Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-19 Thread Steve Crook
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 11:05:12PM -0700, Mike Perry wrote: > > Ok, we have a new hypothesis. > > One of the crash scenarios seems to be if you install to non-Desktop > (such as C:\Program Files (x86)\) as Administratror, and then try to run > it as non-Administrator. > > Are any of you who expe

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-18 Thread Peter Retzlaff
2013/6/18 Cat S > Hi Mike, > > > > From: Mike Perry > To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org > Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 8:13 PM > Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds > > > Andreas Krey: > > O

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-17 Thread Cat S
wait at least 10-15 minutes for the e-mail I sent the list (~1 minute ago) to reach my in-box, and I'm ready for bed . . . From: Mike Perry To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0a

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-17 Thread Cat S
Hi Mike, From: Mike Perry To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds Andreas Krey: > On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 19:39:31 +, Mike Perry wrote: > ... > > Plea

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-17 Thread Mike Perry
Andreas Krey: > On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 19:39:31 +, Mike Perry wrote: > ... > > Please try these out, test them, and give us feedback! The plan is to > > post them on the blog by Monday, unless something goes horribly wrong. > > > > https://people.torproject.org/~mikeperry/tbb-3.0alpha1-builds/off

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds [New Nym function]

2013-06-17 Thread Cat S
As this will be my last e-mail until a real solution is found for people to communicate with the Tor community [0], I wanted to make it count: If you're removing Vadalia, please fix the New Nym feature in TorButton! Please allow a users to choose whether we want to only use New Nym (i.e., new ex

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds (Chrash upon launch)

2013-06-17 Thread Cat S
Alright, so now we have at least 4 independent reports of a crash in d2d1.dll, which is Microsoft's 2D acceleration library.. The question now is: What do you guys all have in common that others do not? Do you mind sharing your video cards and/or video driver versions? ---

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds (Chrash upon launch)

2013-06-17 Thread Cat S
Andreas Krey: >On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 19:09:28 +, Mike Perry wrote: >... >> For everyone who >is experiencing these crashes: Do you have a system tor >> installed? If so, >if you uninstall it and reboot, does TBB still crash? >>Not sure what 'system >tor' is. I have older TBBs on the system, bu

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds (Chrash upon launch)

2013-06-17 Thread Cat S
eas Krey >>Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2013 12:15 AM >Subject: Re: >[tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds >>>On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 >19:39:31 +, Mike Perry wrote: >... >> Please try these out, test them, and >give us feedback! The plan is t

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds (Chrash upon launch)

2013-06-17 Thread Cat S
Matt Pagan: > On 6/16/13, Andreas Krey wrote: > > On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 19:09:28 +, Mike Perry wrote: > > ... > >> For everyone who is experiencing these crashes: Do you have a system tor > >> installed? If so, if you uninstall it and reboot, does TBB still crash? > > > > Not sure what 'system t

[tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds (Chrash upon launch)

2013-06-17 Thread Cat S
Sorry if threading is messed up, I couldn't find you e-mail, this mailing-list shit sucks! Matt Pagan: > On 6/15/13, Georg Koppen wrote: > > On 15.06.2013 09:15, Andreas Krey wrote: > >> On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 19:39:31 +, Mike Perry wrote: > >> ... > >>> Please try these out, test them, and giv

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-17 Thread Mike Perry
:Andreas Krey > > Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2013 12:15 AM > Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds > > > On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 19:39:31 +, Mike Perry wrote: > ... > > Please try these out, test them, and give us feedback! The plan is to > >

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds (Chrashing upon launch)

2013-06-17 Thread Cat S
Sorry if threading is messed up, I couldn't find you e-mail, this mailing-list shit sucks! Matt Pagan: > On 6/15/13, Georg Koppen wrote: > > On 15.06.2013 09:15, Andreas Krey wrote: > >> On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 19:39:31 +, Mike Perry wrote: > >> ... > >>> Please try these out, test them, and giv

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-17 Thread Cat S
From:Andreas Krey Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2013 12:15 AM Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 19:39:31 +, Mike Perry wrote: ... > Please try these out, test them, and give us feedback! The plan is to > post them on the blog by Monday,

