On 1/29/2013 5:55 PM, Katya Titov wrote:
> Katya Titov :
>
> Thanks all for the information, and sorry for the double post. To
> summarise, I see that the issues can be grouped into three areas:
> privacy, political and technology.
> The privacy side is about selecting what you require. This inc
Katya Titov :
> Raynardine :
>
> > I do not like connecting to clearnet services from Tor.
> >
> > I am not alone in this.
> >
> > There are arguments about the reasons why Tor hidden services can be
> > better than clearnet services for users as well, but that would
> > derail this thread.
>
Thank you.
To elaborate on those points:
1) Encrypted end-to-end (or "Tor" to "Tor")
The end to end encryption (AKA "E2E") is one of the most important
design aspects that could possibly exist.
2) Therefore not dependent on SSL
SSL/TLS would be fine it they did not rely on Certificate Auth
>From point of view of hosting a hidden service, which is not hosted by
anonymous people and which may alternatively also provide a clearnet domain.
Positive aspects for hidden services over clearnet:
1) encrypted end-to-end (or "Tor" to "Tor")
2) therefore not dependent on SSL
3) hidden servic
On 1/29/2013 9:20 AM, k e bera wrote:
> In the clearnet case, operators are accountable for their public promises and
> by established norms and legalities of internet behaviour.
What accountability? You mean the nice kind policemen in their blue
shirts and shiny Justice-delivering guns?
Sure,
Both hidden and clearnet services can gather information to build profiles of
their users over time, and try to correlate it with information from other
services. What is stopping the operators from exploiting that information
contrary to interests of the users?
In the clearnet case, operators
On 1/29/2013 6:48 AM, Katya Titov wrote:
> Raynardine :
>
>> I do not like connecting to clearnet services from Tor.
>>
>> I am not alone in this.
>>
>> There are arguments about the reasons why Tor hidden services can be
>> better than clearnet services for users as well, but that would derail
>>
On 1/29/2013 6:39 AM, Katya Titov wrote:
> Raynardine :
>
>> I do not like connecting to clearnet services from Tor.
>>
>> I am not alone in this.
>>
>> There are arguments about the reasons why Tor hidden services can be
>> better than clearnet services for users as well, but that would derail
>>
