Should we stop Tor until Weather's better?{ I notice Jacob is always in a new Tor t-shirt but I will wait for evidence to go further.}Robert
-Original Message-From: supersluet...@gmail.comSent: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 20:51:30 -0500To: tor-relays@lists.torproject.orgSubject: Re: [tor-relays]
I think you're missing the point of running a Tor relay.
"The Tor network relies on /volunteers/ to *donate* bandwidth."
Volunteer: A person who /freely/ offers to undertake a task, or,
/freely/ offer to do something.
Donate: *give* (money or goods) for a good cause.
The Tor Project doesn't
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> When did t-shirts become more important than the work we are doing to
> keep people safe and anonymous on the internet?
Actually they are.
I haven't bought any shirts for four years because I can get one tshirt for 60
days of a virtual server costing $Aud15-40/year which makes the
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Abuse will always be there, and isn't bound by Tor exits only.
There is lots of this "malicious" traffic on the internet.
Mainly new/small ISPs will react heavily to abuse complaints because they don't
wanna end up on certain lists (IP ranges, bad n
When did t-shirts become more important than the work we are doing to
keep people safe and anonymous on the internet?
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Some thoughts about "bad press," when was the last time you saw an article
about how awesome Siri is? Or read a review on how good a restaurant is? Or
anything good about anything on the Internet?
People like to complain, and use the Internet to do it. Just look at
Twitter. "Bad press" happens bec
" It's not only about the t-shirt itself (although having one would be
nice, it looks just awesome), it's more about the communication to the
community itself. And isn't it the community that is running Tor? That's
exactly what you said here. "
Well said.
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On 2016-06-13 at 01:08, Moritz Bartl wrote:
> On 06/13/2016 12:17 AM, Green Dream wrote:
>> As I already said 4 days ago in this thread, all indications are the
>> t-shirt program is no longer active.
>
> Wrong. It's just being handled by one volunteer at the moment. If you
> want shirts, go into
On 06/13/2016 12:17 AM, Green Dream wrote:
> As I already said 4 days ago in this thread, all indications are the
> t-shirt program is no longer active.
Wrong. It's just being handled by one volunteer at the moment. If you
want shirts, go into a shop and buy a shirt. If you want to contribute
to T
On 06/13/2016 12:53 AM, Dr Gerard Bulger wrote:
> TORRC. If I can do that why is it reprehensible in TOR lore to attempt
> something more subtle and pre-emptive?
Because you're introducing defects into the network. A client has no way
of knowing what happens, and there is no way of identifying "
There is a moral problem to know that the service you are running as an exit,
for the sake of the mythical T-shirt, internet freedom and lack of censorship,
is being abused to such an extent. I increased my exit speed from 2.5mbs to
5mbs and rose up the exit rankings such that abuse emails wen
As I already said 4 days ago in this thread, all indications are the
t-shirt program is no longer active.
It turns out one of the other things that takes time and effort is keeping
the website up to date!
If someone here really cares about the false promise of t-shirts, that
person could submit a
http://imgur.com/4knvU6F
2016-06-12 23:29 GMT+02:00 Green Dream :
> Do you guys really run relays just for the t-shirt? Aren't there more
> important reasons to run a relay, like serving the community, being an
> advocate for privacy, and acting against surveillance and censorship?
>
> Is this t-s
On 2016-06-12 at 23:29, Green Dream wrote:
> Do you guys really run relays just for the t-shirt? Aren't there more
> important reasons to run a relay, like serving the community, being an
> advocate for privacy, and acting against surveillance and censorship?
>
> Is this t-shirt issue *really* a p
+1
Besides, if the T-shirt is that big of a deal, you can just make your own.
On Jun 12, 2016 4:29 PM, "Green Dream" wrote:
> Do you guys really run relays just for the t-shirt? Aren't there more
> important reasons to run a relay, like serving the community, being an
> advocate for privacy, and
Do you guys really run relays just for the t-shirt? Aren't there more
important reasons to run a relay, like serving the community, being an
advocate for privacy, and acting against surveillance and censorship?
Is this t-shirt issue *really* a problem that needs to be solved? The Tor
Project has m
On 06/12/2016 09:39 PM, Dr Gerard Bulger wrote:
> Not sure eavesdrop is the right word, since ISPs throttle all sorts of
> traffic by inspecting it such as torrent, let alone TOR.
Even that is highly controversial, and several countries have tried to
develop "net neutrality" laws to stop it.
And
On 2016-06-12 at 13:21, Jannis Wiese wrote:
> I’m waiting since 7 months now. I know the guys who are handling the T-shirt
> requests are busy and I am (was) prepared to wait, but it’s a bit frustrating
> (if I think about it), to be honest.
>
>> On 08.06.2016, at 19:34, Markus Koch wrote:
>>
>
In the past when I've tried thinking about this it has been too fraught
with moral hazard for me. Morally, Tor is about keeping private
communications private, in the hope that more good than bad will come of
it.
On 12 Jun 2016 8:40 p.m., "Dr Gerard Bulger" wrote:
> Not sure eavesdrop is the righ
Not sure eavesdrop is the right word, since ISPs throttle all sorts of traffic
by inspecting it such as torrent, let alone TOR. I suppose we could argue
that in signing up for an internet connection, deep in the ISP’s small print,
we consent to that behaviour. Is it really true that consent h
On 12 Jun 2016 5:49 p.m., "Jonathan Baker-Bates"
wrote:
> But along the way I asked some others about the legal implications of
doing what the ISP had asked. The rough consensus was that in the UK at
least, I would only be able to evesdrop on traffic once consent had been
given by those being moni
A while ago I had a lengthy dicussion with my ISP about this. They wanted
me to run Snort on my exit to shut off variuos types of traffic coming from
it. In the end I agreed only to allow encrypted protocols to exit, which
placated them (and a subsequent bandwith limitation booted me out of the
exi
It is heresy to suggest that Exit relays do anything of a sort, that is
attempt to reject obvious attackers on an IP? Tor is neutral. Once TOR
exits attempts any filtering where would it stop? It is a slippery slope.
I think not, as to extend to other areas would far too complex and have
diminis
I’m waiting since 7 months now. I know the guys who are handling the T-shirt
requests are busy and I am (was) prepared to wait, but it’s a bit frustrating
(if I think about it), to be honest.
> On 08.06.2016, at 19:34, Markus Koch wrote:
>
> I am waiting since January?
>
> Hope has died a lon
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