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-17 Thread The Doctor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/15/2013 06:58 AM, Moritz Bartl wrote: > I tried both. Many people *will* overwrite their old TBB, so even > then it should work. We get A LOT of support tickets from people > that overwrite their old directory. You told everyone a while ago > th

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-17 Thread adrelanos
Abel Luck: > Is using the TorBrowser with a transparent tor router no longer > supported in this version? > > I couldn't find an such option in the startup wizard. Set the TOR_SKIP_LAUNCH variable [1] to 1. export TOR_SKIP_LAUNCH=1 This will result in skipping the startup wizard. [1] https

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-17 Thread Andrew Lewman
On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 08:09:33 -0400 Andrew Lewman wrote: > > In the meantime, I've synced the mirrors to create this url, which > > should be up shortly: > > https://www.torproject.org/dist/torbrowser/3.0a1 > > I ended up removing this directory because we ran out of disk space on > a few of the

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-17 Thread Andrew Lewman
On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 00:33:07 -0700 Mike Perry wrote: > I would like to blog about these bundles tomorrow morning. Where can > they go for that announcement? Leaving them on people is fine with me. > I don't appear to have access to archive, nor do I have the > infrastructure to set up and seed

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-17 Thread Mike Perry
Andrew Lewman: > On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 17:44:14 -0700 > Micah Lee wrote: > > > But soon (maybe Monday with your blog post) they will be here too? > > https://www.torproject.org/dist/torbrowser/linux/ > > Really, you should be using archive.torproject.org, not www. archive > links aren't likely to

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-17 Thread Abel Luck
Mike Perry: > The new TBB 3.0 series is almost ready for its first alpha release! > > Here are the major highlights of the 3.0 series: > > 1. Usability, usability, usability! We've attempted to solve several > major usability issues in this series, including: > > A. No more Vidalia. The

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-16 Thread Andrew Lewman
On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 17:44:14 -0700 Micah Lee wrote: > But soon (maybe Monday with your blog post) they will be here too? > https://www.torproject.org/dist/torbrowser/linux/ Really, you should be using archive.torproject.org, not www. archive links aren't likely to change ever. The main web serve

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-16 Thread Matt Pagan
Mike Perry: > Matt Pagan: >> On 6/16/13, Andreas Krey wrote: >>> On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 19:09:28 +, Mike Perry wrote: >>> ... For everyone who is experiencing these crashes: Do you have a system tor installed? If so, if you uninstall it and reboot, does TBB still crash? >>> >>> Not sure

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-16 Thread Micah Lee
On 06/15/2013 07:22 PM, Mike Perry wrote: >> > And do you think it would be possible to only update >> > RecommendedTBBVersions when there's an associated tarball available >> > for download in a predictable place so that we don't get into a >> > situation where there's an updated version but TBL c

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-16 Thread lists
This is also the case with tor-browser-linux32-3.0-alpha-1_fa.tar.xz - no text is displayed on the first screen that opens after running the program, and both the 'connect' and 'configure' buttons are blank. Arjan: > On 2013-06-15 04:39, Mike Perry wrote: >> The new TBB 3.0 series is almost ready

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-16 Thread Arjan
On 2013-06-15 04:39, Mike Perry wrote: > The new TBB 3.0 series is almost ready for its first alpha release! > > Please try these out, test them, and give us feedback! The plan is to > post them on the blog by Monday, unless something goes horribly wrong. > > https://people.torproject.org/~mikepe

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-16 Thread Andreas Krey
On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 23:05:12 +, Mike Perry wrote: ... > Are any of you who experience crashes installing to the Desktop (the > default)? I have it in the desktop, just renamed the folder (and did installation and execution as the same user). But I will try a different machine on monday; this o

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-15 Thread Georg Koppen
> Linux: > Every first time I run it after extraction, it immediately launches Tor > Browser and shows what looks like the default Mozilla start page. When I > try to open any other page, it gives me a proxy error. > When I close it, and run it again, > - en_US: the Tor Network Settings wizard come

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-15 Thread Mike Perry
Matt Pagan: > On 6/16/13, Andreas Krey wrote: > > On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 19:09:28 +, Mike Perry wrote: > > ... > >> For everyone who is experiencing these crashes: Do you have a system tor > >> installed? If so, if you uninstall it and reboot, does TBB still crash? > > > > Not sure what 'system t

