Re: sun.tools.javac.Main will be removed from JDK1.4

2001-07-20 Thread Pier P. Fumagalli
Christopher Cain at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Generic interface, of course :) > > Nice ... What's the point of doing otherwise? >> But I didn't say I'm going to do it... :) > > D'oh! Maybe I'll have to send my men into your home again, and maybe > this time they steal your primary mod

Re: sun.tools.javac.Main will be removed from JDK1.4

2001-07-20 Thread Christopher Cain
"Pier P. Fumagalli" wrote: > > Christopher Cain at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > "Pier P. Fumagalli" wrote: > >> Craig R. McClanahan at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>> > >>> I haven't looked at Jikes, so can't comment on the suitability of any APIs > >>> it exposes. Would someone like to look at

Re: sun.tools.javac.Main will be removed from JDK1.4

2001-07-20 Thread Pier P. Fumagalli
Christopher Cain at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > "Pier P. Fumagalli" wrote: >> Craig R. McClanahan at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> >>> I haven't looked at Jikes, so can't comment on the suitability of any APIs >>> it exposes. Would someone like to look at this and report back? >> >> Last time I l

Re: sun.tools.javac.Main will be removed from JDK1.4

2001-07-20 Thread Christopher Cain
"Pier P. Fumagalli" wrote: > > Craig R. McClanahan at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > I haven't looked at Jikes, so can't comment on the suitability of any APIs > > it exposes. Would someone like to look at this and report back? > > Last time I looked at the sources (when I was at IBM, 1+1/2

Re: sun.tools.javac.Main will be removed from JDK1.4

2001-07-20 Thread Pier P. Fumagalli
Craig R. McClanahan at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I haven't looked at Jikes, so can't comment on the suitability of any APIs > it exposes. Would someone like to look at this and report back? Last time I looked at the sources (when I was at IBM, 1+1/2 years ago), Jikes was not relying on threa

Re: sun.tools.javac.Main will be removed from JDK1.4

2001-07-20 Thread Pier P. Fumagalli
Jon Stevens at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > The real solution is to get Sun to get off their high horse and OSS the > javac compiler and/or not do stupid things like remove something that tons > of people depend on and not give an alternative way to do things. I have to disagree, this time.. The

Re: sun.tools.javac.Main will be removed from JDK1.4

2001-07-20 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Fri, 20 Jul 2001, Christopher Cain wrote: > > "JULIEN,TIMOTHY (HP-NewJersey,ex2)" wrote: > > > > Over in HP middleware, we're not to happy with this development either > > our JSP implementation will suffer for the same reasons Jasper will > > > > We can work with an external comp

Re: sun.tools.javac.Main will be removed from JDK1.4

2001-07-20 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Fri, 20 Jul 2001, Paul Speed wrote: > > > "Craig R. McClanahan" wrote: > > > > There are some pretty intense discussions going on about this, and the > > story hasn't yet been finished ... > > > > On the other hand, the "new" compiler entry point has an absolutely > > horrible feature (fro

Re: sun.tools.javac.Main will be removed from JDK1.4

2001-07-20 Thread Christopher Cain
Jon Stevens wrote: > > Jikes works fine. > > The issue is that Jikes is a C++ binary and isn't ported to every platform. Oh yeah ... =) > It also makes installation/distribution issues a bit more tricky than simply > calling a Java class file... Yep. I figured the issue was that it would requ

Re: sun.tools.javac.Main will be removed from JDK1.4

2001-07-20 Thread Christopher Cain
Jon Stevens wrote: > > Time to drop Javac and just use Jikes... LOL! I hadn't even read this one when I (just now) asked my "why not just go with Jikes" question. I've started noticing that Jon and I think alot alike, from HTML-formatted e-mail to documention approaches to JSP to compiler techn

Re: sun.tools.javac.Main will be removed from JDK1.4

2001-07-20 Thread Jon Stevens
on 7/20/01 3:45 PM, "Christopher Cain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just a question to satisfy my own curiosity (and possibly point out my > compiler ignorance WRT using sun.tool.javac.Main and/or JSP compilation > [since I don't do JSP]). You mention speed being the primary factor in > using the

Re: sun.tools.javac.Main will be removed from JDK1.4

2001-07-20 Thread Christopher Cain
"JULIEN,TIMOTHY (HP-NewJersey,ex2)" wrote: > > Over in HP middleware, we're not to happy with this development either > our JSP implementation will suffer for the same reasons Jasper will > > We can work with an external compiler, but for speed, we much prefer > sun.tool.javac.Main. Ju

Re: sun.tools.javac.Main will be removed from JDK1.4

2001-07-20 Thread Jon Stevens
on 7/20/01 12:11 PM, "JULIEN,TIMOTHY (HP-NewJersey,ex2)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Over in HP middleware, we're not to happy with this development either > our JSP implementation will suffer for the same reasons Jasper will > > We can work with an external compiler, but for speed, we

Re: sun.tools.javac.Main will be removed from JDK1.4

2001-07-20 Thread Paul Speed
"Craig R. McClanahan" wrote: > > There are some pretty intense discussions going on about this, and the > story hasn't yet been finished ... > > On the other hand, the "new" compiler entry point has an absolutely > horrible feature (from the point of view of Jasper) -- you have to modify > Sys

Re: sun.tools.javac.Main will be removed from JDK1.4

2001-07-20 Thread Pier P. Fumagalli
JULIEN,TIMOTHY (HP-NewJersey,ex2) at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Over in HP middleware, we're not to happy with this development either > our JSP implementation will suffer for the same reasons Jasper will > > We can work with an external compiler, but for speed, we much prefer > sun.tool

RE: sun.tools.javac.Main will be removed from JDK1.4

2001-07-20 Thread JULIEN,TIMOTHY (HP-NewJersey,ex2)
Message- > From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 1:54 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: sun.tools.javac.Main will be removed from JDK1.4 > > > There are some pretty intense discussions going on about