Re: [TLS] ALPS and TLS 1.3 half-RTT data

2020-12-08 Thread Cory Benfield
On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 at 21:56, David Benjamin wrote: > > Hi TLS and HTTP friends, > > At the last HTTPWG interim, there was a question of why one would want > something like ALPS (draft-vvv-tls-alps) for HTTP SETTINGS > (draft-vvv-httpbis-alps) over TLS 1.3 half-RTT data. I know we've also had >

Re: [TLS] ALPS and TLS 1.3 half-RTT data

2020-12-16 Thread Cory Benfield
d idea, I think it's a good one! It clearly brings benefits for protocols that can require its presence. If we want to mint a new ALPN token for HTTP/2 that also mandates ALPS support I'm open to that, but frankly without it I don't see that ALPS helps us much for HTTP/2. >

Re: [TLS] ALPS and TLS 1.3 half-RTT data

2020-12-18 Thread Cory Benfield
On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 at 10:16, Cory Benfield wrote: > > On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 at 03:44, Victor Vasiliev wrote: > > > > Hi Cory, > > > > I am not sure there is a big difference between ALPN and ALPS in that > > regard. ALPS is (or at least can be implemented

Re: [TLS] ALPS and TLS 1.3 half-RTT data

2021-02-01 Thread Cory Benfield
On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 at 23:38, David Benjamin wrote: > > Hi all, > > > Thanks all for the feedback. I’ve tried to address it below, but there's a > lot of text, so please let me know if I’ve missed or misunderstood any of > your points. > > > Cory commented on SETTINGS_[HQ]PACK_ENABLE_STATIC_TABL

Re: [TLS] ALPS and TLS 1.3 half-RTT data

2021-02-01 Thread Cory Benfield
hat we can accurately assess whether ALPS is the right solution for them. ALPS is a good solution to some real problems. I want to make sure I understand what problems it's solving in H2, so I can try to judge whether I think it's a good solution for _those_ problems. On Mon, 1 Feb

Re: [TLS] ALPS and TLS 1.3 half-RTT data

2021-02-03 Thread Cory Benfield
On Mon, 1 Feb 2021 at 19:49, David Benjamin wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 8:46 AM Cory Benfield wrote: >> >> On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 at 23:38, David Benjamin wrote: >> > To clarify, are you unconvinced that ALPS is easier than leaving H2 alone, >> > or t