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-15 Thread Matt Pagan
On 6/16/13, Andreas Krey wrote: > On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 19:09:28 +, Mike Perry wrote: > ... >> For everyone who is experiencing these crashes: Do you have a system tor >> installed? If so, if you uninstall it and reboot, does TBB still crash? > > Not sure what 'system tor' is. I have older TBBs

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-15 Thread Mike Perry
Andreas Krey: > On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 19:09:28 +, Mike Perry wrote: > ... > > For everyone who is experiencing these crashes: Do you have a system tor > > installed? If so, if you uninstall it and reboot, does TBB still crash? > > Not sure what 'system tor' is. I have older TBBs on the system, b

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-15 Thread Andreas Krey
On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 19:09:28 +, Mike Perry wrote: ... > For everyone who is experiencing these crashes: Do you have a system tor > installed? If so, if you uninstall it and reboot, does TBB still crash? Not sure what 'system tor' is. I have older TBBs on the system, but they shouldn't do anyth

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-15 Thread Mike Perry
Micah Lee: > Hey Mike, I have a question about filenames. > > The 3.0 alpha1s are all hosted here for now? > https://people.torproject.org/~mikeperry/tbb-3.0alpha1-builds/official/ > > But soon (maybe Monday with your blog post) they will be here too? > https://www.torproject.org/dist/torbrowser

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-15 Thread Mike Perry
Matt Pagan: > On 6/15/13, Georg Koppen wrote: > > On 15.06.2013 09:15, Andreas Krey wrote: > >> On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 19:39:31 +, Mike Perry wrote: > >> ... > >>> Please try these out, test them, and give us feedback! The plan is to > >>> post them on the blog by Monday, unless something goes ho

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-15 Thread Micah Lee
Hey Mike, I have a question about filenames. The 3.0 alpha1s are all hosted here for now? https://people.torproject.org/~mikeperry/tbb-3.0alpha1-builds/official/ But soon (maybe Monday with your blog post) they will be here too? https://www.torproject.org/dist/torbrowser/linux/ Tor Browser Launc

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-15 Thread Matt Pagan
On 6/15/13, Georg Koppen wrote: > On 15.06.2013 09:15, Andreas Krey wrote: >> On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 19:39:31 +, Mike Perry wrote: >> ... >>> Please try these out, test them, and give us feedback! The plan is to >>> post them on the blog by Monday, unless something goes horribly wrong. >>> >>> ht

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-15 Thread Georg Koppen
On 15.06.2013 09:15, Andreas Krey wrote: > On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 19:39:31 +, Mike Perry wrote: > ... >> Please try these out, test them, and give us feedback! The plan is to >> post them on the blog by Monday, unless something goes horribly wrong. >> >> https://people.torproject.org/~mikeperry/tb

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-15 Thread Andrew Lewman
On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 13:59:34 +0300 irregula...@riseup.net wrote: > So since Vidalia is removed, there is no easy way for the average user > to run a relay? Or you will still distribute packages with Vidalia for > this exact reason? Vidalia isn't need to run a relay, it just gives it more eye cand

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-15 Thread adrelanos
Hi, there is one small problem when using a transparent Tor proxy. The TOR_SKIP_LAUNCH variable [1] for tor-launcher is set. export TOR_SKIP_LAUNCH=1 So its skipping the tor-launcher connection wizard as expected, but TorButton is disabled and about:tor fails. Something Went Wrong!

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-15 Thread J. Perry
Moritz Bartl: > On 15.06.2013 13:15, J. Perry wrote: >> Is this release going to break Torbirdy since Torbirdy requires Vidalia? > > As far as I know, Torbirdy by default requires Tor listening on port > 9150, which is still the case with the new TBB. It does not require Vidalia. > Great!! That'

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-15 Thread Moritz Bartl
On 15.06.2013 13:15, J. Perry wrote: > Is this release going to break Torbirdy since Torbirdy requires Vidalia? As far as I know, Torbirdy by default requires Tor listening on port 9150, which is still the case with the new TBB. It does not require Vidalia. -- Moritz Bartl https://www.torservers

