Re: Ant rant

2000-11-13 Thread Nick Bauman
On Mon, 13 Nov 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > If it works out-of-box with jikes 1.12, then awesome! (I've had problems > > with 1.12 because of the multibyte encoding changes between 1.11 and 1.12) > > I use it with jikes most of the time. If you are on unix, you can > use an .antrc and >

Re: Ant rant

2000-11-13 Thread Glenn Vanderburg
Bob Jamison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I can think of one major thing that restricts the use of Make on Java. > The wizards at Sun, when they implemented inner classes, decided > to use $ as the class name separator, like > MyClass$SomeThread.class > (why, O why, not % or @ or something else!

Re: Ant rant

2000-11-13 Thread Bob Jamison
Nick Bauman wrote: > Question: WHAT THE HECK IS ANT? > > Now I know what ant is, I'm just hyperbolizing. But... > > It's just that I got the entire Tomcat 3.1 tree to compile with a single > Makefile in around 10 minutes. I can't figure out what Ant is helping this > project with. Maybe I'm jus

Re: Ant rant

2000-11-13 Thread cmanolache
> If it works out-of-box with jikes 1.12, then awesome! (I've had problems > with 1.12 because of the multibyte encoding changes between 1.11 and 1.12) I use it with jikes most of the time. If you are on unix, you can use an .antrc and ANT_OPTS="-Dbuild.compiler=jikes" BTW, if you are an expe

Re: Ant rant

2000-11-12 Thread Nick Bauman
If it works out-of-box with jikes 1.12, then awesome! (I've had problems with 1.12 because of the multibyte encoding changes between 1.11 and 1.12) On Mon, 13 Nov 2000, Sam Ruby/Raleigh/IBM wrote: > Nick Bauman wrote: > > > > Has anyone gotten Jikes to work with ant? > > ant -Dbuild.compiler=ji

Re: Ant rant

2000-11-12 Thread person
ya see below The memory management on PowerPC can be used to frighten small children. -- Linus Torvalds On Sun, 12 Nov 2000, Nick Bauman wrote: > On Sun, 12 Nov 2000, Craig R. McClanahan wrote: {snip} > > I'll take "doesn't pay the rent to know that" as probably the bottom line >

Re: Ant rant

2000-11-12 Thread Sam Ruby/Raleigh/IBM
Nick Bauman wrote: > > Has anyone gotten Jikes to work with ant? ant -Dbuild.compiler=jikes target - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Ant rant

2000-11-12 Thread Nick Bauman
On Sun, 12 Nov 2000, Craig R. McClanahan wrote: > One interesting note about your rant is that the only people who care > about Ant in the first place are those trying to build Tomcat from > source > (or want to use it for their own development). If you just need a > binary build of Tomcat (whic

Re: Ant rant

2000-11-12 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
Nick Bauman wrote: > > I have all kinds of problems using new versions of Tomcat (and someone > said that they are suprised at how few people try the milestone builds / > betas) and many of them come from problems with Ant. So I think Ant is > actually _preventing_ people from getting the most ou

RE: Ant rant

2000-11-12 Thread James Cook
: Ant rant "These kids today and their 'ant's! What's the world coming to?" But I'll agree, and _is_ more intuitive and elegant than Make. But I put them at about equal in difficulty in learning curve. BTW, for those who are interested, I've asked our CTO if I

RE: Ant rant

2000-11-12 Thread Nick Bauman
mat for > > my personal projects and when I got a hold of Ant, I was very relieved! > > > > - r > > > > p.s. i don't mean to trivialize the Makefile stuff. It's funky! > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Nick Bauman [mail

RE: Ant rant

2000-11-12 Thread person
personal projects and when I got a hold of Ant, I was very relieved! > > - r > > p.s. i don't mean to trivialize the Makefile stuff. It's funky! > > > -Original Message- > > From: Nick Bauman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: November 12, 20

RE: Ant rant

2000-11-12 Thread Rob S.
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: November 12, 2000 5:11 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Ant rant > > > On Sun, 12 Nov 2000, Michael Stanley wrote: > > > > And don't say "ant is cross platform, make is not" because > that just

Re: Ant rant

2000-11-12 Thread Nick Bauman
On Sun, 12 Nov 2000, Michael Stanley wrote: > > And don't say "ant is cross platform, make is not" because that just isn't > > true. Was someone just bored with the wheel and wanted to reinvent it? > > Ant is more than a cross platform make utility. Ant is platform independent, > which means a

RE: Ant rant

2000-11-12 Thread Nick Bauman
make did you use (nmake, gmake, ...)? > > Conor > > > -Original Message- > > From: Nick Bauman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Monday, 13 November 2000 8:05 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Ant rant > > > > > > Question: WH

Re: Ant rant

2000-11-12 Thread Michael Stanley
> And don't say "ant is cross platform, make is not" because that just isn't > true. Was someone just bored with the wheel and wanted to reinvent it? Ant is more than a cross platform make utility. Ant is platform independent, which means alot more than cross platform. Ant is a make utility g

Re: Ant rant

2000-11-12 Thread Michael Stanley
> And don't say "ant is cross platform, make is not" because that just isn't > true. Was someone just bored with the wheel and wanted to reinvent it? Ant is more than a cross platform make utility. Ant is platform independent, which means alot more than cross platform. Ant is a make utility ge

RE: Ant rant

2000-11-12 Thread Conor MacNeill
Nick, Can we see the makefile? Did you get the same file to work on many platforms? What make did you use (nmake, gmake, ...)? Conor > -Original Message- > From: Nick Bauman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, 13 November 2000 8:05 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Su

Ant rant

2000-11-12 Thread Nick Bauman
Question: WHAT THE HECK IS ANT? Now I know what ant is, I'm just hyperbolizing. But... It's just that I got the entire Tomcat 3.1 tree to compile with a single Makefile in around 10 minutes. I can't figure out what Ant is helping this project with. Maybe I'm just stupid or something but this Ant