Re: [5.0] Problems with the next release

2004-03-12 Thread Bill Barker
- Original Message - From: "Mladen Turk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Tomcat Developers List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 3:24 AM Subject: RE: [5.0] Problems with the next release > > > &

Re: [5.0] Problems with the next release

2004-03-12 Thread Henri Gomez
Remy Maucherat wrote: Henri Gomez wrote: Please subscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and follow the thread about 'clarification'. It seems there is a discussion on having non ASF binaries : 2) state that the ASF will allow the use of its infrastructure for the distribution of binary objects th

Re: [5.0] Problems with the next release

2004-03-12 Thread Remy Maucherat
Henri Gomez wrote: Please subscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and follow the thread about 'clarification'. It seems there is a discussion on having non ASF binaries : 2) state that the ASF will allow the use of its infrastructure for the distribution of binary objects that are legally distribut

Re: [5.0] Problems with the next release

2004-03-12 Thread Henri Gomez
Please subscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and follow the thread about 'clarification'. It seems there is a discussion on having non ASF binaries : 2) state that the ASF will allow the use of its infrastructure for the distribution of binary objects that are legally distributable standalone ev

RE: [5.0] Problems with the next release

2004-03-12 Thread Mladen Turk
> -Original Message- > From: Henri Gomez > >> Henri, Remy and Costin proposed to move the binaries to > sourceforge, > >> until > >> the things clears up. > >> I'm in favor of that, and will support such a decision if voted. > > Well I didn't agreed on moving TC binaries to sf or othe

Re: [5.0] Problems with the next release

2004-03-12 Thread Remy Maucherat
Henri Gomez wrote: Well I didn't agreed on moving TC binaries to sf or others. I mentioned that being also involved in projet like Jpackage, I know that's producing ready to use packages is not so easy, expecially when you have to explain to users that they have to get MANY external jars from outs

Re: [5.0] Problems with the next release

2004-03-12 Thread Henri Gomez
jean-frederic clere wrote: Mladen Turk wrote: -Original Message- From: jean-frederic clere Mladen Turk wrote: What about linking to static microsoft libraries? That is probably not OK. I know that, but I know too that the law doesn't have a term _probably_ in it's dictionary.

Re: [5.0] Problems with the next release

2004-03-12 Thread jean-frederic clere
Mladen Turk wrote: -Original Message- From: jean-frederic clere Mladen Turk wrote: What about linking to static microsoft libraries? That is probably not OK. I know that, but I know too that the law doesn't have a term _probably_ in it's dictionary. Do we need to sign that or ASF

RE: [5.0] Problems with the next release

2004-03-12 Thread Mladen Turk
> -Original Message- > From: jean-frederic clere > > Mladen Turk wrote: > > > > What about linking to static microsoft libraries? > > That is probably not OK. > I know that, but I know too that the law doesn't have a term _probably_ in it's dictionary. > > > Do we need to sign th

Re: [5.0] Problems with the next release

2004-03-12 Thread jean-frederic clere
Mladen Turk wrote: -Original Message- From: Henri Gomez Here is a reply I got from the community list : This is not a complete prohibition on all third-party jars or libraries, but only on those third-party libraries which are licensed under terms more restrictive than the ASL. As

Re: [5.0] Problems with the next release

2004-03-12 Thread Remy Maucherat
Henri Gomez wrote: This is not a complete prohibition on all third-party jars or libraries, but only on those third-party libraries which are licensed under terms more restrictive than the ASL. In the case of mx4j, the code is licenced under the mx4j 1.0 License [1], which is a derivative of the

RE: [5.0] Problems with the next release

2004-03-12 Thread Mladen Turk
> -Original Message- > From: Henri Gomez > > Here is a reply I got from the community list : > > This is not a complete prohibition on all third-party jars or > libraries, but only on those third-party libraries which are > licensed under terms more restrictive than the ASL. > Ask t

Re: [5.0] Problems with the next release

2004-03-12 Thread Henri Gomez
Remy Maucherat wrote: Bill Barker wrote: I agree with Yoav that we can afford to wait a few days (if only so I don't have to take down the 3.3.2 binary distro :). However, I don't think that, without the ASF changing it's position, we can simply add some lines to the LICENSE file. That may wo

Re: [5.0] Problems with the next release

2004-03-11 Thread Remy Maucherat
Bill Barker wrote: I agree with Yoav that we can afford to wait a few days (if only so I don't have to take down the 3.3.2 binary distro :). However, I don't think that, without the ASF changing it's position, we can simply add some lines to the LICENSE file. That may work in C land, but in Java

Re: [5.0] Problems with the next release

2004-03-11 Thread Costin Manolache
at" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Tomcat Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 5:54 AM Subject: [5.0] Problems with the next release Hi, There are some problems with the next release, with the decision from the ASF board to mandate that all ASF relea

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Re: [5.0] Problems with the next release

2004-03-11 Thread Bill Barker
AIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 5:54 AM Subject: [5.0] Problems with the next release Hi, There are some problems with the next release, with the decision from the ASF board to mandate that all ASF releases are to be made of 100% ASL 2.0 licensed components (as a side note, I

RE: [5.0] Problems with the next release

2004-03-11 Thread Shapira, Yoav
Hi, >The options seem to be: >A) Ship Tomcat 5.0.20 without JMX, and have it display a message with >instructions on how to install JMX if it's not present (basically, >everywhere but on JDK 1.5.0). >B) Ship the binaries from non ASF servers (we could setup a project for >that on Sourceforge). Th

Re: [5.0] Problems with the next release

2004-03-11 Thread Peter Lin
I have to agree. the decision affects a lot of apache projects. I hope ASF board changes the policy slightly and lengths the time for this to take place. It's good to have Apache equivalents to many of the libraries being used in apache projects, but it's going to take time. I may have to cre

Re: [5.0] Problems with the next release

2004-03-11 Thread Henri Gomez
Remy Maucherat wrote: Hi, There are some problems with the next release, with the decision from the ASF board to mandate that all ASF releases are to be made of 100% ASL 2.0 licensed components (as a side note, I'd like to add that this is obviously a terrible decision). This has many conseque

[5.0] Problems with the next release

2004-03-11 Thread Remy Maucherat
Hi, There are some problems with the next release, with the decision from the ASF board to mandate that all ASF releases are to be made of 100% ASL 2.0 licensed components (as a side note, I'd like to add that this is obviously a terrible decision). This has many consequences and some question