[TLS] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-fenter-tls-decryption-00.txt

2018-03-05 Thread Steve Fenter
All, I have just submitted a draft outlining enterprise use cases for out-of-band TLS decryption. Please review. Thanks Steve Fenter -- Forwarded message -- From: Date: Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 1:05 PM Subject: New Version Notification for draft-fenter-tls-decryption-00.txt To

Re: [TLS] Breaking into TLS for enterprise "visibility" (don't do it)

2018-03-26 Thread Steve Fenter
n at many layers of this internal TLS network. Steve Fenter > On Mar 24, 2018, at 7:37 PM, Ion Larranaga Azcue wrote: > > I recognize I may lack context, because I have only seen Steve Fenter's > slides, but apart from it not reaching consensus, the scenario it presents

Re: [TLS] Breaking into TLS for enterprise "visibility" (don't do it)

2018-03-26 Thread Steve Fenter
ge is going to last five years as has been suggested. And whenever RSA is deprecated, it takes a long time to implement a new solution in a large enterprise, so we have to be well out in front of the problem, Steve Fenter > On Mar 24, 2018, at 3:31 PM, Tony Arcieri wrote: > >>

Re: [TLS] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-tls-tls13-24

2018-03-29 Thread Steve Fenter
I'd like to echo Dale's sentiments on the error codes. I've done a fair amount of TLS handshake troubleshooting, and it's usually long and painful because the error codes are so vague. Another factor in debugging is that people troubleshooting TLS in the enterprise are typically not the same l

[TLS] draft-green-tls-static-dh-in-tls13-01

2017-07-11 Thread Steve Fenter
Proxies in the Data Center There are a number of reasons that inline proxies are not a scalable solution for monitoring communications in enterprise environments. -- cost -- production risk -- latency Here are some specific examples of where the use of proxies for monitoring communications

Re: [TLS] draft-green-tls-static-dh-in-tls13-01

2017-07-11 Thread Steve Fenter
> On Jul 11, 2017, at 2:15 PM, Stephen Farrell > wrote: > > > To add to Ted's clarification requests: > >> On 11/07/17 19:39, Steve Fenter wrote: >> Network security monitoring is not just monitoring traffic that >> results from communications with

Re: [TLS] Publication of draft-rhrd-tls-tls13-visibility-00

2017-10-22 Thread Steve Fenter
The main problem with not addressing the TLS visibility issue now is that no one knows when a vulnerability will be discovered in TLS 1.2 that forces enterprises to upgrade to TLS 1.3. We've had guarantees that TLS 1.2 and the RSA key exchange are going to be fine for 5 to 10 years, but nobody k

Re: [TLS] Publication of draft-rhrd-tls-tls13-visibility-00

2017-10-22 Thread Steve Fenter
I know of a number of large enterprises in verticals including financial, health care, retail, and government, across multiple countries, who are using packet payload inspection within their data centers. Most of these enterprises are reluctant to step forward in a public forum and reveal their