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-15 Thread J. Perry
Moritz Bartl: > On 15.06.2013 12:59, irregula...@riseup.net wrote: >> So since Vidalia is removed, there is no easy way for the average user >> to run a relay? Or you will still distribute packages with Vidalia for >> this exact reason? > > Nowadays, the added value of relays on a 'residential con

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-15 Thread Moritz Bartl
On 15.06.2013 12:59, irregula...@riseup.net wrote: > So since Vidalia is removed, there is no easy way for the average user > to run a relay? Or you will still distribute packages with Vidalia for > this exact reason? Nowadays, the added value of relays on a 'residential connection' is disputable.

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-15 Thread irregulator
So since Vidalia is removed, there is no easy way for the average user to run a relay? Or you will still distribute packages with Vidalia for this exact reason? I tried linux64 version and works well. Greetings. On 06/15/2013 05:39 AM, Mike Perry wrote: > The new TBB 3.0 series is almost ready f

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-15 Thread Moritz Bartl
On 15.06.2013 05:50, Mike Perry wrote: > Can anyone else reproduce this? I am not able to. I've been using > various versions of the en_US bundles for about a month now just fine, > including the "official" ones I linked to in the parent post. > > Are you sure you're not overwriting an old copy wi

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-15 Thread Andreas Krey
On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 19:39:31 +, Mike Perry wrote: ... > Please try these out, test them, and give us feedback! The plan is to > post them on the blog by Monday, unless something goes horribly wrong. > > https://people.torproject.org/~mikeperry/tbb-3.0alpha1-builds/official/ Erm, I used torbro

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-14 Thread Mike Perry
Should be fixed. Good luck! Micah Lee: > This is awesome! Can you fix a typo in this file? > https://check.torproject.org/RecommendedTBBVersions > > It says: > > [ > "2.3.25-8-MacOS", > "2.3.25-8-Windows", > "2.3.25-8-Linux", > "2.3.25-9-Linux", > "2.4.12-alpha-2-MacOS", > "2.4.12-alpha-2-Windo

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-14 Thread Micah Lee
This is awesome! Can you fix a typo in this file? https://check.torproject.org/RecommendedTBBVersions It says: [ "2.3.25-8-MacOS", "2.3.25-8-Windows", "2.3.25-8-Linux", "2.3.25-9-Linux", "2.4.12-alpha-2-MacOS", "2.4.12-alpha-2-Windows", "2.4.12-alpha-2-Linux" "3.0-alpha-1-Linux" "3.0-alpha-1-MacO

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-14 Thread Mike Perry
Moritz Bartl: > Hi Mike, > > In short: This is awesome! > > I suggest to get some things fixed before you do a blog post :-) > > 32-bit vs. 64-bit: > When I try to run the linux32 version on my 64bit system, it just says > "Tor Browser exited abnormally. Exit code: 255". This should be fixed, a

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-14 Thread Moritz Bartl
On 15.06.2013 05:38, Jeffrey Walton wrote: >> I wrote a small patch for the launcher that should detect this properly >> for Linux, and is easy to port to Mac. It's been in needs_review for 3 >> months: https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/3841 > Mac OS X may not be as simple as it appea

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-14 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 11:21 PM, Moritz Bartl wrote: > Hi Mike, > > In short: This is awesome! > > I suggest to get some things fixed before you do a blog post :-) > > 32-bit vs. 64-bit: > When I try to run the linux32 version on my 64bit system, it just says > "Tor Browser exited abnormally. Exi

Re: [tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-14 Thread Moritz Bartl
Hi Mike, In short: This is awesome! I suggest to get some things fixed before you do a blog post :-) 32-bit vs. 64-bit: When I try to run the linux32 version on my 64bit system, it just says "Tor Browser exited abnormally. Exit code: 255". This should be fixed, a *lot* of users pick the wrong on

[tor-talk] Tor Browser Bundle 3.0alpha1 test builds

2013-06-14 Thread Mike Perry
The new TBB 3.0 series is almost ready for its first alpha release! Here are the major highlights of the 3.0 series: 1. Usability, usability, usability! We've attempted to solve several major usability issues in this series, including: A. No more Vidalia. The Tor process management is h