[TLS] Re: 2nd Working Group Last Call for The SSLKEYLOGFILE Formatfor TLS

2025-02-21 Thread Andrei Popov
I agree with Stephen and Tomas on this one. Additionally, in my opinion, this WG should not have published any SSLKEYLOGFILE documents, because they effectively standardize a backdoor. It is understood that there is a need for debugging, and it is understood that certain SW vendors want to agre

[TLS] Re: 2nd Working Group Last Call for The SSLKEYLOGFILE Format for TLS

2025-02-21 Thread David Adrian
I support publication. On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 10:06 AM Salz, Rich wrote: > No issues with publication nor with the content. > > ___ > TLS mailing list -- tls@ietf.org > To unsubscribe send an email to tls-le...@ietf.org > _

[TLS] Re: 2nd Working Group Last Call for The SSLKEYLOGFILE Formatfor TLS

2025-02-21 Thread Christian Huitema
I also agree. I understand that according to the draft, the SSL backdoor feature should only be present in debugging builds, but I am concerned there will be a big pressure to have it enabled in production builds as well. Consider the support line call, "I cannot access https://example.com/";.

[TLS] Re: 2nd Working Group Last Call for The SSLKEYLOGFILE Formatfor TLS

2025-02-21 Thread Muhammad Usama Sardar
On 20.02.25 13:36, Alicja Kario wrote: if you can't trust the system you're running an application on, you *definitely* can't trust any network connections from it It depends on how you define "system" here. If it is the hardware, sure you need to trust it in any case. If it is some parts of so

[TLS] Re: 2nd Working Group Last Call for The SSLKEYLOGFILE Formatfor TLS

2025-02-21 Thread Bellebaum, Thomas
> I disagree with this because if an attacker could write to the environment > variable used by the program or is able to side-load a library and capture > outbound packets, it is very likely that they already have privileged > access to the machine. I am questioning the threat model. Just like Pe

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[TLS] Re: 2nd Working Group Last Call for The SSLKEYLOGFILE Format for TLS

2025-02-21 Thread Stephen Farrell
On 21/02/2025 23:44, Martin Thomson wrote: I realize that this won't change your mind Stephen, but... Indeed, it doesn't change my view. But it is an improvement, so thanks, S. OpenPGP_signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ TLS

[TLS] Re: 2nd Working Group Last Call for The SSLKEYLOGFILE Format for TLS

2025-02-21 Thread Martin Thomson
I realize that this won't change your mind Stephen, but... On Sun, Feb 9, 2025, at 10:12, Stephen Farrell wrote: > Less importantly, but still substantively, the draft does not, > but should, recommend that this feature only be available via > conditional compilation (where available) and not be p