Re: [tor-talk] how bridges work

2012-05-07 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Sun, May 06, 2012 at 05:07:26AM -0400, eliaz wrote: > Of what use is a bridge working off an IP address of a provider located > in, say, the US, to a client in, say, Syria? Sorry for the elementary > question. - eli The client in Syria can connect through the bridge in the US to reach the Tor n

Re: [tor-talk] Towards a Torbutton for Thunderbird (torbutton-birdy)

2012-05-07 Thread Mix+TB Test
>> DNS and other connections leak during account creation (when Thunderbird >> is trying to work out how to connect), but after that I can receive >> (IMAP w/STARTTLS, IMAPS) and send (Submission w/STARTTLS, SMTPS) without >> seeing any leaks, including no DNS leaks. I can also see the connections

Re: [tor-talk] Towards a Torbutton for Thunderbird (torbutton-birdy)

2012-05-07 Thread Sukhbir Singh
Hi, > I didn't see the Message ID as harmful, but I'm more than happy to be > educated on this front. I do see the timezone leakage as a problem. The Message-ID used by Thunderbird consists of two parts: the Unix timestamp in hexadecimal format (which matches the time in the 'Date' header) and a

Re: [tor-talk] Towards a Torbutton for Thunderbird (torbutton-birdy)

2012-05-07 Thread Mix+TB Test
Sukhbir Singh wrote: >> I didn't see the Message ID as harmful, but I'm more than happy to be >> educated on this front. I do see the timezone leakage as a problem. > > The Message-ID used by Thunderbird consists of two parts: the Unix > timestamp in hexadecimal format (which matches the time in t

Re: [tor-talk] how bridges work

2012-05-07 Thread eliaz
On 5/7/2012 2:20 AM, Roger Dingledine wrote: > On Sun, May 06, 2012 at 05:07:26AM -0400, eliaz wrote: >> Of what use is a bridge working off an IP address of a provider located >> in, say, the US, to a client in, say, Syria? Sorry for the elementary >> question. - eli > > The client in Syria can c

Re: [tor-talk] Towards a Torbutton for Thunderbird (torbutton-birdy)

2012-05-07 Thread anonym
05/06/2012 03:57 PM, Jacob Appelbaum: >> A few Tor hackers (Sukhbir, tagnar, myself, etc) are working on a >> plugin for Thunderbird that attempts to Torify it properly. The >> codename for now is 'torbutton-birdy' and it is based largely on >> the seminal analysis[-1] by tagnaq. Two core goals

Re: [tor-talk] Towards a Torbutton for Thunderbird (torbutton-birdy)

2012-05-07 Thread tagnaq
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi mix.tb, I'm curious whether you did write the following line - especially the word 'wrote' yourself or not? > Jacob Appelbaum wrote: The word 'wrote' shouldn't be there - at least not auto generated by TB after installing the extension (languag

Re: [tor-talk] Towards a Torbutton for Thunderbird (torbutton-birdy)

2012-05-07 Thread anonym
05/07/2012 05:33 PM, anonym: > (Since the repo is huge (and there's no gitweb AFAIK) I also attached > the commits as git patches. This were written for Thunderbird 8, but I > know they apply cleanly to TB 10 as well.) Hm. I can see that the patches were attached in my outgoing email, but that the

Re: [tor-talk] Towards a Torbutton for Thunderbird (torbutton-birdy)

2012-05-07 Thread Jacob Appelbaum
On 05/07/2012 05:02 AM, Mix+TB Test wrote: >>> DNS and other connections leak during account creation (when Thunderbird >>> is trying to work out how to connect), but after that I can receive >>> (IMAP w/STARTTLS, IMAPS) and send (Submission w/STARTTLS, SMTPS) without >>> seeing any leaks, includin

Re: [tor-talk] Towards a Torbutton for Thunderbird (torbutton-birdy)

2012-05-07 Thread Jacob Appelbaum
On 05/07/2012 11:33 AM, anonym wrote: > 05/06/2012 03:57 PM, Jacob Appelbaum: >>> A few Tor hackers (Sukhbir, tagnar, myself, etc) are working on a >>> plugin for Thunderbird that attempts to Torify it properly. The >>> codename for now is 'torbutton-birdy' and it is based largely on >>> the sem

Re: [tor-talk] Towards a Torbutton for Thunderbird (torbutton-birdy)

2012-05-07 Thread tagnaq
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 > [1] https://tails.boum.org/todo/Return_of_Icedove__63__/ "Trying to hide we use Icedove seem unrealistic and/or impractical a goal, at least to start with. Therefore, we'll ignore tagnaq's suggestions whose single aim is that one." Why do you th

Re: [tor-talk] Towards a Torbutton for Thunderbird (torbutton-birdy)

2012-05-07 Thread Jacob Appelbaum
On 05/07/2012 03:43 PM, anonym wrote: > 05/07/2012 05:33 PM, anonym: >> (Since the repo is huge (and there's no gitweb AFAIK) I also attached >> the commits as git patches. This were written for Thunderbird 8, but I >> know they apply cleanly to TB 10 as well.) > ... > Hm. I can see that the pat

Re: [tor-talk] how bridges work

2012-05-07 Thread Tim Wilde
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > Thanks for the reassurance about the process. While I accept the > free-speech basis of Tor (that "bad" as well as "good" guys can use > it) and the assumption that the network is overall doing more good > than bad, I've been concerned at the high u

[tor-talk] orbot vs. tor

2012-05-07 Thread Rhona Mahony
If Orbot can transparently proxy traffic from an Android phone--browser, chat, email--why can't Tor do it for a laptop or desktop? Incorrect premise? ~~Newbie here. -- Rhona Mahony rmah...@stanford.edu Try http://googlesharing.net or https://startpage.com to search Google but keep your privacy

Re: [tor-talk] orbot vs. tor

2012-05-07 Thread warms0x
> If Orbot can transparently proxy traffic from an Android phone--browser, > chat, email--why can't Tor do it for a laptop or desktop? Incorrect > premise? Orbot is built on top of the Tor network. Perhaps the closest thing for the desktop would be Vidalia combined with the Tor Browser Bundle?