Re: [TLS] [Cfrg] 3DES diediedie

2016-08-31 Thread Hilarie Orman
> From: Derek Atkins > Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 10:17:25 -0400 > "Steven M. Bellovin" writes: > > Yes. To a large extent, the "IoT devices are too puny for real > > crypto" is a hangover from several years ago. It was once true; for > > the most part, it isn't today, but people haven't flu

Re: [TLS] [Cfrg] 3DES diediedie

2016-08-31 Thread Hilarie Orman
> From: Brian Sniffen > >> From: Derek Atkins > >> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 10:17:25 -0400 > > > >> "Steven M. Bellovin" writes: > > > >> > Yes. To a large extent, the "IoT devices are too puny for real > >> > crypto" is a hangover from several years ago. It was once true; for > >>

Re: [TLS] [Cfrg] 3DES diediedie

2016-09-01 Thread Hilarie Orman
joac...@secworks.se writes: > Aloha! Aloha auinala. > Hilarie Orman wrote: > > An ARM is far too much hardware to throw at "read sensor/munge > > data/send data". > No, they are not. The Cortex M0+ is aimed at these kinds of very simple > systems th

Re: [TLS] [Cfrg] 3DES diediedie

2016-09-05 Thread Hilarie Orman
> On 31 August 2016 at 20:48, Hilarie Orman wrote: > > > From: Brian Sniffen > > > > > >> From: Derek Atkins > > > >> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 10:17:25 -0400 > > > > > > > >> "Steven M. Bellovin&quo