[TLS] Post-Quantum TLS instantiations and synthetic benchmarks

2023-06-26 Thread Thom Wiggers
Hi TLS-wg and PQUIP-rg, Recently, I have computed the sizes and measured the performance of post-quantum TLS (both PQ key exchange and post-quantum authentication). In these experiments, I have examined combinations of Kyber, Dilithium, Falcon, SPHINCS+-(sf), HQC, and XMSS. The experiments include

Re: [TLS] Tricking TLS library into crypto primitives library

2023-06-26 Thread Hubert Kario
On Sunday, 25 June 2023 19:45:53 CEST, Soni L. wrote: Pure-python forbids using the cryptography package. Only python code and the python stdlib are allowed. The fact that TLS uses AES at all means it might be possible to trick the python ssl module to do arbitrary AES, with some effort. At t

Re: [TLS] Post-Quantum TLS instantiations and synthetic benchmarks

2023-06-26 Thread Martin Thomson
Hi Thom, I infer - though it is not explicit - that this experiment is based on the assumption that KEM-TLS is used, rather than a simpler integration. Can you comment on what you see as the relative impact of that difference? On Mon, Jun 26, 2023, at 21:48, Thom Wiggers wrote: > Hi TLS-wg and

Re: [TLS] [Pqc] Post-Quantum TLS instantiations and synthetic benchmarks

2023-06-26 Thread Sofia Celi
Hi Martin, I’m not the author of the note but, as far as I understand, it is not at all about KEMTLS. The experiments use NIST submitted PQC KEM algorithms for the key exchange and NIST submitted Signature algorithms for authentication. Not sure if I would call this a “simpler integration” (as