[TLS] Re: Last Call: (TLS 1.2 is in Feature Freeze) to Informational RFC

2024-12-24 Thread Salz, Rich
The codepoint has already been registered, 26 in the https://www.iana.org/assignments/tls-extensiontype-values/tls-extensiontype-values.xhtml If you proceed with Peter’s draft, he might need to tweak the wording to say he got in before the barn door closed :) _

[TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: PQ Cipher Suite I-Ds: adopt or not?

2024-12-24 Thread Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
I agree that ecdhe-mlkem should advance now. At the same time, “pure” mlkem should advance - because there’s no way the main “contentious point” of “hybrid vs pure” would be resolved. —Regards,UriSecure Resilient Systems and TechnologiesMIT Lincoln LaboratoryOn Dec 23, 2024, at 16:29, Rob Sayre wr

[TLS] Fwd: Last Call: (TLS 1.2 is in Feature Freeze) to Informational RFC

2024-12-24 Thread Eliot Lear
Rich, Keep in mind, draft-gutmann-tls-lts is under consideration as an independent submission right now.  If it's not the intent of the IETF to create a conflict with regard to that draft, then my suggestion is a statement in Section 1 along the following lines: “The policy specified in this

[TLS] Re: Fwd: Last Call: (TLS 1.2 is in Feature Freeze) to Informational RFC

2024-12-24 Thread Eric Rescorla
On Tue, Dec 24, 2024 at 12:16 AM Eliot Lear wrote: > Rich, > > Keep in mind, draft-gutmann-tls-lts is under consideration as an > independent submission right now. If it's not the intent of the IETF to > create a conflict with regard to that draft, then my suggestion is a > statement in Section

[TLS] Re: PQ Cipher Suite I-Ds: adopt or not?

2024-12-24 Thread Eric Rescorla
I think we should do an adoption call for: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tls-hybrid-design/ https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-connolly-tls-mlkem-key-agreement/ Key establishment is the most urgent need and I think the WG has a clear appreciation of the implication of adopting th

[TLS] Re: PQ Cipher Suite I-Ds: adopt or not?

2024-12-24 Thread Eric Rescorla
On Tue, Dec 24, 2024 at 10:55 AM Eric Rescorla wrote: > I think we should do an adoption call for: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tls-hybrid-design/ > Oops. I meant: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-kwiatkowski-tls-ecdhe-mlkem/ > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-conn

[TLS] Re: PQ Cipher Suite I-Ds: adopt or not?

2024-12-24 Thread Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer)
I would humbly disagree. I believe this working group has enough bandwidth to handle a couple of postquantum drafts (along with all the other drafts the WG is working on). I believe that this is especially true because we pretty much agree on the contents – what we have disagreements about is