrosanti (naif) wrote: > On 6/17/13 8:21 PM, mancha wrote: >> >> Hello. >> >> Is there a Tor Project sanctioned method to "torify" >> applications on Windows? >> >> On systems such as Linux there are wrappers like torify >> and torsocks. Windows does have

Re: [tor-talk] "Torifier" for Windows

2013-06-17 Thread Blibbet
Is there a Tor Project sanctioned method to "torify" applications on Windows? On systems such as Linux there are wrappers like torify and torsocks. Windows does have some functional pseudo equivalents like FreeCap and other proprietary/closed applications. I am wondering if anyone has worked on

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-17 Thread The Doctor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/15/2013 06:58 AM, Moritz Bartl wrote: > I tried both. Many people *will* overwrite their old TBB, so even > then it should work. We get A LOT of support tickets from people > that overwrite their old directory. You told everyone a while ago > th

Re: [tor-talk] "Torifier" for Windows

2013-06-17 Thread David Goulet
Hi, I've been working on a re-engineering of torsocks recently and I would really like to support Windows natively! However, since I'm far from a Win. developer, some important portability issues need to be address. On *nix system we LD_PRELOAD the program thus hijacking the necessary symbols to

Re: [tor-talk] Fwd: [PET] Japan to possibly/partially block Tor?

2013-06-17 Thread Hideki Saito
As far as I know, Mainichi news press (the newspaper company who originated this report) jumped on the gun, and it wasn't actually accurate report to begin with. As the English version of Wired News states: [UPDATE 24/04/2013] This article, and its headline, originally stated that the panel's reco

Re: [tor-talk] "Torifier" for Windows

2013-06-17 Thread Christopher Schmidt
David Goulet writes: > On *nix system we LD_PRELOAD the program thus hijacking the necessary > symbols to make sure all your TCP and DNS traffic goes through Tor. On > Windows, I'm a bit clueless on how to proceed but for that I'm really > looking for contributors to help. :) I'd hotpatch all Win

[tor-talk] Are non-official projects welcome to Stackexchange Tor Q&A forum?

2013-06-17 Thread adrelanos
Hi! Short version: Can I redirect Whonix users to Stackexchange Tor Q&A forum? Long version: There are many Tor related projects, which are non-official, such as Whonix, Liberte Linux, TorChat, etc. Can non-official projects redirect their users questions to the Stackexchange Tor Q&A forum? I

Re: [tor-talk] Plans about Askbot?

2013-06-17 Thread Lunar
Runa A. Sandvik: > On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Lunar wrote: > > One of the concern that was raised by Moritz is export capabilities of > > Stack Exchange. How likely are we to switch to a self-hosted application > > if it means losing data that had taken a lot of energy to assemble in > > the

Re: [tor-talk] Plans about Askbot?

2013-06-17 Thread Runa A. Sandvik
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 9:34 PM, Lunar wrote: > Runa A. Sandvik: >> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Lunar wrote: >> > One of the concern that was raised by Moritz is export capabilities of >> > Stack Exchange. How likely are we to switch to a self-hosted application >> > if it means losing data

Re: [tor-talk] Plans about Askbot?

2013-06-17 Thread Tom Ritter
On Jun 17, 2013 5:41 PM, "Lunar" wrote: > > Runa A. Sandvik: > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Lunar wrote: > > > One of the concern that was raised by Moritz is export capabilities of > > > Stack Exchange. How likely are we to switch to a self-hosted application > > > if it means losing data

Re: [tor-talk] Relay Only?

2013-06-17 Thread Andrew Lewman
On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 11:18:20 -0700 Warren Michelsen wrote: > Is there a Linux OS that is best for a Tor relay? (A server > installation, perhaps?) Does it matter? Doesn't matter. I've run a relay on my phone in the past. > Is there a Tor "relay" download or must I install the client to be > able

Re: [tor-talk] Plans about Askbot?

2013-06-17 Thread Runa A. Sandvik
On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:02 PM, Tom Ritter wrote: > On Jun 17, 2013 5:41 PM, "Lunar" wrote: >> >> Runa A. Sandvik: >> > On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Lunar wrote: >> > > One of the concern that was raised by Moritz is export capabilities of >> > > Stack Exchange. How likely are we to switch

[tor-talk] stop page image_thumb from appearing in tabs

2013-06-17 Thread Joe Btfsplk
Must have missed a memo about actual thumbnails (tiny) of pages appearing in each tab, in TBB 2.3.25-8. Not icons - actual thumbs of pages. I don't see that in regular fox, but maybe other addons block that behavior. Do you have to edit an about:config entry to stop them from showing in the

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-17 Thread Cat S
From:Andreas Krey Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2013 12:15 AM Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 19:39:31 +, Mike Perry wrote: ... > Please try these out, test them, and give us feedback! The plan is to > post them on the blog by Monday, unless s

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds (Chrashing upon launch)

