Re: [TLS] Transport Issues in DTLS 1.3

2021-03-30 Thread Mark Allman
> The strawman in my DISCUSS was that bursts of <= 2 packets could > be more aggressive; that's a negotiable number, and the de jure > TCP 4*MSS initial window, for example, is one I can easily be > persuaded of. Well. On the standards track you're correct (RFC 3390 & 5681). However, RFC 6928 s

Re: [TLS] Transport Issues in DTLS 1.3

2021-04-01 Thread Mark Allman
Folks- I am appending what I sent Martin & Gorry this morning. I looked quite quickly as Martin was looking for quick input. I am happy to iterate if things aren't all that understandable. allman [Quick hit.] I agree with Martin's DISCUSS and Gorry's notes. A couple more things here ... >

Re: [TLS] Transport Issues in DTLS 1.3

2021-04-01 Thread Mark Allman
Hi Ekr! > This means that we have rather more latitude in terms of how > aggressively we retransmit because it only applies to a small > fraction of the traffic. (Strikes me as a bit of a weird formulation.) > Firefox uses 50ms and AIUI Chrome > uses a value derived from the ICE handshake (whic