Re: [tor-relays] Running 5000 relays...

2016-03-21 Thread Tim Wilson-Brown - teor
> On 22 Mar 2016, at 08:14, Toralf Förster wrote: > > Signed PGP part > Tim Wilson-Brown - teor: > > * if the AccountingRule is not "in". > Ah, > AccountingRule in > was meant. I did not set that config option in the past due to the impact of > network-in-attacks as is seen in [1]. > > B

Re: [tor-relays] Running 5000 relays...

2016-03-21 Thread Toralf Förster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Tim Wilson-Brown - teor: > * if the AccountingRule is not "in". Ah, AccountingRule in was meant. I did not set that config option in the past due to the impact of network-in-attacks as is seen in [1]. Because I do have to pay just for outg

Re: [tor-relays] Running 5000 relays...

2016-03-21 Thread Toralf Förster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Tim Wilson-Brown - teor: > * if the AccountingRule is not "in". Thx for the explanation - the above I do not understood - may I ask what "in" means in detail ? - -- Toralf PGP: C4EACDDE 0076E94E, OTR: 420E74C8 30246EE7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE

Re: [tor-relays] Running 5000 relays...

2016-03-21 Thread Tim Wilson-Brown - teor
> On 22 Mar 2016, at 04:22, Toralf Förster wrote: > > Signed PGP part > Tim Wilson-Brown - teor: > > In 0.2.8, every relay is potentially a hidden service directory and > > a directory mirror. > But with this configuration : > > # 20 TB/month: echo "20 * 1024^4 / 31 / 24 / 60 / 60 / 1024^2" | b

Re: [tor-relays] Running 5000 relays...

2016-03-21 Thread Toralf Förster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Tim Wilson-Brown - teor: > In 0.2.8, every relay is potentially a hidden service directory and > a directory mirror. But with this configuration : # 20 TB/month: echo "20 * 1024^4 / 31 / 24 / 60 / 60 / 1024^2" | bc # == 8017 # #BandwidthRate 8 MB

Re: [tor-relays] Running 5000 relays...

2016-03-21 Thread Tim Wilson-Brown - teor
> On 21 Mar 2016, at 21:32, tor-server-crea...@use.startmail.com wrote: > > By setting "DirPort: 0" the relays wont get flaged as Dir. So: Should be set > to 0 in this case, no? In 0.2.8, every relay is potentially a hidden service directory and a directory mirror. Clients tunnel directory con

Re: [tor-relays] Running 5000 relays...

2016-03-21 Thread tor-server-creator
By setting "DirPort: 0" the relays wont get flaged as Dir. So: Should be set to 0 in this case, no?   Am Sonntag, 20. März 2016 02:54 schrieb Tim Wilson-Brown - teor :     On 9 Mar 2016, at 09:29, nusenu wrote:   - maybe run without DirPort so you do not become HSDir for to many HSes Hmm

Re: [tor-relays] Running 5000 relays...

2016-03-19 Thread Tim Wilson-Brown - teor
> On 9 Mar 2016, at 09:29, nusenu wrote: > > - maybe run without DirPort so you do not become HSDir for to many HSes Hmm, I don't think that this will work as you expect. As of 0.2.7, every relay advertises that it will be a hidden service directory (regardless of whether it has a DirPort or n

Re: [tor-relays] Running 5000 relays...

2016-03-19 Thread Philipp Winter
On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 11:51:23AM +, nusenu wrote: > > This sounds like a great effort. I wanted to point out 2 things: > > 1) I think that GCE IP addresses are blacklisted (due to an earlier sybil > > attack, > > https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-relays/2015-August/007656.html). > >

Re: [tor-relays] Running 5000 relays...

2016-03-18 Thread Greg
Brian, That's all quite interesting. Thanks for sharing. I hope this work goes well. It would help move Tor forward toward the cloud-based software model that's becoming more and more popular. Greg On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 12:29 PM, Brian 'redbeard' Harrington wrote: > Greg, > > Thank *you* for th

Re: [tor-relays] Running 5000 relays...

2016-03-14 Thread Brian 'redbeard' Harrington
Greg, Thank *you* for the reminder! So as far as the GCE note, that's good to know. I'll put a note in some of the documentation about this. In terms of it's relation to cloud.torproject.org... In a way this pre-dates that, in a way it's new artwork. Many moons ago (~circa 2007) I was discu

Re: [tor-relays] Running 5000 relays...

2016-03-13 Thread Greg
On Mar 11, 2016 3:51 AM, "nusenu" wrote: > > > This sounds like a great effort. I wanted to point out 2 things: > > 1) I think that GCE IP addresses are blacklisted (due to an earlier sybil > > attack, > > https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-relays/2015-August/007656.html). > > I don't thin

Re: [tor-relays] Running 5000 relays...

2016-03-11 Thread nusenu
> This sounds like a great effort. I wanted to point out 2 things: > 1) I think that GCE IP addresses are blacklisted (due to an earlier sybil > attack, > https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-relays/2015-August/007656.html). I don't think it is blacklisted currently (but maybe someone at the

Re: [tor-relays] Running 5000 relays...

2016-03-10 Thread Greg
Brian, This sounds like a great effort. I wanted to point out 2 things: 1) I think that GCE IP addresses are blacklisted (due to an earlier sybil attack, https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-relays/2015-August/007656.html). 2) How do you see your work relating to and differing from the discon

Re: [tor-relays] Running 5000 relays...

2016-03-09 Thread nusenu
> Since there isn't really a "good" way to do the families I'll settle for > consistent ContactInfo. Worst-case outcome for a "how do I do MyFamily properly" discussion ;) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ tor-relays mailing l

Re: [tor-relays] Running 5000 relays...

2016-03-08 Thread Brian 'redbeard' Harrington
Perfect. I'll poke at this a bit more and then notify folks on tor-relays and release the hounds. Since there isn't really a "good" way to do the families I'll settle for consistent ContactInfo. Likely I'll have some of the configuration done so that users may set an environment variable to e

Re: [tor-relays] Running 5000 relays...

2016-03-08 Thread nusenu
A few more thoughts - consider asking dir auths at what cw fraction they are going to start de-listing relays - to avoid wasting efforts (if you are lucky and get an answer from most of them share them with us :) - maybe run without DirPort so you do not become HSDir for to many HSes - your rela

Re: [tor-relays] Running 5000 relays...

2016-03-06 Thread Brian 'redbeard' Harrington
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 03/06/2016 05:21 AM, nusenu wrote: > Moritz wrote: >> Maybe this is better taken to tor-relays. > Ok. > > url to the tor-dev thread: > https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-dev/2016-March/010473.html > > Brian didn't say anything about pla

[tor-relays] Running 5000 relays...

2016-03-06 Thread nusenu
Moritz wrote: > Maybe this is better taken to tor-relays. Ok. url to the tor-dev thread: https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-dev/2016-March/010473.html Brian didn't say anything about planed deployment locations, but if _all_ relays are within a single /16 network you might skip MyFamily