Re: [tor-relays] MyFamily

2023-05-15 Thread Matt Palmer
On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 10:18:29AM -0400, denny.obre...@a-n-o-n-y-m-e.net wrote: > trinity pointard wrote .. > > For an easy example, let's imagine that we let any relay put itself > > into any family. Now suppose the attacker starts three relays A1, A2, > > and A3. Then, since nothing stops the

Re: [tor-relays] MyFamily

2023-05-15 Thread denny . obreham
trinity pointard wrote .. > . It's not as easy as having a unique ID, you need to make sure a > relay can't spoof being part of a family, that's why it requires a two > way relationship for now, and will probably use some form of signature > in the future. Why not take advantage of the proof entr

Re: [tor-relays] MyFamily

2023-05-15 Thread Nick Mathewson
On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 5:21 AM Matt Palmer wrote: > > On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 12:55:17PM -0400, denny.obre...@a-n-o-n-y-m-e.net > wrote: > > This has probably been addressed before but why isn't the MyFamily value > > just a single, unique ID? > > > > If I have the relays with the fingerprints "

Re: [tor-relays] MyFamily

2023-05-15 Thread trinity pointard
> This has probably been addressed before but why isn't the MyFamily value just > a single, unique ID? There is a proposal to have some way of doing that in the future, but that proposal isn't implemented https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/core/torspec/-/blob/main/proposals/321-happy-families.md .

Re: [tor-relays] [Important] A call for more long running bridges, especially with OBFS IAT-Mode set to 1 or 2.

2023-05-15 Thread Fran via tor-relays
Hey, the paper is from August 2018 (if I looked at the correct one), not so recent :) And e. g. Philipp Winter questions the usefulness of iat_mode: > substantial performance penalty for a dubious and poorly understood privacy gain https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-relays/2021-Feb

Re: [tor-relays] MyFamily

2023-05-15 Thread Matt Palmer
On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 12:55:17PM -0400, denny.obre...@a-n-o-n-y-m-e.net wrote: > This has probably been addressed before but why isn't the MyFamily value > just a single, unique ID? > > If I have the relays with the fingerprints "John", "Jane", and "Alice" and > I want to add "Bob", wouldn't it