Re: [tor-relays] case law on for exit nodes

think it's time for a congress of internet owners about how to remove the zionist threat that is disney, sony, universal, and the banks that own them as well as the corrupted us regime etc from our networks. why let them make propaganda over -our- infrastructure while on the other hand they are

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it all just boils down to one thing. us senate + whitehouse are infiltrated by zionists and they are shutting down any means of communication that isn't owned or controlled by zionists one by one... this whole thing is not about "copyright" or "money" at all, its about total world domination a

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btw nanog is full of dusty nerds that are either no longer entitled to act on behalf of what used to be -their- companies or don't have the balls to do so, you can forget anything there that goes beyond the level of organizing a garage sale, let alone a revolution. On Fri, 25 May 2012, grarpa

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> There's a thread about it on NANOG right now. Presumably this one... "ISPs and full packet inspection" http://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2012-May/048364.html That seems to be more about network ops than targeting specific users. There's a world of difference between routine sniffing of y

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On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 01:40:13PM -0400, grarpamp wrote: > >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Letter > > Further, judges are always available, including secret FISA ones. > Go get it signed by a judge before trying to order people > around with what amounts to a request on pretty

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>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Letter Further, judges are always available, including secret FISA ones. Go get it signed by a judge before trying to order people around with what amounts to a request on pretty letterhead. I'd be afraid of complying with anything NOT signed by

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>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Letter > > I would also like to take this opportunity to display my "I have not > received an NSL" card. > > I think it's still legal to do *that*, right? ;) Setting aside the inalienability of the hole in our face, some wobbly strips of flesh, som

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Thus spake Andy Isaacson (a...@hexapodia.org): > On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 10:10:48PM +0200, Rejo Zenger wrote: > > > There are at least two cases where the exit operator has been > > > slapped with a 'national security' gag order and cannot talk about > > > the case. > > > > These two are both Ger

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On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 10:10:48PM +0200, Rejo Zenger wrote: > > There are at least two cases where the exit operator has been > > slapped with a 'national security' gag order and cannot talk about > > the case. > > These two are both German cases? - if you are allowed to elaborate on > that. I h

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On Thu, 24 May 2012 22:10:48 +0200 Rejo Zenger wrote: > > There are at least two cases where the exit operator has been > > slapped with a 'national security' gag order and cannot talk about > > the case. In > > These two are both German cases? - if you are allowed to elaborate on > that. I cann

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Hi Andrew, Thanks a lot for the extensive answer! > morphium may have been the only one to actually go to court. Most times > the computers are seized and a forensics person analyzes them to find [...] Yes. He has explained to me there were two cases where he was taken to court as a result from

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--- On Wed, 5/23/12, Fabio Pietrosanti (naif) wrote: > It means that even if you are innocent, for each penal issue > it happen to you, you have to stay in the justice loop for many > years. Not being charged is often worse than being charged. Being charged and going to court can lead to closur

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On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 07:44:48AM +0200, r...@zenger.nl wrote 2.4K bytes in 67 lines about: : Thanks! Someone sent me a few links to one or more cases in Germany, related to wikileaks.de. If you come across more, please let me know. To be clear, wikileaks.de and tor are completely separate case

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On 5/23/12 12:47 AM, Mike Perry wrote: > AFAIK, this is still true in the US. However, I'm pretty sure I've seen > at least 3 court cases in the EU on this list (though too busy to dig > them up right now). There have also been several equipment seizures in > the EU that never escalated to a court

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On 23 mei 2012, at 07:55, grarpamp wrote: >>> I am especially interested in case law from countries in Europe >> >> Contact ccc.de. > > also: exitno...@lists.ccc.de Thanks! -- Rejo Zenger . . 0x21DBEFD4 . GPG encrypted e-mail preferred . +31.6.39642738 . @rejozenger

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>> I am especially interested in case law from countries in Europe > > Contact ccc.de. also: exitno...@lists.ccc.de ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays

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On 23 mei 2012, at 01:24, Samuel Whited wrote: > While I've never heard of anyone being indicted (in the US or EU) for > running an exit node, there have been many cases of equipment seizure > all over the world. > > These might be of interest to you: > > https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/08/w

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On 23 mei 2012, at 00:47, Mike Perry wrote: > AFAIK, this is still true in the US. However, I'm pretty sure I've seen > at least 3 court cases in the EU on this list (though too busy to dig > them up right now). There have also been several equipment seizures in > the EU that never escalated to a

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On 23 mei 2012, at 00:20, Daniel Case wrote: > Who knows about cases where the owner of Tor exit node was prosecuted or > taken to court for information that was up- or downloaded using his/her Tor > node? Basically, I'm looking for case law on running Tor exit-nodes. > > From the Legal FAQ: >

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> I am especially interested in case law from countries in Europe Contact ccc.de. ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays

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>> AFAIK, this is still true in the US. However, I'm pretty sure I've seen >> at least 3 court cases in the EU on this list (though too busy to dig >> them up right now). There have also been several equipment seizures in >> the EU that never escalated to a court case... It does happen that exits

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On Tue, 2012-05-22 at 23:12 +0200, Rejo Zenger wrote: > Hi, > > Who knows about cases where the owner of Tor exit node was prosecuted or > taken to court for information that was up- or downloaded using his/her Tor > node? Basically, I'm looking for case law on running Tor exit-nodes. I am > es

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On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 6:47 PM, Mike Perry wrote: > Thus spake Daniel Case (danielcas...@gmail.com): > > AFAIK, this is still true in the US. However, I'm pretty sure I've seen > at least 3 court cases in the EU on this list (though too busy to dig > them up right now). There have also been sever

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Thus spake Daniel Case (danielcas...@gmail.com): > On 22 May 2012 22:12, Rejo Zenger wrote: > > > > Who knows about cases where the owner of Tor exit node was prosecuted or > > taken to court for information that was up- or downloaded using his/her Tor > > node? Basically, I'm looking for case la

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Hi Rejo, On 22 May 2012 22:12, Rejo Zenger wrote: > > > Who knows about cases where the owner of Tor exit node was prosecuted or > taken to court for information that was up- or downloaded using his/her Tor > node? Basically, I'm looking for case law on running Tor exit-nodes. >From the Legal F

[tor-relays] case law on for exit nodes

Hi, Who knows about cases where the owner of Tor exit node was prosecuted or taken to court for information that was up- or downloaded using his/her Tor node? Basically, I'm looking for case law on running Tor exit-nodes. I am especially interested in case law from countries in Europe, but othe