Re: [tor-talk] Find Real IP via ISP.

2016-11-25 Thread Seth David Schoen
Jason Long writes: > Are you kidding? Iranian relays are good in this scenario? Why? Because they might be less likely to cooperate with ISPs in other countries to track Tor traffic. -- Seth Schoen Senior Staff Technologist https://www.eff.org/ Electronic Frontier Founda

Re: [tor-talk] Find Real IP via ISP.

2016-11-23 Thread Jason Long
Are you kidding? Iranian relays are good in this scenario? Why? On Wed, 11/23/16, Jonathan Marquardt wrote: Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Find Real IP via ISP. To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org Date: Wednesday, November 23, 2016, 7:16 AM Yes, luckily

Re: [tor-talk] Find Real IP via ISP.

2016-11-23 Thread Jason Long
Are you kidding? Iranian relays are good in this scenario? Why? On Wed, 11/23/16, Jonathan Marquardt wrote: Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Find Real IP via ISP. To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org Date: Wednesday, November 23, 2016, 7:16 AM Yes, luckily

Re: [tor-talk] Find Real IP via ISP.

2016-11-23 Thread Jonathan Marquardt
Yes, luckily that's not happening yet. At least not on a large scale. In order for that technique to really work out, all ISPs in all countries your Tor connection goes through would need to work together. The more geographically and politically diverse the countries your Tor circuit goes throu

Re: [tor-talk] Find Real IP via ISP.

2016-11-22 Thread tortalk
Hi Torusers, On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 3:41 PM, juanjo wrote: > Of course, if all ISP form all the world started to log all connections > they could follow the path and find your original IP. This is something > UK is starting to do now... and many goverments want. That would be interesting

Re: [tor-talk] Find Real IP via ISP.

2016-11-22 Thread Mirimir
On 11/22/2016 07:22 AM, Jason Long wrote: > Thus we must not Visit a site with and without Tor in a same time? Unless you're very careful not to associate the connections, it's a bad idea. For casual sock-puppetting, I suppose that it's OK ;) > On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 5:25 PM, Mirimir wrot

Re: [tor-talk] Find Real IP via ISP.

2016-11-22 Thread Jason Long
Thus we must not Visit a site with and without Tor in a same time? On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 5:25 PM, Mirimir wrote: On 11/22/2016 04:48 AM, Jason Long wrote: > Hello. > As "Seth David Schoen" said, Governments can see that users using > tor but can't see what they are doing. My question

Re: [tor-talk] Find Real IP via ISP.

2016-11-22 Thread Mirimir
On 11/22/2016 04:48 AM, Jason Long wrote: > Hello. > As "Seth David Schoen" said, Governments can see that users using > tor but can't see what they are doing. My questions is that if an > ISP see that an IP address, For example, 100.100.100.1 connected > to the Tor network and user IP address ch

Re: [tor-talk] Find Real IP via ISP.

2016-11-22 Thread Jason Long
Oh, You mean is that all ISPs contribute to each other? On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 3:41 PM, juanjo wrote: No, your ISP can't see your Tor exit IP. Of course, if all ISP form all the world started to log all connections they could follow the path and find your original IP. This is something

Re: [tor-talk] Find Real IP via ISP.

2016-11-22 Thread juanjo
No, your ISP can't see your Tor exit IP. Of course, if all ISP form all the world started to log all connections they could follow the path and find your original IP. This is something UK is starting to do now... and many goverments want. El 22/11/2016 a las 13:02, Jason Long escribió: Thus

Re: [tor-talk] Find Real IP via ISP.

2016-11-22 Thread Jason Long
Thus, ISP can't see my Tor IP? On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 3:27 PM, juanjo wrote: ISP can't see that the user "changed" his IP adress on Tor. What you said could work on single-hop proxies or VPN, but not on Tor, remember on Tor you have not one but three hops. ISP can only see you are con

Re: [tor-talk] Find Real IP via ISP.

2016-11-22 Thread juanjo
ISP can't see that the user "changed" his IP adress on Tor. What you said could work on single-hop proxies or VPN, but not on Tor, remember on Tor you have not one but three hops. ISP can only see you are connecting to the first hop, not the remaining two (middle and exit, exit is the IP that t