2013-06-17 Thread Cat S
Sorry if threading is messed up, I couldn't find you e-mail, this mailing-list shit sucks! Matt Pagan: > On 6/15/13, Georg Koppen wrote: > > On 15.06.2013 09:15, Andreas Krey wrote: > >> On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 19:39:31 +, Mike Perry wrote: > >> ... > >>> Please try these out, test them, and giv

[tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds (Chrash upon launch)

2013-06-17 Thread Cat S
Sorry if threading is messed up, I couldn't find you e-mail, this mailing-list shit sucks! Matt Pagan: > On 6/15/13, Georg Koppen wrote: > > On 15.06.2013 09:15, Andreas Krey wrote: > >> On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 19:39:31 +, Mike Perry wrote: > >> ... > >>> Please try these out, test them, and giv

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-17 Thread Mike Perry
Alright, so now we have at least 4 independent reports of a crash in d2d1.dll, which is Microsoft's 2D acceleration library.. The question now is: What do you guys all have in common that others do not? Do you mind sharing your video cards and/or video driver versions? Cat S: > From:Andreas Kre

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds (Chrash upon launch)

2013-06-17 Thread Cat S
Matt Pagan: > On 6/16/13, Andreas Krey wrote: > > On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 19:09:28 +, Mike Perry wrote: > > ... > >> For everyone who is experiencing these crashes: Do you have a system tor > >> installed? If so, if you uninstall it and reboot, does TBB still crash? > > > > Not sure what 'system t

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds (Chrash upon launch)

2013-06-17 Thread Cat S
Alright, so now we have at least 4 independent reports of a crash in d2d1.dll, which is Microsoft's 2D acceleration library.. The question now is: What do you guys all have in common that others do not? Do you mind sharing your video cards and/or video driver versions? Cat S: >From:Andreas Krey >>

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds (Chrash upon launch)

2013-06-17 Thread Cat S
Andreas Krey: >On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 19:09:28 +, Mike Perry wrote: >... >> For everyone who >is experiencing these crashes: Do you have a system tor >> installed? If so, >if you uninstall it and reboot, does TBB still crash? >>Not sure what 'system >tor' is. I have older TBBs on the system, bu

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds (Chrash upon launch)

2013-06-17 Thread Cat S
Alright, so now we have at least 4 independent reports of a crash in d2d1.dll, which is Microsoft's 2D acceleration library.. The question now is: What do you guys all have in common that others do not? Do you mind sharing your video cards and/or video driver versions? ---

[tor-talk] Until there's a REAL effing way to communicate, that evey1 can use, I'm DONE

2013-06-17 Thread Cat S
Hi all, This mailing-list is a stupid fucking joke, well, at least for those of us who aren't techies. Really, this is stupid, you're not allowing a lot of people to community by using this Ivory tower mailing-list crap. I've been using Tor near 10 years now, and this has GOT to change. It's li

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds [New Nym function]

2013-06-17 Thread Cat S
As this will be my last e-mail until a real solution is found for people to communicate with the Tor community [0], I wanted to make it count: If you're removing Vadalia, please fix the New Nym feature in TorButton! Please allow a users to choose whether we want to only use New Nym (i.e., new ex

Re: [tor-talk] Until there's a REAL effing way to communicate, that evey1 can use, I'm DONE

2013-06-17 Thread Asa Rossoff
Hi Cat, You've been more involved in the Torr community than I over the past 10 years; I'm only newly trying to get really actively involved, and am pretty much new to the scene, so you can bear that in mind. OK, You're mail popped up on my screen at h:26 (to nbe non-specific about my tie zone).

Re: [tor-talk] Plans about Askbot?

2013-06-17 Thread Tom Ritter
Not that, this: http://www.clearbits.net/feeds/creator/146-stack-overflow-data-dump.rss It's torrent of all the data, made every 3 months, in a machine readable format. Frankly, the StackExchange folks are pretty good about this, if they didn't make the data available in that sort of dump, conta

Re: [tor-talk] Until there's a REAL effing way to communicate, that evey1 can use, I'm DONE

2013-06-17 Thread Asa Rossoff
More direct responses: >From: Cat S >Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 5:14 PM >To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org > "real solution" = discussion forum I elaborated on my disagreement in the message I just sent. > I'm going to start an account at stack exchange and try my damndest to > make my question

Re: [tor-talk] Until there's a REAL effing way to communicate, that evey1 can use, I'm DONE

2013-06-17 Thread Cat S
Hi, I don't want to comment on everything you wrote, I agree with most, except about e-mail being preferred by the non-techie type. What I did want to comment on is two things: 1. I would be more than willing to help people that ask questions on a discussion board (forum), as along as it's not

Re: [tor-talk] Until there's a REAL effing way to communicate, that evey1 can use, I'm DONE

2013-06-17 Thread Cat S
Hi, As an addendum, I want to correct phrasing, spelling and add links to the old crappy forum software used by Tor Project that I wouldn't care to use. If we were using a forum, I could simply "Edit" my post and correct the spelling, etc., and not have to send another damn e-mail. This:  "1.

