[TLS] Re: draft-connolly-tls-mlkem-key-agreement

2024-12-14 Thread Loganaden Velvindron
On Sat, 14 Dec 2024 at 12:00, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 08:24:24PM -0800, Joseph Salowey wrote: > > > You continue to violate list policy with unprofessional commentary on other > > participants' motivations and repeatedly raising points that are out of > > scope. Please

[TLS] Weekly github digest (TLS Working Group Drafts)

2024-12-14 Thread Repository Activity Summary Bot
Pull requests - * tlswg/sslkeylogfile (+0/-2/đź’¬1) 1 pull requests received 1 new comments: - #17 ECH extensions added to the main SSLKEYLOGFILE spec (1 by yaroslavros) https://github.com/tlswg/sslkeylogfile/pull/17 2 pull requests merged: - ECH extensions added to the mai

[TLS] Re: draft-connolly-tls-mlkem-key-agreement

2024-12-14 Thread Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
D. J. Bernstein wrote: > More recently, NSA's Dickie George is on video claiming that NSA generated > the Dual EC points randomly and that Dual EC is secure. Do you have a link to the video? Such a comment is surprising as it is a very bad PR strategy. “No comment” is a far better strategy. T

[TLS] Re: draft-connolly-tls-mlkem-key-agreement

2024-12-14 Thread John Mattsson
I would also be against a temporarily ban at this point, but hopefully the warning will help reduce unprofessional commentary and personal attacks in the future. Commentaries on other participants' motivations should not be forbidden in general, and I don't think they are according to any IETF p

[TLS] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tls-rfc9147bis-00.txt

2024-12-14 Thread internet-drafts
Internet-Draft draft-ietf-tls-rfc9147bis-00.txt is now available. It is a work item of the Transport Layer Security (TLS) WG of the IETF. Title: The Datagram Transport Layer Security (DTLS) Protocol Version 1.3 Authors: Eric Rescorla Hannes Tschofenig Nagendra Modad

[TLS] Re: draft-connolly-tls-mlkem-key-agreement

2024-12-14 Thread John Mattsson
D. J. Bernstein wrote: > More recently, NSA's Dickie George is on video claiming that NSA generated > the Dual EC points randomly and that Dual EC is secure. Do you have a link to the video? Such a comment is surprising as it is a very bad PR strategy. “No comment” is a far better strategy. The

[TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: draft-connolly-tls-mlkem-key-agreement

2024-12-14 Thread Stephen Farrell
Hiya, On 15/12/2024 00:07, Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL wrote: Those who agree with BSI – let them use Hybrid KEM, as they have their reasons. Those who agree with NSA – let them use pure ML-KEM, as they have their reasons FWIW, my opinion is that the IETF and the TLS WG ought (try) develo

[TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: draft-connolly-tls-mlkem-key-agreement

2024-12-14 Thread Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
. . . however forceful, or insistent on being heard, Dan may be at times, history has shown that he is often enough ultimately proved right, years or decades later. An arguable point. However "inconvenient", IMHO his voice should not be suppressed. Of course. However, there must be a limit

[TLS] Re: [EXT] Re: draft-connolly-tls-mlkem-key-agreement

2024-12-14 Thread Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
Stephen, I don’t think attempting to develop consensus in this case would be either useful or productive. It is obvious that pure PQ KEMs are the future, when CRQC becomes “more” real. Some respected cryptographers are convinced that it is the optimal solution for now as well. Some other resp