Re: [tor-relays] Search warrant and house search because of an exit in DE

2016-05-05 Thread dan
> On May 4, 2016 at 8:35 PM Moritz Bartl wrote: > > > On 05/04/2016 05:16 PM, dan wrote: > > also be aware that your actions might create precedence [correction: > > precendent] for other relay > > operators. > > > > I.e. if everyone would decrypt their disks when asked without legal > > obli

Re: [tor-relays] Search warrant and house search because of an exit in DE

2016-05-04 Thread Moritz Bartl
On 05/04/2016 05:16 PM, dan wrote: > also be aware that your actions might create precedence for other relay > operators. > > I.e. if everyone would decrypt their disks when asked without legal > obligations that may have a negative effect (more pressure) on people > that are not willing to do tha

Re: [tor-relays] Search warrant and house search because of an exit in DE

2016-05-04 Thread dan
Hi spriver and other tor exit operators, also be aware that your actions might create precedence for other relay operators. I.e. if everyone would decrypt their disks when asked without legal obligations that may have a negative effect (more pressure) on people that are not willing to do that.

Re: [tor-relays] Search warrant and house search because of an exit in DE

2016-05-02 Thread ng0
Alexander Dietrich writes: > On 2016-05-01 11:35, Toralf Förster wrote: >> On 05/01/2016 01:20 AM, Moritz Bartl wrote: >>> Maybe it is simply too crazy for many jurisdictions to believe, >>> but police in Germany in most cases actually treats you well and is >>> not your enemy. I still have to e

Re: [tor-relays] Search warrant and house search because of an exit in DE

2016-05-01 Thread Alexander Dietrich
On 2016-05-01 11:35, Toralf Förster wrote: On 05/01/2016 01:20 AM, Moritz Bartl wrote: Maybe it is simply too crazy for many jurisdictions to believe, but police in Germany in most cases actually treats you well and is not your enemy. There's no point in turning every occasion into a combat just

Re: [tor-relays] Search warrant and house search because of an exit in DE

2016-05-01 Thread Toralf Förster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 05/01/2016 01:20 AM, Moritz Bartl wrote: > Maybe it is simply too crazy for many jurisdictions to believe, > but police in Germany in most cases actually treats you well and is > not your enemy. There's no point in turning every occasion into a >

Re: [tor-relays] Search warrant and house search because of an exit in DE

2016-04-30 Thread Mirimir
On 04/30/2016 05:20 PM, Moritz Bartl wrote: > On 04/30/2016 08:15 PM, dan wrote: >> Sorry to hear that. We're already in contact, but just for the record: I >> think there's the fast option here, you unlock it and let them search >> it, or, >> Kind of surprised that you are suggesting t

Re: [tor-relays] Search warrant and house search because of an exit in DE

2016-04-30 Thread Virgil Griffith
Moritz; always the voice of reason. MATVOR. -V On Sunday, 1 May 2016, Moritz Bartl wrote: > On 04/30/2016 08:15 PM, dan wrote: > > Sorry to hear that. We're already in contact, but just for the > record: I > > think there's the fast option here, you unlock it and let them search > >

Re: [tor-relays] Search warrant and house search because of an exit in DE

2016-04-30 Thread Markus Koch
FUCK! Encrypt all the things ... the issue is, you dont get always a custom Whois ... 2016-05-01 1:23 GMT+02:00 Moritz Bartl : > On 04/30/2016 08:10 PM, dan wrote: >> it would be interesting to know whether you run that relay from your >> home broadband connection or some hosting server > > The

Re: [tor-relays] Search warrant and house search because of an exit in DE

2016-04-30 Thread Moritz Bartl
On 04/30/2016 08:10 PM, dan wrote: > it would be interesting to know whether you run that relay from your > home broadband connection or some hosting server The exit was/is located in a data center in this case. But, it did not have customized WHOIS records, which is something that we recommend an

Re: [tor-relays] Search warrant and house search because of an exit in DE

2016-04-30 Thread Moritz Bartl
On 04/30/2016 08:15 PM, dan wrote: > Sorry to hear that. We're already in contact, but just for the record: I > think there's the fast option here, you unlock it and let them search > it, or, > Kind of surprised that you are suggesting to give a way the encryption > passphrase. No, I d

Re: [tor-relays] Search warrant and house search because of an exit in DE

2016-04-30 Thread Dr Gerard Bulger
...@lists.torproject.org] On Behalf Of grarpamp Sent: 30 April 2016 18:47 To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Search warrant and house search because of an exit in DE On 4/30/16, Dr Gerard Bulger wrote: > Once I set my outgoing connection via a UK and very fast and > supposedly &quo

Re: [tor-relays] Search warrant and house search because of an exit in DE

2016-04-30 Thread dan
> > On April 29, 2016 at 10:00 PM Moritz Bartl wrote: > > Hi spriver, > > Sorry to hear that. We're already in contact, but just for the record: I > think there's the fast option here, you unlock it and let them search > it, or, > Kind of surprised that you are suggesting

Re: [tor-relays] Search warrant and house search because of an exit in DE

2016-04-30 Thread dan
Hi, it would be interesting to know whether you run that relay from your home broadband connection or some hosting server ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays

Re: [tor-relays] Search warrant and house search because of an exit in DE

2016-04-30 Thread grarpamp
On 4/30/16, Dr Gerard Bulger wrote: > Once I set my outgoing connection via a UK and very fast and supposedly > "anonymous" proxy server service, I have not heard a squeak from anyone. > These proxy services are very cheap, no limits, and offer another level of > difficulty for enquiring authoriti

Re: [tor-relays] Search warrant and house search because of an exit in DE

2016-04-30 Thread Dr Gerard Bulger
- From: tor-relays [mailto:tor-relays-boun...@lists.torproject.org] On Behalf Of Tim Wilson-Brown - teor Sent: 30 April 2016 12:17 To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [tor-relays] Search warrant and house search because of an exit in DE > On 30 Apr 2016, at 19:34, Dr Gerard Bul

Re: [tor-relays] Search warrant and house search because of an exit in DE

2016-04-30 Thread Tim Wilson-Brown - teor
> On 30 Apr 2016, at 19:34, Dr Gerard Bulger wrote: > > > I would have the courage to run a Tor Exit from home; home internet in > London too poor to do that anyway, and do not have two IPs here. The likes > of BBC ban you if your IP is listed as an exit node. > > My VPS hosting company sent

Re: [tor-relays] Search warrant and house search because of an exit in DE

2016-04-30 Thread Dr Gerard Bulger
I would have the courage to run a Tor Exit from home; home internet in London too poor to do that anyway, and do not have two IPs here. The likes of BBC ban you if your IP is listed as an exit node. My VPS hosting company sent me various abuse notices once every two months, which I thought as qu

Re: [tor-relays] Search warrant and house search because of an exit in DE

2016-04-29 Thread Moritz Bartl
Hi spriver, Sorry to hear that. We're already in contact, but just for the record: I think there's the fast option here, you unlock it and let them search it, or, you don't and it will take longer to get it back. A letter by a lawyer can help speed it up a little, we can arrange that. Let's discus

[tor-relays] Search warrant and house search because of an exit in DE

2016-04-29 Thread spriver
Hi, earlier today (this morning) German police officials (I live in Germany) came to my flat and searched my rooms. The official accuse was because of me being suspected to fraud (about 400€ of eBooks were purchased and not payed via my exit relay on 2015-11-02 (data is available that my relay was