[TLS] Design Rational for Key Exporter

2023-11-29 Thread Tschofenig, Hannes
Hi all, I was wondering why the design of the key exporter is such that it is based on the early_exporter_master_secret or the exporter_master_secret and no new key export is triggered at a later point in time, for example when a key update is performed. RFC 5705, which is used as a basis for t

Re: [TLS] Early IANA Allocations for draft-ietf-tls-dtls-rrc

2023-11-29 Thread Sean Turner
IANA has made the assignments: 1. Content Type: https://www.iana.org/assignments/tls-parameters/tls-parameters.xhtml#tls-parameters-5 2. Extension: https://www.iana.org/assignments/tls-extensiontype-values/tls-extensiontype-values.xhtml#tls-extensiontype-values-1 spt > On Nov 24, 2023, at 11:

[TLS] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tls-8773bis-00.txt

2023-11-29 Thread internet-drafts
Internet-Draft draft-ietf-tls-8773bis-00.txt is now available. It is a work item of the Transport Layer Security (TLS) WG of the IETF. Title: TLS 1.3 Extension for Certificate-based Authentication with an External Pre-Shared Key Author: Russ Housley Name:draft-ietf-tls-8773bis-00.

Re: [TLS] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tls-8773bis-00.txt

2023-11-29 Thread Russ Housley
People are implementing RFC 8773, so I would like to advance this to the standards track. In addition, this fixes the only errata that was posted against RFC 8773. Russ > On Nov 29, 2023, at 10:46 AM, internet-dra...@ietf.org wrote: > > Internet-Draft draft-ietf-tls-8773bis-00.txt is now ava

[TLS] Call to Move RFC 8773 from Experimental to Standards Track

2023-11-29 Thread Joseph Salowey
RFC 8773 (TLS 1.3 Extension for Certificate-Based Authentication with an External Pre-Shared Key) was originally published as experimental due to lack of implementations. As part of implementation work for the EMU workitem draft-ietf-emu-bootstrapped-tls which uses RFC 8773 there is ongoing impleme

Re: [TLS] Call to Move RFC 8773 from Experimental to Standards Track

2023-11-29 Thread Ira McDonald
Hi, Approve. Cheers, - Ira On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 10:51 AM Joseph Salowey wrote: > RFC 8773 (TLS 1.3 Extension for Certificate-Based Authentication with an > External Pre-Shared Key) was originally published as experimental due to > lack of implementations. As part of implementation work fo

Re: [TLS] Adoption call for Legacy RSASSA-PKCS1-v1_5 codepoints for TLS 1.3

2023-11-29 Thread Joseph Salowey
The adoption call for this draft has completed. There is sufficient interest in the draft and no objections. Authors, please submit this draft with the file name draft-tls-tls13-pkcs1-00.txt. Cheers, Joe On Mon, Nov 6, 2023 at 9:25 AM Joseph Salowey wrote: > At the TLS meeting at IETF 118 ther

Re: [TLS] Call to Move RFC 8773 from Experimental to Standards Track

2023-11-29 Thread Salz, Rich
* RFC 8773 (TLS 1.3 Extension for Certificate-Based Authentication with an External Pre-Shared Key) was originally published as experimental due to lack of implementations… Please indicate if you approve of or object to this transition to standards track status by December 15, 2023. I supp

Re: [TLS] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tls-8773bis-00.txt

2023-11-29 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 10:49:42AM -0500, Russ Housley wrote: > People are implementing RFC 8773, so I would like to advance this to > the standards track. In addition, this fixes the only errata that was > posted against RFC 8773. > I am somewhat confused by an apparent conflict between:

Re: [TLS] Design Rational for Key Exporter

2023-11-29 Thread David Benjamin
An unhelpful answer is that the key exporter interface was already set by prior versions of TLS and any TLS 1.3 key exporter needs to remain analogous. :-) A more helpful answer is that we cannot simultaneously believe that key update is a transparent feature of TLS, and that exporters are sensiti

Re: [TLS] Adoption call for Legacy RSASSA-PKCS1-v1_5 codepoints for TLS 1.3

2023-11-29 Thread David Benjamin
Done, although I'm not sure if I got all the metadata right. (How does one mark it as replacing the old one?) https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tls-tls13-pkcs1/ The GitHub is still under my account, but happy to move it to the TLSWG if preferred. (How would we go about doing that?) On Wed, N

Re: [TLS] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tls-8773bis-00.txt

2023-11-29 Thread Russ Housley
Viktor: > Are external PSKs applicable with resumption? No. The external PSK is only used on the initial handshake. Section 3.2 is pointing out that a Resumption PSK can also be used with a certificate. This is allowed under RFC 8446. Russ > On Nov 29, 2023, at 11:20 AM, Viktor Dukhovni wr

Re: [TLS] ECH: Changes to IANA consideration section

2023-11-29 Thread Stephen Farrell
Hiya, On 27/11/2023 14:35, Sean Turner wrote: Bumping this up in case anybody missed it. 'case it helps, I'm fine with the original mail you sent and any of "n/a" or "CH" being used rather than "-". If it helps, I've a very minuscule hint of a preference for "CH" so you can count me as agreei