Re: [tor-relays] Improving Relay IPv6 - RIPE Grant

2020-03-18 Thread teor
Hi, Sorry I missed these emails. I was on leave around Christmas, and then I was focused on the Relay IPv6 grant when I got back. > On 22 Dec 2019, at 06:28, ILikeTor wrote: > > I was wondering how you will implement IPv6-only relays. IPv6-only relays are out of scope for this sponsor. We can

Re: [tor-relays] Improving Relay IPv6 - RIPE Grant

2019-12-22 Thread NOC
On 21.12.2019 21:28, ILikeTor wrote: [..] only two relays per /64, for example? Do you have any plans for that already?[..] That is already a bad practice for IPv4 and is impossible to do for IPv6. There are server providers which give you a single IPv6 address (/128) and there are some which g

Re: [tor-relays] Improving Relay IPv6 - RIPE Grant

2019-12-21 Thread ILikeTor
Hi, I was wondering how you will implement IPv6-only relays. What limits will you set on how many relays can be per /(something)? Will you allow only two relays per /64, for example? Do you have any plans for that already? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature __

Re: [tor-relays] Improving Relay IPv6 - RIPE Grant

2019-12-17 Thread teor
Hi, > On 18 Dec 2019, at 02:17, NOC wrote: > > On 16.12.2019 20:37, Ralph Seichter wrote: >> * NOC: >> >>> I see a great benefit here, you could default to IPv6 for everything >>> and enable IPv4 only as fallback [...] >> Preferring IPv6 over IPv4 is not even remotely the same as your original

Re: [tor-relays] Improving Relay IPv6 - RIPE Grant

2019-12-17 Thread NOC
On 16.12.2019 20:37, Ralph Seichter wrote: * NOC: I see a great benefit here, you could default to IPv6 for everything and enable IPv4 only as fallback [...] Preferring IPv6 over IPv4 is not even remotely the same as your original call to "lets drop all IPv4 only relays from consensus 2020 fin

Re: [tor-relays] Improving Relay IPv6 - RIPE Grant

2019-12-16 Thread Ralph Seichter
* NOC: > I see a great benefit here, you could default to IPv6 for everything > and enable IPv4 only as fallback [...] Preferring IPv6 over IPv4 is not even remotely the same as your original call to "lets drop all IPv4 only relays from consensus 2020 finally", as you wrote in message <08fee42f-f

Re: [tor-relays] Improving Relay IPv6 - RIPE Grant

2019-12-16 Thread NOC
I see a great benefit here, you could default to IPv6 for everything and enable IPv4 only as fallback that would allow to run Relays behind carrier grade NAT. I can get here 10 GBit/s symmetric but because the ISP did not get it's IP space 30 years ago (like some other ISPs which see no need fo

Re: [tor-relays] Improving Relay IPv6 - RIPE Grant

2019-12-16 Thread Paul Geurts
hi Johathan, this question was already addressed last week by Teor. email on this mailing list doesn't always seem to arrive in a logical sequence possible due to spam filters and so on. gr. Paul teor t...@riseup.net via lists.torproject.

Re: [tor-relays] Improving Relay IPv6 - RIPE Grant

2019-12-16 Thread Jonathan Sélea
I am unable to see why this is a good idea actually. As someone said already, I too would be unable to provide bridges and relays thanks to my ISP (Telia) does not provide an IPv6. But removing IPv4 only nodes from the network - you are basically removing a large chunk of relays from the network wi

Re: [tor-relays] Improving Relay IPv6 - RIPE Grant

2019-12-13 Thread grarpamp
> than lets drop all IPv4 only relays from consensus 2020 finally. Someone may have mentioned already... Given many places relays do and could run are still IPv4 only, that would probably impact diversity quite a bit regarding AS, regions, jurisdiction, ISPs, datacenter vs network edge type of op

Re: [tor-relays] Improving Relay IPv6 - RIPE Grant

2019-12-12 Thread grarpamp
On 12/12/19, Logforme wrote: > My ISP ... does not provide ... and has no roadmap > I can't switch ISP since they provide the fiber connection for the > apartment building. Seems you should be building out your own P2P fiber mesh guerrilla network house-to-house owner-to-owner, each node independ

Re: [tor-relays] Improving Relay IPv6 - RIPE Grant

2019-12-12 Thread Ralph Seichter
* NOC: > than lets drop all IPv4 only relays from consensus 2020 finally. Let's not. Availabiliy of IPv6 varies with country/territory/ISP. While I personally know people who simply don't want to use IPv6 (and I keep prodding them for it), there are others who simply don't have the option. -Ralp

Re: [tor-relays] Improving Relay IPv6 - RIPE Grant

2019-12-12 Thread teor
Hi, > On 13 Dec 2019, at 08:45, Logforme wrote: > >> On 2019-12-12 17:49:22, "NOC" wrote: >> than lets drop all IPv4 only relays from consensus 2020 finally. >> > I would be sad to no longer be able to contribute to the Tor network. > My ISP, Telenor Sweden, does not provide IPv6 and have no (

Re: [tor-relays] Improving Relay IPv6 - RIPE Grant

2019-12-12 Thread Logforme
On 2019-12-12 17:49:22, "NOC" wrote: than lets drop all IPv4 only relays from consensus 2020 finally. I would be sad to no longer be able to contribute to the Tor network. My ISP, Telenor Sweden, does not provide IPv6 and have no (public) roadmap for supporting IPv6. I can't switch ISP since

Re: [tor-relays] Improving Relay IPv6 - RIPE Grant

2019-12-12 Thread NOC
Great, than lets drop all IPv4 only relays from consensus 2020 finally. P.S. whitelist me so it doesn't take days till my emails appear on the mailing list. Thank you On 11.12.2019 03:20, teor wrote: Dear relay operators, I just wanted to let you know that RIPE has announced funding for Th

Re: [tor-relays] Improving Relay IPv6 - RIPE Grant

2019-12-11 Thread Ralph Seichter
* t...@riseup.net: > I just wanted to let you know that RIPE has announced funding for The > Tor Project to improve IPv6 support on relays. That's great news, congratulations. My Tor nodes already use IPv6, so if you need help with testing updated Tor versions, please let me know. -Ralph __

[tor-relays] Improving Relay IPv6 - RIPE Grant

2019-12-10 Thread teor
Dear relay operators, I just wanted to let you know that RIPE has announced funding for The Tor Project to improve IPv6 support on relays. (RIPE is the European internet infrastructure organisation.) https://www.ripe.net/support/cpf/funding-recipients-2019 We'll have more details early in 2020,