> You failed to demonstrate an understanding of the
> specific situation of wikipedia
Though the wikipedia problem model does apply to other usage scenarios
elsewhere, I did not intend or wish my posts as addressing the
wikipedia subthread but rather the practice of performing just IP
blocking in
On Fri, 19 Apr 2013 03:34:15 +, grarpamp wrote:
...
> As you've noted, reputation (and learning systems in general) are
> a powerful tool over time. With the same noted exception regarding
> new users... the real world tells us that the first driveby from a
> new user bent on trouble may not ev
On 19 April 2013 06:06, raven131 wrote:
> Hi tor-talk
>
> I wish to unscribe now.
>
You can do that yourself. At the bottom of every email is the link
https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk. Click it
and scroll to the bottom.
> The problem, as I understand it, is that wikipedia has: A single
> hellbent user needs 10 minutes to cause trouble that takes an
> hour to fix.
Not knowing the specific case of wikipedia I might suggest
in general...
If you do not require accounts, and are open to the net at large,
you are fight
On 12.04.2013 20:11, grarpamp wrote:
The US does now disclose the aggregate budgets for DoD, DHS, and
intel services under which NSA falls as a non line item. A search will
yield analyst estimates of the actual black amounts, etc. There's even
big wall posters for it all. No budget can exceed tax
> My opinion is ... implement [local] policy ...
Of course... other than following the letter of law for its own
good, a service is free to do as it wishes. Some services choose
the nanny/block role. Others see value or less legal risk by taking
a hands off position.
> services who do not take br
> Oh! The Romantic Life of a Beancounter.
> How about The Politics of Heroin in Southeast Asia? Does that get listed in
> the Congress debate for budget?
Ever see Indiana Jones? Somewhere in that giant warehouse
is the answer you seek. Bring your beancounters and be sure
to pack a lunch :) Suffice
[...]
>> they get attacks, spam, illegal stuff from Tor. While true, that
>> is a drop in the pond when compared to from the internet at large.
>> Yet they don't block the internet, the coffee shops, the cable
>> ranges, Romania, etc.
>
> Coffee shops are a bit difficult to block specifically, but
On Fri, 19 Apr 2013 07:35:27 +, grarpamp wrote:
...
> If you require accounts, invest time in better rollback systems
> so that a single click makes the user and their contributions
> disappear.
You keep ignoring that determined troublemakers can't be forced
to use a single account. Who is det
Edward J. Shornock wrote:
> On 19 April 2013 06:06, raven131 wrote:
>
>> Hi tor-talk
>>
>> I wish to unscribe now.
>>
>
>
> You can do that yourself. At the bottom of every email is the link
> https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk. Click it
> and scroll to the bottom.
Jacob Appelbaum wrote:
> That page is a very predictable side effect of having a flag for people
> with strong need for privacy. I guess we know which Wikipedia users are
> valuable or doing something interesting, right? o_0
Disabling account creation by Tor users also doesn't prevent the mor
On 19.04.2013 16:43, grarpamp wrote:
Oh! The Romantic Life of a Beancounter.
How about The Politics of Heroin in Southeast Asia? Does that get listed in
the Congress debate for budget?
Ever see Indiana Jones? Somewhere in that giant warehouse
is the answer you seek. Bring your beancounters and
Ciprian Dorin Craciun
Ciprian Dorin Craciun
>. But in a large portion (99.9...%) the population is a normal "Internet"
>citizen:
>non-technical, using an assortment of Facebook, YouTube, etc...
Because they have an international appeal Facebook, YouTube and other large
international servi
Reply to:
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 10:32:54 -0400
From: grarpamp
To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org
Subject: Re: [tor-talk] CloudFlare
>Some of them even have that as their advertised featureset,
This was precisely my point. It also shows why you were utterly incorrect to
suggest that
> "Though
On 18.04.2013 23:51, grarpamp wrote:
Of course it isn't imaginary. However this is where kneejerkers are
just being dumb... 2^8 exits will *never* ever be anything in comparison
to the 2^30 IP's reasonably estimated to be actually in use. Ten
square kilo's of your favorite big city has more abusa
On 19.04.2013 13:35, grarpamp wrote:
[1] For instance, email spam. It is not sucessfully fought with
just IP blocks at all. Only when bayes, markov and other adaptive
intelligience and combined systems came online has spamfighting
kept pace. Maybe now they're enough along that if they turned off
On 04/19/2013 05:27 AM, Andreas Krey wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Apr 2013 00:35:58 +, grarpamp wrote:
>> My problem is with simple IP blocking, especially when you take
>> out an entire shared access system such as Tor with it. It's
>> crude and takes the ham with the spam.
>
> Wikipedia obviously
On 19.04.2013 17:52, Ciprian Dorin Craciun wrote:
What makes everybody think that here in Romania we haven't
discovered the hot-water yet? Indeed we do have the usual
script-kiddies and cracker-wana-be's, un-patched (better said cracked)
Windows installations, and the usual... But in a large
On 04/18/2013 08:32 AM, Andrew Lewman wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 23:59:45 -0400
> grarpamp wrote:
>
>> Noticed a recent surge of sites using CloudFlare.
>
> Actually, I've talked to cloudflare in the recent past. They don't
> block Tor per se, they rate limit connections/request per IP address
Dethreading replies and putting people's names in the subject is
not good mail form and is also quite possibly antagonistic, either
of which is unlikely to yield a response, particularly the latter.
Try not to do that :)
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> Lucia added:
> I use Cloudflare. When I experience hacking, spamming scraping or any other
> cpu sucking activity, I use Cloudflares API and ban the IP then unban 7 days
> later. If the IP falls in a pre-identified 'dirty' range, I never unban it.
> Based on my logs I had the distinct impres
Hi, folks.
Somebody just stopped by a couple of the Tor IRC channels and linked
to something that was supposed to be the result of "redoing vadalia
[sic] in java." Instead, it turned out to be (apparently[*]) an
updated variant of the Java trojan described in
http://community.websense.com/blogs/s
Is it safe to download files using tor? When I download a file my speed is much
greater than would be a normal speed under tor, so I think downloads does not
obey proxy settings.
(I am Latin and use a translator to write)
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I reply to the digest which contains the subject "grarpamp at gmail.com " I
clicked "reply" but recongizing that's not a useful title, I cut and paste a
relevant subject. All additional dethreading is caused by the mail server.
I noticed this dethreads so I posted th
> In reply to:
> From: grarpamp
> To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org
First: I apologize for any dethreading that might occur. I cut and pasted the
title from the digest. As I said: If you can explain how to avoid dethreading,
I'd welcome the information. In the meantime, I am going to cut and p
>> If you require accounts, invest time in better rollback systems
>> so that a single click makes the user and their contributions
>> disappear.
>>
>> You keep ignoring that determined troublemakers can't be forced
>> to use a single account. Who is determined to creatively
>> deface user generate
http://wikileaks.org/Transcript-Meeting-Assange-Schmidt
"
Transcript of secret meeting between Julian Assange and Google CEO Eric Schmidt
Friday April 19, 2013
On the 23 of June, 2011 a secret five hour meeting took place between
WikiLeaks publisher Julian Assange, who was under house arrest in
r
On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 1:22 AM, NoName wrote:
> On 19.04.2013 17:52, Ciprian Dorin Craciun wrote:
>>
>> What makes everybody think that here in Romania we haven't
>> discovered the hot-water yet? Indeed we do have the usual
>> script-kiddies and cracker-wana-be's, un-patched (better said cra
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