Re: [tor-talk] Until there's a REAL effing way to communicate, that evey1 can use, I'm DONE

2013-06-17 Thread Peter Tonoli
On 6/18/13 11:51 AM, Cat S wrote: > Stop with the fucking madness! Just make a real solution and be done with > it! Otherwise, decrease the lag time between when a message is posted on the > mailing-list and when it reaches my inbox. I mean, what the hell?! Why does > it take so effing long for

Re: [tor-talk] Until there's a REAL effing way to communicate, that evey1 can use, I'm DONE

2013-06-17 Thread Anthony Papillion
Please forgive my top posting. Posting from a mobile device. You seem to have been pretty active in the Tor community over the last decade. If the communications format is so horrible to you, why not do something about it? Instead of going on a mailing list, using offensive language, and s

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-17 Thread Mike Perry
Andreas Krey: > On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 19:39:31 +, Mike Perry wrote: > ... > > Please try these out, test them, and give us feedback! The plan is to > > post them on the blog by Monday, unless something goes horribly wrong. > > > > https://people.torproject.org/~mikeperry/tbb-3.0alpha1-builds/off

Re: [tor-talk] Until there's a REAL effing way to communicate, that evey1 can use, I'm DONE

2013-06-17 Thread Cat S
Hi Peter, From: Peter Tonoli Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 7:34 PM On 6/18/13 11:51 AM, Cat S wrote: > Stop with the fucking madness! Just make a real solution and be done with > it! Otherwise, decrease the lag time between when a message is posted on the > mai

Re: [tor-talk] Until there's a REAL effing way to communicate, that evey1 can use, I'm DONE

2013-06-17 Thread Roman Mamedov
On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 17:14:21 -0700 (PDT) Cat S wrote: > "real solution" = discussion forum Following a dozen forums is a time-consuming hassle, but keeping up with a dozen of mailing lists in a proper client with filtering set-up is just a breeze. The best you will get from your proposed chang

[tor-talk] E-Mail delays // Re: Until there's a REAL effing way to communicate, that evey1 can use, I'm DONE

2013-06-17 Thread Roman Mamedov
On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 17:40:07 -0700 "Asa Rossoff" wrote: > Hi Cat, > You've been more involved in the Torr community than I over the past 10 > years; I'm only newly trying to get really actively involved, and am pretty > much new to the scene, so you can bear that in mind. > > OK, You're mail pop

Re: [tor-talk] Until there's a REAL effing way to communicate, that evey1 can use, I'm DONE

2013-06-17 Thread Cat S
Hello Anthony, From: Anthony Papillion Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 8:03 PM Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Until there's a REAL effing way to communicate, that evey1 can use, I'm DONE You seem to have been pretty active in the Tor community over the last  decade. I

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-17 Thread Cat S
Hi Mike, From: Mike Perry To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds Andreas Krey: > On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 19:39:31 +, Mike Perry wrote: > ... > > Please try these

Re: [tor-talk] Until there's a REAL effing way to communicate, that evey1 can use, I'm DONE

2013-06-17 Thread Cat S
Hi Roman, From: Roman Mamedov Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Until there's a REAL effing way to communicate, that evey1 can use, I'm DONE On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 17:14:21 -0700 (PDT) Cat S wrote: > "real solution" = discussion foru

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-17 Thread Cat S
Hi Mike, Sorry, I forgot to write that I was able to use TBB when I added those two lines [0] to prefs.js, _without_ TBB running in XP SP3 compatibility mode. [0] https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2013-June/028564.html P.S. Sorry for top-posting, but otherwise I would have to wai

Re: [tor-talk] Until there's a REAL effing way to communicate, that evey1 can use, I'm DONE

2013-06-17 Thread Roman Mamedov
On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 22:03:50 -0700 (PDT) Cat S wrote: > 2. Why would we have more than one forum? If there's a single official Tor > forum, then that's that. I meant there is not only the Tor project in my (and others') life. There is a great number of Free/Open Source projects, most of them ha

Re: [tor-talk] "Torifier" for Windows

2013-06-17 Thread Karsten N.
On 17.06.2013 20:21, mancha wrote: > Is there a Tor Project sanctioned method to "torify" > applications on Windows? You may use "Proxifier" for torifying applications that lack native SOCKS support. (windows, macOS) http://www.proxifier.com/ It is not Freeware, not Open Source, not recommende

Re: [tor-talk] "Torifier" for Windows

2013-06-17 Thread Fabio Pietrosanti (naif)
On 6/17/13 9:32 PM, Nick Mathewson wrote: Also, its API hooking system is based on the ubiquitous ZDisasm.c file written by Z0MBiE, who to the best of my knowledge never actually put a license on it. So it might be legally problematic to redistribute (unless I'm wrong about that, and Z0MBiE *